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How much do you know about Obama's "Uncle" Odinga in Kenya..

Travis why if Palin or whoever would of done this they woulda been disqualified? Still have yet to answer my question..
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Travis why if Palin or whoever would of done this they woulda been disqualified? Still have yet to answer my question..
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using tax dollars to campaign against a sitting friendly President.. and Odinga supported Sharia law to gain votes..

again my point is how I would guess 90% of the people voting have no clue about this..period.. but 90% know about Mitss grade school pranks
 
Travis007 said:
using tax dollars to campaign against a sitting friendly President.. and Odinga supported Sharia law to gain votes..

again my point is how I would guess 90% of the people voting have no clue about this..period.. but 90% know about Mitss grade school pranks
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He didn't campaign for him, as has been clearly shown.

PBS is more reliable than YouTube videos, don't cha' think?
 
Travis007 said:
using tax dollars to campaign against a sitting friendly President.. and Odinga supported Sharia law to gain votes..
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Wrong wrong wrong again Travis. Being fooled by lies, more lies and lies.

Obama did not "campaign for Odinga"
PolitiFact | Obama did not take sides in Kenya
"What we can confirm is that Obama has remained neutral in Kenyan politics, and did not support Odinga during his trip. Odinga attended some of Obama's events while Obama was in Kenya, and clearly wanted to associate himself with Obama, but there is no evidence to indicate that Obama "openly supported" Odinga."
"Obama: "One of the things we try to do is meet with all parties. I met President Kibaki, I met Uhuru Kenyatta, I was with Raila Odinga. We met the government, met the opposition and met other groups such as human rights activists. What I try to do is give a consistent message on what I think U.S.-Kenya relations should be, but not to suggest somehow that I think one party is better than the other. That's for the Kenyan people to decide."

Also, Obama's gave a high-profile speech the need for the country to move beyond corruption and tribal rivalries. This undercuts Corsi's theory that Obama was motivated by his Luo tribal heritage."



Obama also did not support Odinga with any money or any "taxpayer money".
"Just to be certain, we did an analysis of Federal Election Commission reports of disbursements from Obama's principal presidential campaign committee, Obama for America, during the 2008 election cycle. We searched for "Kenya," "Odinga" and "ODM," (the Orange Democratic Movement) the latter being Odinga's political party, and came up with no matches."

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-m.../chain-email/not-a-cent-from-unrelated-obama/
again my point is how I would guess 90% of the people voting have no clue about this..period.. but 90% know about Mitss grade school pranks
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Because its all lies based on no facts Travis!
 
Travis007 said:
using tax dollars to campaign against a sitting friendly President.. and Odinga supported Sharia law to gain votes..
again my point is how I would guess 90% of the people voting have no clue about this..period.. but 90% know about Mitss grade school pranks
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How did the born-again Anglican Odinga "support" sharia law?

What exactly did his support consist of?
 
Simon W. Moon said:
How did the born-again Anglican Odinga "support" sharia law?

What exactly did his support consist of?
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It appears he made a deal to allow sharia to gain votes..

again.. thsi thread is about " how much does a voter know about this connection"...
not that details of Odinga per se.
 
zstep18 said:
He didn't campaign for him, as has been clearly shown.

PBS is more reliable than YouTube videos, don't cha' think?
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Not exactly.. there are many reports he did campaign for him and Obamas word lend to that.. he was chastizing the current President in the speeches Obama gave.. pretty clear cut..
 
Travis007 said:
It appears he made a deal to allow sharia to gain votes..
again.. thsi thread is about " how much does a voter know about this connection"...
not that details of Odinga per se.
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So, are you a voter?
If so, then your knowledge seems to be pertinent to our discussion about Romney here.

And what was the deal Odinga made? And what does "allow sharia" mean? Do you have any access to primary sources? Of just fourth hand accounts from the blogosphere and t3h youtubes?
 
Travis007 said:
Not exactly.. there are many reports he did campaign for him and Obamas word lend to that.. he was chastizing the current President in the speeches Obama gave.. pretty clear cut..
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And the facts are Travis that he did not campaign for him.
 
Travis007 said:
Not exactly.. there are many reports he did campaign for him and Obamas word lend to that.. he was chastizing the current President in the speeches Obama gave.. pretty clear cut..
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There're many reports that 911 was engineered by the Bush admin.

I don't think that truth is subject to a vote.
ymmv
 
Travis007 said:
Not exactly.. there are many reports he did campaign for him and Obamas word lend to that.. he was chastizing the current President in the speeches Obama gave.. pretty clear cut..
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If there are many reports then show me some stuff other than YouTube videos that come from semi-respectable sources.

And how does Obama speaking out against the current President's corruption equal Obama campaigning for Odinga? If you read the PBS report, it says that people misinterpreted Obama's criticism of the current President as supporting Odinga.
 
zstep18 said:
And how does Obama speaking out against the current President's corruption equal Obama campaigning for Odinga? If you read the PBS report, it says that people misinterpreted Obama's criticism of the current President as supporting Odinga.
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Apparently, Odinga encouraged it for his own reasons.
Now, corsi and travis are encouraging it for their own reasons. The circle of life. Travis and Corsi are promoting Odinga by associating Odinga with Obama.

TRAVIS IS CAMPAIGNING FOR ODINGA!!
 
What travis is so desperately digging for here is he wants liberals to finally and once-and-for-all admit that there is liberal bias in the media.

Yes Travis... there is liberal bias in the media, get use to it and stop crying.
 
OnWisconsin said:
What travis is so desperately digging for here is he wants liberals to finally and once-and-for-all admit that there is liberal bias in the media.

Yes Travis... there is liberal bias in the media, get use to it and stop crying.
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well... you did hit the mark... that is part of the reason for this thread...

I ask how many as far % going to the poll have any idea if this Odinga Obama connection..period?nothing "desperate" here.. a simple question..I find it amazing that this is not an issue period... I thought Trump may have had this as his announcement

would you agree if this was Mitt how huge this would be??? forget about huge ..Mitt would never have even been the candidate ...
 
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Simon W. Moon said:
There're many reports that 911 was engineered by the Bush admin.

I don't think that truth is subject to a vote.
ymmv
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thats a ridiculous analogy... we see the picture here..this is fact.. the fact is Obama campaigned for Odinga.. against a sitting President..

and are you sure you really are a conservative? there are "No reports" that GWB was behind 9/11.. there is loose change dylan avery michael moore enemy loving nonsense... thats not a "report"..here we have really nothing to debate on Odinga and Obama.. the issue is why is this never talked about.. why is that 90% of people voting unaware of this?..
 
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Travis007 said:
well... you did hit the mark... that is part of the reason for this thread...

I ask how many as far % going to the poll have any idea if this Odinga Obama connection..period?nothing "desperate" here.. a simple question..I find it amazing that this is not an issue period... I thought Trump may have had this as his announcement

would you agree if this was Mitt how huge this would be??? forget about huge ..Mitt would never have even been the candidate ...
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Mitt should have never been the candidate in the first place. Your side had a bunch of half-ass choices to make and you honestly selected the least inspiring one.

I can't say what it would have meant for Mitt because he probably would have just denied it and took up some stance that made him look completely opposite of whatever it was that he was being accused of. He's a chameleon, always changing his colors to fit the situation.
 
Travis007 said:
thats a ridiculous analogy... we see the picture here..this is fact.. the fact is Obama campaigned for Odinga.. against a sitting President..
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Unless you can tell me what was aid etc, all I have are pictures of them together, some of the pictures have been digitally doctored to boot.
I have pictures of Rumsfeld with Saddam Husssein. Rumsfeld was campaigning for Hussein. It's a fact. I have a photo.

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and are you sure you really are a conservative? there are "No reports" that GWB was behind 9/11..
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I guess you're new to the interwebz. There's a whole section on this site alone devoted to various conspiracy theories. Among thos theories and among those posts are ones about GWB et al being behind 9-11.
the fact you're unaware of the parts of the truther movement which blame the GWB admin isn't really the same thing as those parts not existing.

The point being that just because there're lot's of people saying something it doesn't mean that something is true.
Therefore your comment offering the existence of multiple reports about the same things [oddly enough most of those reports have the same primary source afaict] as evidence pointing to the veracity of the claim is invalid. ymmv.

Travis007 said:
here we have really nothing to debate on Odinga and Obama.. the issue is why is this never talked about.. why is that 90% of people voting unaware of this?..
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The reason why it has gotten no traction is because it's made up bull**** that most people who examine it can see through.

That's your answer. You can like it or not. Either way, it's the home truth you're asking for.
 
Travis007 said:
Thats certainly not a fact...
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Please me provide me a semi-reputable source other than YouTube videos.

Obama did NOT campaign for Odinga. I gave you the PBS article which clearly addresses this and all you have given me is YouTube videos that seem to have been created by people with a lot of free time.
 
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Im curious..

Im shocked as we approach election again how this is never a subject..
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Is he running in this election perhaps? Has he been seen canvassing the doors to get people to vote for a distant cousin?

Or is it just again republicans trying to make this election into a circus by wanting to focus on things that are completely irrelevant for the election between BH Obama and M Romney.

Or should we focus on multi-wife having family members of Romney? Or try (which might not be all that difficult when one sees how many wives and children mormons tend to have) find a nutty/screwy family member of Romney?

Or report that Romney's son wanted to physically assault the president of the USA because he stood up or contradicted his daddy? Because that would say more about how Mitt Romney has raised his family than an uncle from Kenya.

But, I do not want to get the completely disrespectful behavior/comments of Romney's son into the election because he is not the person people have to vote for (or not for as I hope) just as much as this uncle should have no influence if people want to vote or not vote for Obama.
 
Simon W. Moon said:
Unless you can tell me what was aid etc, all I have are pictures of them together, some of the pictures have been digitally doctored to boot.
I have pictures of Rumsfeld with Saddam Husssein. Rumsfeld was campaigning for Hussein. It's a fact. I have a photo.

I guess you're new to the interwebz. There's a whole section on this site alone devoted to various conspiracy theories. Among thos theories and among those posts are ones about GWB et al being behind 9-11.
the fact you're unaware of the parts of the truther movement which blame the GWB admin isn't really the same thing as those parts not existing.

The point being that just because there're lot's of people saying something it doesn't mean that something is true.
Therefore your comment offering the existence of multiple reports about the same things [oddly enough most of those reports have the same primary source afaict] as evidence pointing to the veracity of the claim is invalid. ymmv.

The reason why it has gotten no traction is because it's made up bull**** that most people who examine it can see through.

That's your answer. You can like it or not. Either way, it's the home truth you're asking for.
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go with your signature...

do your own research....that its a valid topic steeped in truth is cool an all.. but again the issue is why is it not been fully talked through.. I heard more about Mitts tax returns that was a total non story..

how muich more fact you want..we have hundreds of real reports on something you are spinning as a UFO siighting.. needles to say your opinion is hardly the truth...
 
Peter King said:
Is he running in this election perhaps? Has he been seen canvassing the doors to get people to vote for a distant cousin?

Or is it just again republicans trying to make this election into a circus by wanting to focus on things that are completely irrelevant for the election between BH Obama and M Romney.

Or should we focus on multi-wife having family members of Romney? Or try (which might not be all that difficult when one sees how many wives and children mormons tend to have) find a nutty/screwy family member of Romney?

Or report that Romney's son wanted to physically assault the president of the USA because he stood up or contradicted his daddy? Because that would say more about how Mitt Romney has raised his family than an uncle from Kenya.

But, I do not want to get the completely disrespectful behavior/comments of Romney's son into the election because he is not the person people have to vote for (or not for as I hope) just as much as this uncle should have no influence if people want to vote or not vote for Obama.
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why dont you start your Obama loving nonsense with this simple point.. none of what you said is about Mitt, just his family ..this is about Obama... period..

but again if this was Palin it would have been story of the year..
 
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