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Debate score tally [W:82]

As I said in the "Who Won" Thread (click the arrow to see full explanation), this is how I'd score it


I dont think your too far off base with your opinion...but I would put it in simpler terms...2 debates to 1 for obama....The first debate always has the most impact and the most lasting impression and romney won the first one hands down...and that negates the advantage of losing the second two to obama...so a draw isnt an unreasonable opinion for the final analysis
 
The one thing you're not taking into consideration is that the first 2 debates were far more important than this last debate was. Foreign policy is about as meaningless an issue to the American people in this election, than it's been in decades. It's about the economy and that is what is going to determine who wins in 2 weeks.


I agree romney winning the first debate negates the obama winning the second two...the first has the most lasting impression and each debate will have less viewers than the last....and people who made their decision based on romneys performance in the first debate...IN MY OPINION are not going to change that decision based on the last two...for the most part.
 
Pay attention, or try :) as long as there is one marine, one GI, airmen or sailor in harms way...dont cut the budget a dime...as long as this country has troops sitting in germany and japan and korea doing nothing but KP and guard duty and pissing all that money down the tube....dont you cut a dime till every single troop is home and safe...
This isnt a party thing...seems everything to you is based on party...I have no party I dont have to grovel and kiss the ground before either of them..I make my own decisions and it has nothing to do with R or Ds

well good for you.
regurgitating Democratic party rhetoric and union propaganda makes it pretty hard to believe you are independent, but whatever.. I don't care if you are or not.

we can cut the defense budget by 1/3 and not put one single troop at risk.. or take anything away from that troop.
 
I guess I'd score them:

1. Romney 8 Obama 2

2. Romney 4 Obama 6

3. Romney 4 Obama 6

total: Romney 16 Obama 14

So a slight win for Romney overall, but in terms of electoral effect Romney's big win overwhelms Obama's slight wins.

Romney had a lot of huge slip up's that I've noticed, and Obama didn't. Against a strong debater with the same views he would've been crushed. He seemed to do well only because Obama did extremely poor. He came in with the exact same arguments on debate 2 and lost.

There's no way I'd score that as an 8, 6 is probably more appropriate even 7 would be a huge stretch. In short he only seemed strong because Obama was weak. Not because he had an new/good ideas.
 
I guess I'd score them:

1. Romney 8 Obama 2

2. Romney 4 Obama 6

3. Romney 4 Obama 6

total: Romney 16 Obama 14

So a slight win for Romney overall, but in terms of electoral effect Romney's big win overwhelms Obama's slight wins.

I'd say those are somewhat reasonable. I would perhaps quibble a bit, but I think it's a reasonable scoring summary.
 
As a note: They do still use bayonets...... Kind of made Obama sound like he had no clue what he was talking about.

He never said they have zero horses or bayonets now did he? He only said "we also have less horses and bayonets..."
 
well good for you.
regurgitating Democratic party rhetoric and union propaganda makes it pretty hard to believe you are independent, but whatever.. I don't care if you are or not.

we can cut the defense budget by 1/3 and not put one single troop at risk.. or take anything away from that troop.

Seems you cant grasp that whatever it is you "THINK" and whatever your "OPINION" is of what I am politically isnt important to me. You may find it hard to believe that im not a democrat or an independent...but I dont have any trouble believing your a far right wing flamer :) who attempts to impress that you "KNOW" alot more than you do...but hey who am I to question your "OPINION" lol
 
I guess I'd score them:

1. Romney 8 Obama 2

2. Romney 4 Obama 6

3. Romney 4 Obama 6

total: Romney 16 Obama 14

So a slight win for Romney overall, but in terms of electoral effect Romney's big win overwhelms Obama's slight wins.

I cannot believe you posted that (BUT traditionally the first debate is the game changer if there is to be one.)
 
I think Romney is far more knowledgeable on the economy than Obama ( Obama is far more idealistic)... I don't think either one is a military scholar, but i'm sure they both know our soldiers kill things with mighty black bang sticks...which is about as far as their military knowledge extends.

I'm sure 4 years of military briefings being the Commander in Chief haven't taught Obama anything... you're probably right.. *cough* bull****...
 
Seems you cant grasp that whatever it is you "THINK" and whatever your "OPINION" is of what I am politically isnt important to me. You may find it hard to believe that im not a democrat or an independent...but I dont have any trouble believing your a far right wing flamer :) who attempts to impress that you "KNOW" alot more than you do...but hey who am I to question your "OPINION" lol

I have no doubt you believe i'm a "far right flamer"
I also have no doubt that attempting to correct the willfully ignorant is an exercise in futility.
 
Here's my final scores for all 3 debates:

Obama/Romney

Debate 1: 3 6
Debate 2: 7 5
Debate 3: 7 4

Total: 17 15

Obama lead into the debates, I expect him to lead by the same margin heading out of the debates if not gain a bigger lead.

I don't know for sure if your last score is accurate since I haven't watched the last debate yet, but the first debate is the only one that really matters a whole lot in the election. The public's had four years of an Obama presidency and a year before that of his campaigning. Most people already had a strong opinion on Obama. The first debate was kind of like a first impression for Romney to people who've only just started following this campaign, and he pretty much aced it. He proved himself to be a legitimate choice to a lot of people. Most people already have strong opinions one way or another on Obama and no matter how good he does in a debate it won't move the needle much.
 
well good for you.
regurgitating Democratic party rhetoric and union propaganda makes it pretty hard to believe you are independent, but whatever.. I don't care if you are or not.

we can cut the defense budget by 1/3 and not put one single troop at risk.. or take anything away from that troop.

Oh wait...now your going to try and impress me that your a budget expert and have all the numbers worked out in stone...LMAO, How do you know that ?...crystal ball or maybe you got that from a Koch Brothers paid teaparty political flyer ?
 
I'm sure 4 years of military briefings being the Commander in Chief haven't taught Obama anything... you're probably right.. *cough* bull****...


oh, i'm sure he has learned a thing or 2.. like who to call for answers about the military... i'm also sure Romney would be in the exact position Obama was in on his first day.
 
Oh wait...now your going to try and impress me that your a budget expert and have all the numbers worked out in stone...LMAO, How do you know that ?...crystal ball or maybe you got that from a Koch Brothers paid teaparty political flyer ?

nah, I actually tore the defense budget apart about 6 years ago in order to formulate my plan for cuts... it took about 3 months for me to do it... it was kinda fun.

unlike you, i'm not into regurgitation of propaganda.. or idiocy.
 
I have no doubt you believe i'm a "far right flamer"
I also have no doubt that attempting to correct the willfully ignorant is an exercise in futility.

True, but im willing to spend the time to laugh and try to correct your willing ignorance no matter how futile it is :) I know Grover Norquist has you convinced that the teaparty is going to give you this HUGE TAX CUT...because yanno your rich and pay waaay to much and you dont get a DIME from the govt because you have to much integrity to take a military pension or social security or medicare....you dont need it anyway your loaded :)
Btw you feel like your winning yet...roflmao
 
True, but im willing to spend the time to laugh and try to correct your willing ignorance no matter how futile it is :) I know Grover Norquist has you convinced that the teaparty is going to give you this HUGE TAX CUT...because yanno your rich and pay waaay to much and you dont get a DIME from the govt because you have to much integrity to take a military pension or social security or medicare....you dont need it anyway your loaded :)
Btw you feel like your winning yet...roflmao

the only way to win against stupidity is to not address it... with that in mind, i'm obviously losing.

you were correct on some things though.... wrong on the Grover Norquist barb, and i'm not a Tea Partier...but ok the rest.
yes, i'm successful.. yes I forgo entitlements I have earned... but that's ok, i don't mind you being jealous of the position i'm in... i would be too, if'n i was in your position.
 
He never said they have zero horses or bayonets now did he? He only said "we also have less horses and bayonets..."

lolz fact checker: Mostly True. ;)
 
the only way to win against stupidity is to not address it... with that in mind, i'm obviously losing.

you were correct on some things though.... wrong on the Grover Norquist barb, and i'm not a Tea Partier...but ok the rest.
yes, i'm successful.. yes I forgo entitlements I have earned... but that's ok, i don't mind you being jealous of the position i'm in... i would be too, if'n i was in your position.

Yes you are losing but as the saying goes stupid is as stupid does, I think your used to losing...<grin> Im not going to bother to address most of your stuff its just silly opinionated hogwash and your weak attempt at getting personal with me. I have no reason to be jealous of you..I may very well be able to bury you in cash...ya never know :) oh but I do think the only entitlement you passed on is winning pissing contests that you started...you must think that all Non right wing flamers are naive :) how you feel your making out here thrilla :) dont worry I wont hit the report button...thats for like yanno those kind of people..lol
 
Yes you are losing but as the saying goes stupid is as stupid does, I think your used to losing...<grin> Im not going to bother to address most of your stuff its just silly opinionated hogwash and your weak attempt at getting personal with me. I have no reason to be jealous of you..I may very well be able to bury you in cash...ya never know :) oh but I do think the only entitlement you passed on is winning pissing contests that you started...you must think that all Non right wing flamers are naive :) how you feel your making out here thrilla :) dont worry I wont hit the report button...thats for like yanno those kind of people..lol

i'm sure you had something to say in there in all those words... but I just can't decipher it.

feel free to report anything you feel is a violation of the rules, that's what a person of integrity would do...
 
i'm sure you had something to say in there in all those words... but I just can't decipher it.

feel free to report anything you feel is a violation of the rules, that's what a person of integrity would do...

Integrity huh...lol...Considering your to be expected distorted definition of integrity Im quite proud not to have any lol....your still not winning any cigars here thrilla, I find that surprising considering how vastly knowledgeable and how much sharper you are than most all the other posters on here, but its ok win or lose....I enjoy talking to you :) so tell me how much money do you have I want to be even more jealous of you then I already am...You're my hero for not taking your military pension and social security and medicare...that is if I believed you..lmaorofl
 
Integrity huh...lol...Considering your to be expected distorted definition of integrity Im quite proud not to have any lol....your still not winning any cigars here thrilla, I find that surprising considering how vastly knowledgeable and how much sharper you are than most all the other posters on here, but its ok win or lose....I enjoy talking to you :) so tell me how much money do you have I want to be even more jealous of you then I already am...You're my hero for not taking your military pension and social security and medicare...that is if I believed you..lmaorofl

I have my own cigars, thanks

tons of folks around here are more knowledgeable and smarter than I.. and with lots and lots of hard work, you may yet join their ranks one day.:)

for as often as you moan and whine about evil rich people, you'd think you would be happy with me not sucking up those resources.... I guess you save your admiration for those whom actually do suck the public teat. <shrug>.. it's ok man, everyone has to have a role model to admire.
 
I have my own cigars, thanks

tons of folks around here are more knowledgeable and smarter than I.. and with lots and lots of hard work, you may yet join their ranks one day.:)

for as often as you moan and whine about evil rich people, you'd think you would be happy with me not sucking up those resources.... I guess you save your admiration for those whom actually do suck the public teat. <shrug>.. it's ok man, everyone has to have a role model to admire.

Yup im sucking on the teat, im broke and I get arrested alot of for being drunk Lol...and stop your trying to be like turtledude and your falling flat on your face...hes geniune about what he believes and he really is rich and successful...now you lmao...you dont take your military pension...you tell the govt to keep it LMAO...and you dont take social security you send the check back every month and you dont use medicare because YOU HAVE INTEGRITY and your REALLY REALLY REALLY RICH, yes I believe you....oh man thank you thrilla...seriously this is the most fun ive had on this forum in a long time...
 
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