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Obama in a Bubble: No Record of Intel Briefings for Obama Week Before Embassy Attacks

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Our security is Job #1.
But not for our Empty Chair(man) Obama.

Is it any wonder they've been doing their best Slim Shady to cover Obama's ass?
They probably thought this would just blow over. And what does that say?

[h=2]According to the White House calendar, there is no public record of President Barack Obama attending his daily intelligence briefing--known as the Presidential Daily Brief (PDB)--in the week leading up to the attacks on the U.S. embassy in Cairo and the murder of U.S. Libyan Ambassador Chris Stevens and three American members of his staff:[/h] 9/6/2012- President's Schedule - September 6, 2012 | The White House
9/7/2012- President's Schedule - September 7, 2012 | The White House
9/8/2012- President's Schedule - September 8, 2012 | The White House
9/9/2012- President's Schedule - September 9, 2012 | The White House
9/10/2012- President's Schedule - September 10, 2012 | The White House
9/11/2012- President's Schedule - September 11, 2012 | The White House
The last time prior to the slayings that the White House calendar publicly confirms Mr. Obama attending his daily intelligence briefing was September 5[SUP]th[/SUP]. (The White House did not provide an official public calendar for September 8-10.) Mr. Obama and Vice President Joe Biden met with Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta at 5:00 p.m. yesterday.


According to a recent study by the Government Accountability Institute, Mr. Obama has only attended 43.8 percent of his Presidential Daily Briefs in the first 1,225 days of his Administration.
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Sen McCain is now involved in looking into this. This is not going away, and will continue even after the election.
 
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American said:
Sen McCain is now involved in looking into this. This is not going away, and will continue even after the election.
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The Libs have just been overactive in their defense of Obama's concern for national security.
Oh! There has been no response!
Silence is Golden.

Shhhhhhhhhhhhh until election day.
Not.
 
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When you've been in full campaign mode for the last 4 years, and then squeeze in golf twice a week, and vacation the rest of the time. He has no time to meet with his jobs console or make time for an intelligence briefing. No wonder this country is in such shambles.
 
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Born Free said:
When you've been in full campaign mode for the last 4 years, and then squeeze in golf twice a week, and vacation the rest of the time. He has no time to meet with his jobs console or make time for an intelligence briefing. No wonder this country is in such shambles.
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What really pisses me off is all the bad press he has given the great game of golf.
 
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zimmer said:
What really pisses me off is all the bad press he has given the great game of golf.
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"you ain't no tiger, Barry"
 
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Our smartest President ever does not need no stinkin' intel briefing.

“The President is among the most sophisticated consumers of intelligence on the planet. He receives and reads his [Presidential Daily Brief] every day, and most days when he’s at the White House receives a briefing in person.” ---National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor in Politico
Obama's Aides Say Obama "Among The Most Sophisticated Consumers Of Intelligence On The Planet" > New English Review
 
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another attempt at making something out of nothing.

The idea that obama needs to meet face to face with the guy who is reponsible for the PDB is plain stupid. Obama can read. There is continuity of narrative in the reports. new items or issues are clearly stated. Any questions he might have can easily be forwarded to the appropriate people with this nifty little invention called a telephone! or secure conference call.

Amazingly dumb attempt, demonstrating a total lack of knowledge about how the senior executive does and should spend his time. But keep it up boys. It certainly meets your exepectations of who Obama is regardless of how inane this story is.
 
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Another fake controversy bites the dust.

How many security briefings did Reagan attend in eight years? Exactly ZERO.
 
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zimmer said:
Our security is Job #1.
But not for our Empty Chair(man) Obama.

Is it any wonder they've been doing their best Slim Shady to cover Obama's ass?
They probably thought this would just blow over. And what does that say?
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Great, going over this issue again, the earlier 21 page thread (or something close to that) must not have been enough ;).

Not having a daily intelligence briefing does not mean that the president did not get all the relevant information through other information sources like the written version or updates from the relevant people in his administration.
 
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When campaignin' and community organizin' is the ONLY thing you're good at, you tend to let that sort of thing consume all your time. It's the priorities.
 
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Peter King said:
Great, going over this issue again, the earlier 21 page thread (or something close to that) must not have been enough ;).

Not having a daily intelligence briefing does not mean that the president did not get all the relevant information through other information sources like the written version or updates from the relevant people in his administration.
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That is true, so we will never know... But there is more to a briefing than just words. Humans impart signals words can never capture and add value in other ways that a brief leaves out for brevity sake.

We are talking National Security... and Obama's failing to do this, especially leading up to 911 reveals much.

(21-pages... 10 threads... so what? National security is a vital issue. We are electing a President, not the mayor of Utrecht).
 
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Yeah, Obama sure does suck. Can't believe he let an ambassador get killed on his watch. If only his record of defending America was as good as his predecessor. When it comes to paying attention to intelligence briefings, Bush sure did set the bar rather high. Not just anyone could follow up that proud legacy, but Romney certainly seems to be up to the challenge.
 
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ChunkySalsa said:
Yeah, Obama sure does suck. Can't believe he let an ambassador get killed on his watch. If only his record of defending America was as good as his predecessor. When it comes to paying attention to intelligence briefings, Bush sure did set the bar rather high. Not just anyone could follow up that proud legacy, but Romney certainly seems to be up to the challenge.
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Sarcasm - to be funny - must contain some element of truth.

"Sarcasm" based on a false premise is just that - a piece of un-funny, irrelevant, false propaganda. :ho-hum:

Better luck next time.
 
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zimmer said:
Our security is Job #1.
But not for our Empty Chair(man) Obama.

Is it any wonder they've been doing their best Slim Shady to cover Obama's ass?
They probably thought this would just blow over. And what does that say?
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National security ring a bell with you? Unlike the republican house that feels it has the legal right to out CIA headquarters, the President takes security far more seriously, as well as the lives of those who are in the CIA.
 
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Rokkitsci said:
Sarcasm - to be funny - must contain some element of truth.

"Sarcasm" based on a false premise is just that - a piece of un-funny, irrelevant, false propaganda. :ho-hum:

Better luck next time.
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It alright that it sailed past you, Rok, you weren't the target audience anyway. I wasn't expecting anyone with scleras dyed red from gallons of conservative Kool-Aid to appreciate it; seeing the world with a dark red tinge makes for a deeply skewed perspective on the truth. To appreciated it, you'd have to acknowledge that Obama hasn't totally ****ed up everything he's ever touched and that 9/11 happened on Bush's watch.
 
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zimmer said:
That is true, so we will never know... But there is more to a briefing than just words. Humans impart signals words can never capture and add value in other ways that a brief leaves out for brevity sake.

We are talking National Security... and Obama's failing to do this, especially leading up to 911 reveals much.

(21-pages... 10 threads... so what? National security is a vital issue. We are electing a President, not the mayor of Utrecht).
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And as was written in that thread, Obama is not the first President to not sit in on every intelligence briefing. And IMHO, it is not only the act of being updated about security issues but it is also what one does and the President has done plenty on that front.

Maybe Bush did not like just being informed in written part and instead wanted to be told, who knows but Obama was not the first president and not the last president to miss these kinds of briefings.

Also, in case you missed it, there is something like a presidential election campaign and that takes a lot of time of all involved who are campaigning.
 
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Yep, another outrage. If the president does not go to the security meeting that day, the meeting moves, not the presidnet. At least that is how it works in the field down to Lt level. I would imagine there is a continous ongoing security breifing going on as the information materailizes. One would have to have a very simplistic world view to think the POTUS has to go to a room with large table with power point capabilities to recive his security breifing. Funny/sad really.
Jonsa said:
another attempt at making something out of nothing.

The idea that obama needs to meet face to face with the guy who is reponsible for the PDB is plain stupid. Obama can read. There is continuity of narrative in the reports. new items or issues are clearly stated. Any questions he might have can easily be forwarded to the appropriate people with this nifty little invention called a telephone! or secure conference call.

Amazingly dumb attempt, demonstrating a total lack of knowledge about how the senior executive does and should spend his time. But keep it up boys. It certainly meets your exepectations of who Obama is regardless of how inane this story is.
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Everyone has priorities and Obama has made getting re-elected his priority. What we are seeing is the result of elected and appointed political hacks who are not equipped to run the country and a campaign at the same time.
 
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AdamT said:
Another fake controversy bites the dust.

How many security briefings did Reagan attend in eight years? Exactly ZERO.
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None, really? You really should do research before you spew talking points, Adam.

Secret video briefings for President Reagan released – CNN Security Clearance - CNN.com Blogs

http://www.reaganfoundation.org/whdpdf/102081.pdf
Look @ his 10am meeting attendees

In fact, just go to this link and you can browse his daily schedule yourself. And you'll see how blatantly untrue your idiotic little post actually was.
http://www.reaganfoundation.org/sm.aspx?p=RR1003WD
 
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Peter King said:
Great, going over this issue again, the earlier 21 page thread (or something close to that) must not have been enough ;).

Not having a daily intelligence briefing does not mean that the president did not get all the relevant information through other information sources like the written version or updates from the relevant people in his administration.
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So then I revert back to what I said at the beginning:

1. He either didn't get intelligence because he neglected briefings, and it shows a blatant failure w/i the administration, or
2. He got the intelligence through other means (as you highlighted above), and it shows a blatant failure w/i the administration.

Foreign sources said they had intelligence of imminent attacks and the on-the-ground CIA team in Libya sent several briefings detailing the "high security risk" status and need for back up personnel. How did we not have that information in the president's hands?
 
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How does that demonstrate a failure within the administration? The view the POTUS has to go to a place and get info is very very simplistic and would actually be more concerning if it were true than if the POTUS did not show up. This is just another outrage of the day. Bet it is on Fox News.
 
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mak2 said:
How does that demonstrate a failure within the administration? The view the POTUS has to go to a place and get info is very very simplistic and would actually be more concerning if it were true than if the POTUS did not show up. This is just another outrage of the day. Bet it is on Fox News.
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That darn Fox News is why Obama is a failure. Yup.
 
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tessaesque said:
None, really? You really should do research before you spew talking points, Adam.

Secret video briefings for President Reagan released – CNN Security Clearance - CNN.com Blogs

http://www.reaganfoundation.org/whdpdf/102081.pdf
Look @ his 10am meeting attendees

In fact, just go to this link and you can browse his daily schedule yourself. And you'll see how blatantly untrue your idiotic little post actually was.
REAGANFOUNDATION.ORG | WHITE HOUSE DIARY
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Actually, YOU should do some better research before you respond. Fortunately an entire book has been written on the subject of presidential daily briefings. Here is the relevant paragraph about the briefings:

Thinking back over the eight years of the Reagan administration, the Agency’s briefing officer remembered only one or two occasions when the national security advisor took him into the Oval Office to brief the president directly. Unlike Carter, Reagan almost never wrote comments or questions on the PDB. On a day-to-day basis, therefore, the Agency’s knowledge of the president’s intelligence needs was limited. Such knowledge came only indi- rectly when Reagan’s interests were passed on by the national security advisor or conveyed by the president directly to the CIA director.
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https://www.cia.gov/library/center-...esident/pdfs/U- Chapter 5-Reagan and Bush.pdf
 
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