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    WTF? Tagg Romney owns electronic voting machines in Ohio

    Someone posted about this on Facebook. I didn't want to take it as true based on just that. I looked to see if the independent fact check sites Politifact and Factcheck have covered this issue. They haven't. So I googled it. I'll post the links I found at the end of my post. I did find news sources that reported that Tagg Romney, Mitt's son, had indeed purchased holdings in the company that makes the electronic voting machines that are to be used in Ohio for the presidential election. WTF? Can you say conflict of interest? I don't know much about Tagg Romney other than the fact that he's Mitt's son, but even if he's as honest as Abe Lincoln, how can this be acceptable? In an election, you should avoid even the perception of fraud. There's more. One of the articles talked about "sleepovers," which is when one of the technicians takes home an electronic voting machine and keeps it in his or her home while working on it. What??????????? That's not exactly avoiding the potential or perception of fraud.

    I actually took some computer programming classes in college. (gag) What possessed me to ... it's a long story. Maybe another post. Anyway, even I know how you can modify a simple algorithm. If it's counting a total and one total starts getting higher than the programmer thinks it should, a simple if-then statement subtracts a few from one and adds to the other, problem solved.

    My guess is some people will step in and defend this, but I can't fathom how. The simple notion that no one with an interest in the election's outcome should own ANY of the voting machines or employ ANY of the election workers to me seems un-rebuttable. Or are the facts in these articles wrong? Does Tagg not really own the machines?

    It was 12 years ago when we had an election fiasco. The solution should have been to standardize voting in all states to the same kind of machine and one that's extremely accurate and leaves a hand-countable paper trail. Did we do so? Of course ****ing not. There should never be any question who has won an American election! Every single vote should be counted beyond all doubt.

    Anyway, the links are below. The one about the sleepovers is labeled that. If you answer, please do so with substance. In other words, maybe show some information that Tagg doesn't really own the machines or that the machines are reliable or that recounts actually are possible. No ad hominem attacks like Luna's just being a bitchy slut or a liberal whiner. I've been called stuff before and I don't care. It's the substance that matters, and I don't mean stuff that you smoke on Saturday night. I mean verifiable facts.

    People have laughed at me for being in favor of having the UN come in to supervise American elections, but crap like this is why! You can't have conflicts of interests. What if in the last Super Bowl every single ref was employed by the New England Patriots and would get a fat bonus if the Pats won?

    Okay, the links:

    Does Mitt Romney's Son Tagg Have An Investment In Some Ohio Voting Machines? | Cleveland Leader

    sleepovers
    Brien Jackson: Controversial Voting Machine "Sleepovers" Still Legal

    WTF? Tagg Romney Is Now Proud Owner Of Ohio’s Voting Machines | Addicting Info

    Tagg Romney Invested in Ohio Electronic Voting Machines | Politicol News

    Tagg Romney Invested in Ohio Electronic Voting Machines | Politicol News

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    Re: WTF? Tagg Romney owns electronic voting machines in Ohio

    This belongs in CT. If you want to open the "investors = owners = in control" line of thinking, be prepared for the onslaught of stupidity.
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    Re: WTF? Tagg Romney owns electronic voting machines in Ohio

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    This belongs in CT. If you want to open the "investors = owners = in control" line of thinking, be prepared for the onslaught of stupidity.
    Her post sounds like a "Priorities USA" advertisement ( Soros backed far left disinformation center)

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    Re: WTF? Tagg Romney owns electronic voting machines in Ohio

    Uh oh....guess the "Stolen Election" nonsense is flaring up with the race tightening.
    j-mac and Grant like this.

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    Re: WTF? Tagg Romney owns electronic voting machines in Ohio

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    What if in the last Super Bowl every single ref was employed by the New England Patriots and would get a fat bonus if the Pats won?
    Than we might have had a fairly called game in which they would've have called a safety on the first play from the line of scrimage for Romney throwing a deep pass under diress... and some of the holding the reciever calls when they were draped all over Gronk Hernandez and Welker might have helped our drives to kill off the game continue... For that matter, there woud've been a holding call for the two holds which allowed Eli Manning to get free on the 4th and 20 pass and the clock wouldve ran instead of staying stopped twice on that final scoring drive in the prior pats-giants superbowl...

    (FYI... that's a more serious topic worthy of debate than this... )

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    Re: WTF? Tagg Romney owns electronic voting machines in Ohio

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    This belongs in CT. If you want to open the "investors = owners = in control" line of thinking, be prepared for the onslaught of stupidity.
    They're supposed to avoid even the appearance of tampering, nut just actual tampering. A conflict of interest happens when any kind of owner even has any possibility at all of tampering, or even if it appears that way. It should not be allowed. Period.

    And what's up with allowing programmers to take home voting machines. That's a complete WTF? Think that shows an appearance of tampering. That should be prohibited. All work on them should be done in the workplace under supervision.

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    Re: WTF? Tagg Romney owns electronic voting machines in Ohio

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    They're supposed to avoid even the appearance of tampering, nut just actual tampering. A conflict of interest happens when any kind of owner even has any possibility at all of tampering, or even if it appears that way. It should not be allowed. Period.

    And what's up with allowing programmers to take home voting machines. That's a complete WTF? Think that shows an appearance of tampering. That should be prohibited. All work on them should be done in the workplace under supervision.
    All it shows is a heightened level of paranoia.
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    Re: WTF? Tagg Romney owns electronic voting machines in Ohio

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    All it shows is a heightened level of paranoia.
    well in 2000 bugsy Daily and other democratic party criminal elements did everything possible to steal the election for al gore and they still failed.

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    Re: WTF? Tagg Romney owns electronic voting machines in Ohio

    I really wish we would go to back to paper based voting. Something as simple as printing out a receipt from the voting machine in a machine readable font, so the voter could verify that who they are voting for is who the machine accepts, would do wonders for the confidence level in our voting procedures.

    machine readable font means a human can verify the machine so auditing can take place.
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    Re: WTF? Tagg Romney owns electronic voting machines in Ohio

    Romney is also a computer programmer for security software. He's been seen breaking into warehouses where they store voting machines. Here is a picture of him someone took as he fled the scene.

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