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Offensive Things Said? Anne Romney "daughters/women full of baloney".

clownboy said:
And in your obvious and biased miscomprehension you prove the content of that miscomprehension. At least ONE girl is full of baloney (hint, look in the mirror). :mrgreen:
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To each their own. I speak the Queen's English and I know exactly what Queen Romney meant and exactly what she said and how she said it and how it is the regular Republican-speak about women and their rights as women.
 
tessaesque said:
This is an overly dramatic rant, IMO.

Nothing I said is generally untrue. You've had great experiences with women. Awesome. But to act as though women are always easy to deal with, always rational, always perfect, always great...that's nonsense. There is nothing wrong with pointing out the negative characteristics that tend to present themselves in women. It is not anti-woman to say we're emotional or willful. It is not anti-women to point out that it can be hard to live with other women.

I never said "all women do this" or "all situations with women end this way".

But that won't matter to people who deem it necessary to militantly raise women to some sort of pedestal standing to compensate for alleged sexism.
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So then I am full of baloney and emotionally dramatic now? That's really unfortunate for you to blast me and discredit me for disagreeing with you, especially when you're not presenting facts to discredit me. As far as I am concerned, you did paint all women with a board brush and you are continuing to do so, and you're calling me overly dramatic for pointing that out.... do you think that that is honestly fair? What are your facts supporting your claims?

If you can't live with other women because it creates too much drama, then maybe that's a personal problem of yours, your personal experiences, it was your roommates, or the women in your family, or something else, but would it really make it reflective of all women as a whole??????

I realize that some women don't like other women, and they avoid friendship with other women. Most of their friends are guys. I don't know if you're one of those women, but again, if you are or you are not is irrelevant because you're feelings about all women are not the general rule.

Can you tell me how your statement is generally untrue. Do you have some kind empirical evidence backing up your claim?


I if you think I put all women on pedestals, I don't.... not at all. I just know I have lived with women and didn't have much drama with them, but they later moved in with a boyfriend, and then there is a lot of drama. I am not saying it's the general rule, but I know some women enjoy living with other women and being friends with other women. Personally don't like drama or gossip, and I try to avoid it. Does that make me not feminine in your eyes?

Really, I am trying to understand where you're coming from with your statements and saying you're right and I am wrong, and I am just being irrational and dramatic.
 
A thinking woman, with a husband who his running for president might want to say something like "I love my boys, and I'd have loved to have had daughters, too."

That's what a woman with a brain in her head who has a husband running for president would say.

However, I am so glad that Mrs. Romney was so candid and showed everyone what she is really made of...
 
Uzidoesit said:
A thinking woman, with a husband who his running for president might want to say something like "I love my boys, and I'd have loved to have had daughters, too."

That's what a woman with a brain in her head who has a husband running for president would say.

However, I am so glad that Mrs. Romney was so candid and showed everyone what she is really made of...
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Te sentence following the paragrapgh you misrepresented reads...

Romney admits she wanted a daughter too.
 
SheWolf said:
So then I am full of baloney and emotionally dramatic now? That's really unfortunate for you to blast me and discredit me for disagreeing with you, especially when you're not presenting facts to discredit me. As far as I am concerned, you did paint all women with a board brush and you are continuing to do so, and you're calling me overly dramatic for pointing that out.... do you think that that is honestly fair? What are your facts supporting your claims?

If you can't live with other women because it creates too much drama, then maybe that's a personal problem of yours, your personal experiences, it was your roommates, or the women in your family, or something else, but would it really make it reflective of all women as a whole??????

I realize that some women don't like other women, and they avoid friendship with other women. Most of their friends are guys. I don't know if you're one of those women, but again, if you are or you are not is irrelevant because you're feelings about all women are not the general rule.

Can you tell me how your statement is generally untrue. Do you have some kind empirical evidence backing up your claim?


I if you think I put all women on pedestals, I don't.... not at all. I just know I have lived with women and didn't have much drama with them, but they later moved in with a boyfriend, and then there is a lot of drama. I am not saying it's the general rule, but I know some women enjoy living with other women and being friends with other women. Personally don't like drama or gossip, and I try to avoid it. Does that make me not feminine in your eyes?

Really, I am trying to understand where you're coming from with your statements and saying you're right and I am wrong, and I am just being irrational and dramatic.
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....you're proving my point right now. Seriously, calm the hell down. You need proof that women are emotional? Seriously?
 
Both sexes get crazy and dramatic. That's the point. Both sexes have ways and things that leave a lot to be desired at times. No one is perfect, neither the boys and girls.

Can't live with them, can't live without them, as the saying goes.

Our leaders would do well to say things that bring people together, not divide them. We is divided enough.
 
tessaesque said:
....you're proving my point right now. Seriously, calm the hell down. You need proof that women are emotional? Seriously?
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I haven't logged in for a long time, but I think you're post is, again, dismissive and coy. Women are emotional, but guess what, so are men. Men are just not supposed to show emotion and cry in public according to western culture. If you want to say all females are full of baloney for showing her emotions, then you have to say all men are weak if they shed a tear.

I am not going sit here and bash Ann Romney. I am not going to call her emotional and full of baloney for crying, or call her sexist because of her statement. I think she is a woman of incredible strength. She has fought cancer and MS, and she's brave. I have nothing but respect for her, and I know if she actually had five daughters, she probably wouldn't have said such a thing.

But it's a simple old fashion, sexist stereotype to discredit all females as emotional and incapable of logic and reasoning.... seriously, study up on it. An attitude which you seemed to have supported, and, again, I also stopped at calling you sexist, didn't I? I stopped at attacking you. I understand you're younger than I, and there is probably some reason for you say what you're saying and believe, as wrong and flawed as I think it is.

But here is my challenge.

1. Stop dismissing every single one of my responses by calling me emotional and irrational, and
2. Have a sane conversation with me

What is your logical, rational proof that all women are emotional and overly dramatic? What has led you to the conclusion that women can't handling living together because of all the emotion? Where is your proof? How can you support your statements?


Stop discrediting me and saying I am overly emotional and dramatic. Talk to me a sane, rational human being. That's all I ask for. :shrug:
 
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