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Patrickt said:
Tax cuts benefit all who pay taxes and yes, they benefit those who pay the most tax, the most. That's a fairly simple concept for all but liberals. As President Obama pointed out, when taxpayers are a minority and those on the dole are a majority, the socialists will have a lock on elections.
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What exactly is the reason that the wealthy need more tax cuts? The top 5% have already amassed a $40 Trillion nest egg and the Govt. is broke. All we get for cutting the taxes of the top brackets it is more cash in hedge funds that use it to bid up commoditites we all use. It just plain insane.
 
The Barbarian said:
Just so I know before I research this then .. you are saying it's a lie .. . and Obama set the withdrawal dates that were followed correct ?.....because with just a quick search I found this ..... . All US Forces were mandated to withdraw from Iraqi territory by 31 December 2011 under the terms of a bilateral agreement signed in 2008 by President Bush. The U.S. troop withdrawal from Iraq was completed on 18 December 2011 early Sunday morning

So you are touting it as Republican rhetoric .... because under Obama's watch .. we got out 13 days early ???
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Saying and doing are two different things. Had it been a war hawk president and congress, they could've easily extended the deadline.

So by your reasoning I can also already accredit the withdraw from Afghanistan to Obama.
 
Staples is a dismal store. They look like they will go the way of Best Buys. Dominos is good healthy food, if you like to eat garbage, I never shopped at Toy's R Us when my kid was little, so I can't say much one way or another.

I don't care if Romney built the Taj Mahal; I don't trust him as far as I could throw him.
 
iguanaman said:
What exactly is the reason that the wealthy need more tax cuts? The top 5% have already amassed a $40 Trillion nest egg and the Govt. is broke. All we get for cutting the taxes of the top brackets it is more cash in hedge funds that use it to bid up commoditites we all use. It just plain insane.
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I have no idea why you quoted my post since your insane rant has absolutely nothing to do with what I said. I said, that by definition a tax cut benefits those who pay taxes. Was that too difficult for you to grasp? Then I said, when we have over half the people on the dole then the welfare cheats and deadbeats will have a lock on elections and taxpayers will be milked dry. That's pretty simple, too. If you want to respond to either idea or simply go off on an insane rant again, feel free.
 
shiang said:
How's Romney really different from Bush. Same warhawk rhetoric, almost identical economic policies (only more extreme with further tax cuts, deregulation, and voucher system for healthcare).


They also claim to cut deficit spending

History of Deficits and Surpluses In The United States


They say "whoever gives away the most wins the election"

Who gave huge tax cuts? Not Obama.

Bush didn't win because of failing to slow the high tech collapse of 2001.
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Yes, Willard plans on increasing spending where it isnt wanted and reducing taxes where it isnt needed.

He still hasnt released his tax returns, by the way, and is considered a viable candidate, that is so sad.

When someone has such a great deal to hide that he hides his returns and this many people still support him, you know that the hate for the Black President is very strong.
 
Peter King said:
intelligence will normally give you loads of information. There are ways to find out a lot of things, just look at finding of all those leaders of Al Qaida around the world who have been blown to pieces.

In a perfect world one would arrest and prosecute terrorists, but these people do not live in a location you can simply arrest, extradite, prosecute and imprison. They live in remote areas of areas with loads of enemies of the US who would just love to kill a US soldier in their war against the US and the rest of the West, you cannot send in the local swat team to arrest and capture. They most likely will fight to the death and take as much US men with them as they can. Killing them with drones might not be the ideal situation but it is the best one available to the US IMHO.
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So you opt to go with authoritarian rule of man where one man can just declare someone a terrorist and viola... you believe it hook, line and sinker. I'm not for that kind of authoritarianism. I'm looking for trust in a rule of law instead.
 
shiang said:
Saying and doing are two different things. Had it been a war hawk president and congress, they could've easily extended the deadline.

So by your reasoning I can also already accredit the withdraw from Afghanistan to Obama.
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You most certainly can .. if those withdrawals closely follow Obama's withdrawal dates ... then he indeed deserves the credit for them ..

But it's interesting to see your opinion..... basically saying that it "might" not have happened ... even tho that agreement was signed by Iraq and the US ... . I can just as easily say .. they might just have brought them home sooner .. and that would be as close to being provable as your statement.
 
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