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Obama Up 5, Approval Rating Above 50 Percent In Latest Gallup Tracking | TPM LiveWire


[h=1]Obama Up 5, Approval Rating Above 50 Percent In Latest Gallup Tracking[/h] Tom Kludt 1:56 PM EDT, Monday October 8, 2012
President Barack Obama leads Mitt Romney by 5 points among registered voters and boasts an approval rating above 50 percent, according to Monday's daily tracking numbers from Gallup.
In the head-to-head, Obama outpaces Romney, 50 percent to 45 percent. But that 5-point margin is based on responses gathered during the tracking period of Oct. 1-7, which means that it was partially conducted before the Oct. 3 debate and partially after Friday's jobs report.
Obama's approval rating may serve as a fresher indicator of the state of the race. Using a 3-day rolling average, the latest approval rating from Gallup is based on the tracking period of Oct. 5-7, which encompasses the aftermath of the first debate and the two days that immeidately followed the jobs report. Fifty-one percent of American adults surveyed in Monday's release approve of the president's job performance, compared with 44 percent who disapprove.
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DOJ musta called Gallup and set them straight.
 
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Muddy Creek said:
Breitbart?

The Three Lies of Andrew Breitbart

Breitbart is a proven pathological liar.
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Do you realize Mr. Breitbart is deceased? And the article was a report on the Politico/George Washington University Battleground Tracking poll? It wasn't a Breitbart poll. Here's the Politico report. You can't get much further left than Politico. Good luck spinning this one.

ORLANDO, Fla. — President Barack Obama has a worsening enthusiasm problem.

A new POLITICO/George Washington University Battleground Tracking Poll of likely voters shows Obama ahead of Mitt Romney 49 percent to 48 percent nationally, a statistical tie and a percentage point closer than a week ago.
The head-to-head numbers have held remarkably steady through the past three weeks, but there’s been a notable shift of intensity from the Democrats to the Republicans since the party conventions over a month ago. Most of the poll’s calls were made before Romney’s strong performance at the first presidential debate in Denver

Only 73 percent who support Obama say they are “extremely likely” to vote, compared to 86 percent who back Romney. Likewise, 84 percent of Republicans say they are extremely likely to vote, compared to 76 percent of Democrats.

Among those extremely likely to vote, Romney actually leads Obama 52 percent to 46 percent. That’s up from a 2-point lead last week. Obama led 50 percent to 47 percent among this group three weeks ago.


Read more: Battleground Tracking Poll: Dems less enthusiastic - James Hohmann - POLITICO.com
 
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Muddy Creek said:
Obama Up 5, Approval Rating Above 50 Percent In Latest Gallup Tracking | TPM LiveWire
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Boy, you latch on to whatever you need to in order to feed that confirmation bias, don't you?

This is referring to the same poll as in the OP, and here's the primary source, from Gallup, not some left-wing blog:

Romney Narrows Vote Gap After Historic Debate Win

Note, right at the top:

PRE-DEBATE: Obama 50, Romney 45
POST-DEBATE: Obama 47, Romney 47

This has already been pointed out a couple of times in this thread, but no matter -- you'll see what you want.
 
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If you believe the polls are an accurate and reliable view of where likely voters stand....well, then I'd be focusing more on battleground states.

All of them are within the margin of error, and current non-battleground Pennsylvania's most recent poll (10/4/12) shows Obama up by two. That's the only "Leans Obama" state where the most recent polling has him up by less than 5 points.
 
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Muddy Creek said:
Show me the information is slanted in either source.

Otherwise, your "liberal site" mantra is just a way of saying "Crap, that's the truth and I know it."
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I think it's adorable that you want to claim victory based on your ignorance of the bias of sites like thinkprogress.org. Any posts of yours that I have read have been partisan at best. I haven't seen in those posts any evidence of a desire for intelligent debate.

The fact is, most non-partisan fact checkers have come up with a near tie between the President and former Governor. Even with the flaws in fact checking, the consistency of the non-partisans makes a fine point.

Feel free to show my I'm wrong and engage in debate.

What if...? said:
Never forget that Romney (and Obama) were both coached by professionals in the field of persuasion.

The words each used were selected by professionals who know more about how our brains actually WORK than we do. How our cognitive processes sort truth from lies. How to make us feel good about what they want us to like and bad about what they want us to reject.

It's science, artfully applied.

ANY reasonably intelligent person can wield these tools with effect.

Just try to remember this when anyone "sends a tingle up your leg".

Every tingle is money in the bank for the designer of the message that elicited it.
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I have yet to feel that tingle that thrill up my leg that Chris Matthews talks about for any candidate. That coaching your talking about goes without saying. Look at the anti-Obama rhetoric and the crazy stuff the guys say about Romney. It's all they do! They twist and lie and game.

Finding who to vote for is mostly a matter of digging through that BS and looking at the clearest picture behind the BS you can make out. I'm in NC, so my vote might actually matter, but I'm torn on the Presidential. I would rather vote for Johnson than the two lesser candidates, but he won't win. I will probably end up holding my nose.

Politics is messy business.
 
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Keridan said:
I think it's adorable that you want to claim victory based on your ignorance of the bias of sites like thinkprogress.org. Any posts of yours that I have read have been partisan at best. I haven't seen in those posts any evidence of a desire for intelligent debate.

The fact is, most non-partisan fact checkers have come up with a near tie between the President and former Governor. Even with the flaws in fact checking, the consistency of the non-partisans makes a fine point.

Feel free to show my I'm wrong and engage in debate.



I have yet to feel that tingle that thrill up my leg that Chris Matthews talks about for any candidate. That coaching your talking about goes without saying. Look at the anti-Obama rhetoric and the crazy stuff the guys say about Romney. It's all they do! They twist and lie and game.

Finding who to vote for is mostly a matter of digging through that BS and looking at the clearest picture behind the BS you can make out. I'm in NC, so my vote might actually matter, but I'm torn on the Presidential. I would rather vote for Johnson than the two lesser candidates, but he won't win. I will probably end up holding my nose.

Politics is messy business.
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High information voters with critical thinking skills aren't really the problem.

They aren't spending billions on persuasive messaging to convince US.
 
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Verax said:
Obama Vs. Romney Gallup Poll: Oct. 8 Results - Business Insider

Well that was short lived, I guess now that Americans have had time to work through all of Romney's lies they're once again turning their back, good for them.
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LMFAO... actually, the lie is presenting this as if its a post debate poll... That was a weekly sampled poll from 10/1-10/7.... meaning 3 of the 7 days were pre-debtate... Gallup also put a daily tracking poll out for 10/4-10/6 which has it tied... Of course, the press would put one out there, though wouldn't it...

Pew, which even most liberals agree is heavily liberal, also put out a post debate poll, with Romney having a 4 pt lead... where's the press on that?

All the entirely post-debate sample polls have had it as a tie or a Romney lead...

Rasmussen 10/4-10/4 Tied
WeAskAmerica 10/4-10/4 Romney +2
Clarus 10/4-10/4 Romney +1
Gallup 10/4-10/6 Tied
Pew 10/4-10/7 Romney +4
Rasmussen 10/5-10/7 Tied

Going off a number of polls that have been produced recently, including pre-debate polls, RCP's polling average has Obama's lead dropped to 5pts to .5...

(you can clearly guess where the people who were all too excited to see this story put out there were from...)
 
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Verax said:
Obama Vs. Romney Gallup Poll: Oct. 8 Results - Business Insider

Well that was short lived, I guess now that Americans have had time to work through all of Romney's lies they're once again turning their back, good for them.
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Liberal can't win on merits, so all they have is to make up a lie themselves by calling the winner a lair. Obama was a no show at the debate, so now to cover for is absence (an empty chair) they all now call Romney a lair. Nice try.
 
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haymarket said:
If these latest Gallup results are accurate, it means that Romney can do very little over the next four weeks to actually win. It would difficult to gain a more convincing win over Obama than the one Romney pulled in the debate. And I doubt that will happen a second and third time because most of it was Obama's own darn fault.

So what can Romney do to actually win?
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Romney already won, did you not watch the debate? :doh
 
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Born Free said:
Romney already won, did you not watch the debate? :doh
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I believe we were talking about the November election.
 
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Muddy Creek said:
Romney did lie. Show me the President's lies.
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He didn't do **** for four years, we were all here to see that. If he even opened his mouth during the debate, he had to lie. He even lied about Obamacare not being a tax, among other things. He lied about creating all those jobs to offset the continued unemployment. That's why the unemployment has remained almost constant.
 
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Verax said:
Obama Vs. Romney Gallup Poll: Oct. 8 Results - Business Insider

Well that was short lived, I guess now that Americans have had time to work through all of Romney's lies they're once again turning their back, good for them.
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If its only one data point, its possible to be an outlier. Lets see if it is a trend before making any declarations.
 
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Velvet Elvis said:
I don't get it.

According to Gallup's website, we've got two sets of stats:

Pre-Debate: Obama up 50% to 45%.
Post-Debate: Obama and Romney now tied at 47% each.

Explain to me again, how this equates to a +5% jump for Obama, because it looks like Obama actually lost percentage points.
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I will explain bro... you need to use "obamamath"... you just make it up, so when Romney goes ahead in a major way , you just dived by.0839, then count the number of fake hair plugs on Bidens head, multiply by the number of Obama radical associations, subtract Pelosi's blinking rate per minute under full botoxing...and there you have it.=... + 5 Obama
 
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Travis007 said:
I will explain bro... you need to use "obamamath"... you just make it up, so when Romney goes ahead in a major way , you just dived by.0839, then count the number of fake hair plugs on Bidens head, multiply by the number of Obama radical associations, subtract Pelosi's blinking rate per minute under full botoxing...and there you have it.=... + 5 Obama
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You're stupid. Everyone knows that's how they came up with the unemployment rate!
 
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Muddy Creek said:
The "pattern" seems to be that Romney has YET to lead a poll except for the republican Rasmussen
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From the Pew Research Center:

"Romney’s Strong Debate Performance Erases Obama’s Lead: GOP Challenger Viewed as Candidate with New Ideas"

Romney

From Gallup:

Romney Posts Historic Win in Debate

An Oct. 4-5 Gallup poll finds roughly two in three Americans reporting that they watched the Oct. 3 debate, similar to what Gallup measured for each of the three 2008 presidential debates. Those who viewed the debate overwhelmingly believe Romney did a better job than Obama, 72% to 20%. Republicans were nearly unanimous in judging Romney the winner. But even Democrats rated Romney as doing a better job than Obama, 49% to 39%.

Romney Narrows Vote Gap After Historic Debate Win
 
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Velvet Elvis said:
You're stupid. Everyone knows that's how they came up with the unemployment rate!
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Oh thats right... my bad... : )
 
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Velvet Elvis said:
You're stupid. Everyone knows that's how they came up with the unemployment rate!
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And how is that?

Before you answer that... do I need to fabricate a tin foil hat to read your reply to that question?
 
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poweRob said:
And how is that?

Before you answer that... do I need to fabricate a tin foil hat to read your reply to that question?
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You may need one after this...

The professional core of the U.S. military overwhelmingly favors Mitt Romney over President Obama in the upcoming election — but not because of any particular military issues, according to a new poll of more than 3,100 active and reserve troops.

Respondents rated the economy and the candidates’ character as their most important considerations and all but ignored the war in Afghanistan as an issue of concern.

The Military Times Poll is a secure email survey of active-duty, National Guard and reserve members who are subscribers to the Military Times newspapers (see How We Did It, below).

This population is older and more senior than the military population at large, but it is representative of the professional core of the all-volunteer force.

snip....

Military Times Poll: Romney bests Obama, 2-1 - Military News | News From Afghanistan, Iraq And Around The World - Military Times
 
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poweRob said:
And how is that?

Before you answer that... do I need to fabricate a tin foil hat to read your reply to that question?
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Jesus, I can't even crack a joke before my stalker shows up.
 
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Travis007 said:
You may need one after this...

The professional core of the U.S. military overwhelmingly favors Mitt Romney over President Obama in the upcoming election — but not because of any particular military issues, according to a new poll of more than 3,100 active and reserve troops.

Respondents rated the economy and the candidates’ character as their most important considerations and all but ignored the war in Afghanistan as an issue of concern.

The Military Times Poll is a secure email survey of active-duty, National Guard and reserve members who are subscribers to the Military Times newspapers (see How We Did It, below).

This population is older and more senior than the military population at large, but it is representative of the professional core of the all-volunteer force.

Military Times Poll: Romney bests Obama, 2-1 - Military News | News From Afghanistan, Iraq And Around The World - Military Times
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Do you know what was being discussed? I guess not. I'm not worried about Romney winning. Not one iota.
 
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Velvet Elvis said:
Jesus, I can't even crack a joke before my stalker shows up.
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If you were just joking, then I apologize that my joke meter was broken there. As far as stalking... do you blame me? Your boobs are the greatest.
 
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poweRob said:
Do you know what was being discussed? I guess not. I'm not worried about Romney winning. Not one iota.
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Yea the subject of some fabricated fictional Obama bounce back...

ok so act surprised on election night...
 
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Travis007 said:
Yea the subject of some fabricated fictional Obama bounce back...

ok so act surprised on election night...
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No... You and velvet elvis were going on imply that the unemployment numbers were faked. I asked for velvet to commit to saying that and you jump in rambling about god knows what. Oh wells, thanks for playing.
 
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