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Best quote of the debate!

"Can we change the subject"
 
for two years he's been talking about his bold economic plan and now he saying "never mind".
 
For everyone who believes "anything" said in that debate, you must have been brainwashed by Santa, the Tooth Fairy, the Easter Bunny...and a few other invisible, well love characters.
 
Romney: "the economy tax."

Obama: "I still had 5 seconds left before he interupted me."
 
"I love big bird!"
 
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"Trickle down government"
 
"And everybody's getting a fair shot. And everybody's getting a fair share,"

uhh...

"Everybody's doing a fair share, and everybody's playing by the same rules,"
 
I liked that opening bit by Romney about how he and the president were having a nice, romantic evening. And actual joke by Mitt. And it was funny.
 
this:
ROMNEY: Which is -- which is my experience as a governor is if I come in and -- and lay down a piece of legislation and say, "It's my way or the highway," I don't get a lot done. What I do is the same way that Tip O'Neill and Ronald Reagan worked together some years ago. When Ronald Reagan ran for office, he laid out the principles that he was going to foster. He said he was going to lower tax rates. He said he was going to broaden the base. You've said the same thing, you're going to simplify the tax code, broaden the base.
Those are my principles. I want to bring down the tax burden on middle-income families. And I'm going to work together with Congress to say, OK, what -- what are the various ways we could bring down deductions, for instance? One way, for instance, would be to have a single number. Make up a number, $25,000, $50,000. Anybody can have deductions up to that amount. And then that number disappears for high-income people. That's one way one could do it. One could follow Bowles-Simpson as a model and take deduction by deduction and make differences that way. There are alternatives to accomplish the objective I have, which is to bring down rates, broaden the base, simplify the code, and create incentives for growth.
in this deft move he gives the appearance he intends to reduce deductions for high earners, while illustrating Obama's leadership style is not conducive to legislative compromise. but more importantly romney illustrates why it is OK to offer broad principles and that he has ideas about how to implement those broad approaches with specifics, while positively comparing himself to saint reagan
Obama was clearly outgunned on these points
 
Romney: "the economy tax."

Obama: "I still had 5 seconds left before he interupted me."

I went to MSDNC after the debate to see how the idgit Obamabots that fake being journalists there would say...and amazingly ( not ) ...they had a segment that Romney was a rude bully during the debate and they used Obama whining to Lehrer about being cut off by 5 seconds by Lehrer BUT THEY alterred the video to have it appear that it was Romney that cut Obama off and that Obama was chastizing Romney that it was Romney who cut Obama off by 5 seconds.. BLATENT BS!!!... mind altering bias in the media... I pray others saw that and that Mitt will show that piece as the pure propoganda it was cropped to look like...
 
"I like Big Bird."

that made me laugh realy hard for some reason.
 
this:

in this deft move he gives the appearance he intends to reduce deductions for high earners, while illustrating Obama's leadership style is not conducive to legislative compromise. but more importantly romney illustrates why it is OK to offer broad principles and that he has ideas about how to implement those broad approaches with specifics, while positively comparing himself to saint reagan
Obama was clearly outgunned on these points

I agree, that was Romney's best moment. It sort of encapsulates the strategy he used to handcuff Obama. Every time Obama tried to pin him down on the few specifics that Romney has enunciated, Romney would just dance away and say, "well, those are just some possibilities. When I'm president there will be rainbows and moonbeams, for reasons to be named later...."
 
Best single line of the debate, maybe not the strongest point made, but the best "one liner" was:

"You just don't pick winners and losers, you pick losers"

hahahaha.....boy aint that the truth. I'm ready to see Joe Biden get super serial in the debate.....lol

Obama acted like he didn't even want to be President anymore. I truly do believe that Obama is intimidated by Romney.
 
When Romney made his remark at the beginning of the debate regarding the "buried middle class" I wondered if Biden didn't maybe cringe a little when he saw his own words used by the opposition during the debate.
 
Best single line of the debate, maybe not the strongest point made, but the best "one liner" was:

"You just don't pick winners and losers, you pick losers"

hahahaha.....boy aint that the truth. I'm ready to see Joe Biden get super serial in the debate.....lol

Obama acted like he didn't even want to be President anymore. I truly do believe that Obama is intimidated by Romney.

A good line, but it was so obviously pre-written and rehearsed that it flopped. I wondered if one of his aids was sitting in the audience holding up seven fingers ("hit him with zinger No. 7 Mitt!!).

And btw, that was also one of Mitt's many lies. He claimed that something like half of the companies in the loan guarantee program had failed, when in fact it's about 10%.
 
I liked that opening bit by Romney about how he and the president were having a nice, romantic evening. And actual joke by Mitt. And it was funny.

lol, where they shook each others hand, almost hugged each other. Then Romney complimented Obama on his 20th anniversary. All the while they had smiles with "I hate you" written across their foreheads. It's like watching a "reality" show =P.
 
A good line, but it was so obviously pre-written and rehearsed that it flopped. I wondered if one of his aids was sitting in the audience holding up seven fingers ("hit him with zinger No. 7 Mitt!!).
mitt attributed that statement to another. it weakened its affect

And btw, that was also one of Mitt's many lies. He claimed that something like half of the companies in the loan guarantee program had failed, when in fact it's about 10%.
and that illustrates what was wrong with Obama. that was a low hanging softball. he should have hit that one back while using it to show that romney is inclined to prevaricate instead of speak the facts
 
I agree, that was Romney's best moment. It sort of encapsulates the strategy he used to handcuff Obama. Every time Obama tried to pin him down on the few specifics that Romney has enunciated, Romney would just dance away and say, "well, those are just some possibilities. When I'm president there will be rainbows and moonbeams, for reasons to be named later...."

Actually... that was candidate Obama 2008 who promised the yellow moons, green clovers, and pink hearts... and the thing he's handcuffed by is his record... since he didn't create any of them...

Romney was just saying clearly... I'm not going to dictate policy to the American people, then whine about it and take my ball home with me when I'm not able to (as Obama has)... I'm going to go in and work together with people to craft the most well agreed upon plan... and get it accomplished... It was a stark contrast to the divisive partisan rhetoric that Obama continued on throughout the debate with...

Romney's best moment was when he wisely waited until he knew it was the last comment in that segment, and he put Obama's record to him right on stage next to him, looking directly at him... and Obama was there with his head down and no response...

Then, Mitt drove the point home, anytime when Obama tried to talk about things he wants to do... Romney said WE DID THEM IN MA!!!

And, he said at one point (would've loved to have seen more of this)... "You had 2 years... if you wanted to do this, you shouldve taken it and ran..." (in regards to Bowles-Simpson)...


There were actually 2 really strong points to me that really reflected why Romney won the debate... but they were stylistic and not substantive... and so subtle I doubt most people noticed...


One was when Romney was talking, and there was a loud crashing sound behind him... and while it did catch him off guard, his reaction to it was just what it ought to have been... he kept on point and didn't let it distract him from making his response in a concise manner...

The other was when the issue of Bowles-Simpson was brought up... and it was brought up as Bowles-Simpson, by the Romney, then the President responded to it, then Jim Lehrer put it to Romney as Simpson-Bowles... and Romney kept on, and repeated it as Simpson-Bowleswithout stumbling on it for a second... Now, these have been used interchangeably and as co-sponsors of the bill, each have been perfectly acceptable... most people naturally make it Bowles-Simpson, from stylistically alphabetizing lists of names... and Erskine Bowles is certainly the more well known an influential of the two co-sponsors... However, it is really a meaningless pedantic issue to get caught up on... Still it was a potential tripping point in the speech pattern... of having to adjust from the reference to Bowles-Simpson and to Simpson-Bowles... and he did it so smoothly, I doubt many more people other than I even noticed it...

These two things just showed how more alert he was, how he was able to stay on message better, and how he performed under pressure amidst potential distractions...
 
Actually... that was candidate Obama 2008 who promised the yellow moons, green clovers, and pink hearts... and the thing he's handcuffed by is his record... since he didn't create any of them...

Romney was just saying clearly... I'm not going to dictate policy to the American people, then whine about it and take my ball home with me when I'm not able to (as Obama has)... I'm going to go in and work together with people to craft the most well agreed upon plan... and get it accomplished... It was a stark contrast to the divisive partisan rhetoric that Obama continued on throughout the debate with...

Romney's best moment was when he wisely waited until he knew it was the last comment in that segment, and he put Obama's record to him right on stage next to him, looking directly at him... and Obama was there with his head down and no response...

Then, Mitt drove the point home, anytime when Obama tried to talk about things he wants to do... Romney said WE DID THEM IN MA!!!

And, he said at one point (would've loved to have seen more of this)... "You had 2 years... if you wanted to do this, you shouldve taken it and ran..." (in regards to Bowles-Simpson)...


There were actually 2 really strong points to me that really reflected why Romney won the debate... but they were stylistic and not substantive... and so subtle I doubt most people noticed...


One was when Romney was talking, and there was a loud crashing sound behind him... and while it did catch him off guard, his reaction to it was just what it ought to have been... he kept on point and didn't let it distract him from making his response in a concise manner...

The other was when the issue of Bowles-Simpson was brought up... and it was brought up as Bowles-Simpson, by the Romney, then the President responded to it, then Jim Lehrer put it to Romney as Simpson-Bowles... and Romney kept on, and repeated it as Simpson-Bowleswithout stumbling on it for a second... Now, these have been used interchangeably and as co-sponsors of the bill, each have been perfectly acceptable... most people naturally make it Bowles-Simpson, from stylistically alphabetizing lists of names... and Erskine Bowles is certainly the more well known an influential of the two co-sponsors... However, it is really a meaningless pedantic issue to get caught up on... Still it was a potential tripping point in the speech pattern... of having to adjust from the reference to Bowles-Simpson and to Simpson-Bowles... and he did it so smoothly, I doubt many more people other than I even noticed it...

These two things just showed how more alert he was, how he was able to stay on message better, and how he performed under pressure amidst potential distractions...

yes, parroting back "simpson-Bowles" as it was spoken to him was so artful [/s]
 
mitt attributed that statement to another. it weakened its affect


and that illustrates what was wrong with Obama. that was a low hanging softball. he should have hit that one back while using it to show that romney is inclined to prevaricate instead of speak the facts

sucks when Obama has no facts to back up anything becasue he is an abject failure.. Obama got exposed BADLY... Obama because reality is reality could not even go on the offense because Mitt would have thrown the haymaker at him that would have leveled him if he tried to run his normal BS.. so Obama was reduced to a puppet with no strings, no teleprompter and was shown to me a mental midgit he is.. a total loser.. no integrity or ability to process on his feet..

but it was his anniversary so how rude for the debate to be that night.. its ****IN Camelot you know..
 
‘‘I'm sure it’s the most romantic place you can imagine, here with me.’’
 
I went to MSDNC after the debate to see how the idgit Obamabots that fake being journalists there would say...and amazingly ( not ) ...they had a segment that Romney was a rude bully during the debate and they used Obama whining to Lehrer about being cut off by 5 seconds by Lehrer BUT THEY alterred the video to have it appear that it was Romney that cut Obama off and that Obama was chastizing Romney that it was Romney who cut Obama off by 5 seconds.. BLATENT BS!!!... mind altering bias in the media... I pray others saw that and that Mitt will show that piece as the pure propoganda it was cropped to look like...
Ha... I love the MSDNC association, never seen that...

I also thought it was a ridiculous moment for Obama "I actually had 5 seconds before I was cut off", when he was hardly cut off all night, and then spoke for another 30-45 seconds after saying that... and he spoke for 5 minutes more than Romney on the night, who was interrupted constantly by Jim Lehrer, who found his soft spot for the president, and through his respect for the office couldn't put his foot down about the president rambling on... So to whine about being cut off on the 1 ocassion, then to continue to talk without saying anything of worth for another 30-45 seconds was really pety...


I flipped around as I typically do after these things to find different coverages... without cable I had PBS, CBS, ABC, NBC, and Local FOX25 News... ABC as usual tended to have the most accurate coverage, from what I saw...

NBC reacted with Romney winning, but then kind of switched talking points to ways Obama should've won, and could win, and anything they could to do damage control...

CBS I'm not even sure I saw them saying Romney won, they were reacting really in shock, like they had a foregone conclusion of celebrating an Obama victory, and went with stunned looks... and poor programming... that was slanted for Obama... but lacked substance or focus on what just happened...

ABC had a broad mix of talent from both parties, and seeming uncommitted reporters, who entirely beat it home that Romney scored huge on the debate, won it heavily... comparing it with the first Bush vs Kerry debate... a clear winner Romney... with even Donna Brazzille and Austin Goolsbee coming out and talking about how Romney won it handily, before 20 mins into it trying to do damage control for Obama...

PBS had both Brooks and Shields heavily saying Romney won, with Shields immediately into damage control, but it appeared more like disdain for the president, and a questioning of his competence... Then they had a lengthy discussion after the debate with the Charlie Rose show, which was brilliant... a panel of like 4 liberal journalists, then Katy Kay (same thing essentially), and then a pundit from either side, Mike Murphy from the Republican side... and they all went on and on and on about missed opportunities by the president, and how he was heavily defeated, and how they were disappointed in the president... and thrown off that Mitt Romney came out as who he was rather than trying to appease the right... and that this is the Mitt Romney that everyone wants to see... now they're getting it...


On the whole... that may be the best line of the debates... not anything the candidates themselves made, but the reaction to it across the board as "Romney won" or the few liberals in damage control with "the president was awful tonight"...

That changes the landscape of the election...

this wasn't "well a draw favors the challenger" blah blah blah... this was Romney clearly took it to Obama, with a soft response...
 
lol, where they shook each others hand, almost hugged each other. Then Romney complimented Obama on his 20th anniversary. All the while they had smiles with "I hate you" written across their foreheads. It's like watching a "reality" show =P.

One of the telling things, too... when the families went up on stage... While the candidates typically will go over and shake hands with the other candidates family... One of Romney's sons was the first of either of the families to go over and shake hands with the other family... It kind of gave off the clear impression that the Romneys were confident and pleased with the result, while the Obama family was stunned and in disarray, watching what leadership looks like and reacting to it as it was happening...
 
‘‘I'm sure it’s the most romantic place you can imagine, here with me.’’

I heard the line as a joke, and gave a smirk and ignored it... waiting for the issues to be discussed... but in a debate really void of the 1-liners... that 1 comment kept coming back to me the whole night as a potential reason why Obama could've been off his game, by getting pissed at it... and I fully expect some liberals making a stink about it throughout the next 2 weeks...
 
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