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Grassley, Ayotte want answers on OMB promise to cover defense layoff costs

cpwill said:
really. Who gives a hoot about the notion of separated powers or rule of law, anywho? the President is above the law!!!
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If it gets him re-elected, anything goes.

Meanwhile, he also just ordered DOJ to buy that empty prison in Illinois that Congress (under both parties) denied him the funds for.
 
cpwill said:
really. Who gives a hoot about the notion of separated powers or rule of law, anywho? the President is above the law!!!
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No, the president isn't above the law.
 
Hairytic said:
No, the president isn't above the law.
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:) well you need to go on up to 1600 Penn Ave and let them know that, because they seem to have forgotten.
 
Harshaw said:
Good grief. The White House asks contractors not to send out layoff notices just before the election, as the law requires, and then offers to pay their legal fees if they get sued because of it.

The White House has no authority to do any of that, and the motivation is plain -- they don't want the layoff notices to affect the election, because they happen in swing states (Lockheed-Martin in VA, specifically).

This isn't ginned up. This is outrageous. What you're doing is trying to spin it into no big deal, but in fact, it IS a big deal.
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Nice spin on the story. The truth is, the defense contractors are worried about losing money because of the sequester. They threaten to send out pink slips before the election to pressure congress and the president to make a deal on cuts rather than to let the automatic cuts take place. Defense contractors don't have to send out pink slips now because the cuts wouldn't actually take place until well after January.
This is really a big non story.
 
Hairytic said:
Nice spin on the story. The truth is, the defense contractors are worried about losing money because of the sequester. They threaten to send out pink slips before the election to pressure congress and the president to make a deal on cuts rather than to let the automatic cuts take place. Defense contractors don't have to send out pink slips now because the cuts wouldn't actually take place until well after January.
This is really a big non story.
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Oh, lordy. THAT is a DAZZLING spin.

I guess Obama can do no wrong, and you'll do whatever mental cartwheels you need to in order to make it so.
 
Hairytic said:
Name the laws Obama has broken.
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:shrug: off of the top of my head, our immigration laws, welfare reform, and now the WARN act.
 
Hairytic said:
Name the laws Obama has broken.
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He has no authority to do this. He is 1) abdicating his Constitutional duty to faithfully execute the laws, and 2) he has no authority to commit the government to paying legal fees to protect businesses who get sued under the law.
 
Harshaw said:
Oh, lordy. THAT is a DAZZLING spin.

I guess Obama can do no wrong, and you'll do whatever mental cartwheels you need to in order to make it so.
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Your still sounding desperate.
 
cpwill said:
:shrug: off of the top of my head, our immigration laws, welfare reform, and now the WARN act.
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Let's not forget the War Powers Act for his illegal war in Libya.
 
Harshaw said:
He has no authority to do this. He is 1) abdicating his Constitutional duty to faithfully execute the laws, and 2) he has no authority to commit the government to paying legal fees to protect businesses who get sued under the law.
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He hasn't broken any laws regardless of how you see the situation.
 
Hairytic said:
He hasn't broken any laws regardless of how you see the situation.
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Obviously, you're 100% closed to the idea of any Obama wrongdoing, period. :shrug: Not much reason to bother with you further, I guess.
 
Hairytic said:
Obama hasn't broken any laws.
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we have listed for you four in which he (or his administration, at his direction) has. simply doing the see-no-evil thing and going "nuh-uh!" isn't really that effective of a debate strategy.
 
Harshaw said:
That was brazen. But Congress let him do it.
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That seems to be the way of it :(. Congres has long since enabled the creation of an imperial presidency.
 
Hairytic said:
You just desperatingly wish your version of the story was true.
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Pffff. All you've been able to say to all the substantive things I've posted is "nuh-uh." You're not even competent to be HAVING this discussion, let alone determining what's "true."

So yeah. For you, there's no possibility that Obama could ever have done anything wrong. Cling to that if it makes you feel better.
 
cpwill said:
That seems to be the way of it :(. Congres has long since enabled the creation of an imperial presidency.
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They certainly have a lot they could have tried to slap back from Barack "I won't take NO for an answer" Obama.
 
Whatever gave anyone the idea Obama cares about laws, we writes his own, to meet what he wants to do.

I liked McCain's response, he would fight like hell to block any funds going to contractors for lawyers or anything else except what is due under contract. He advised the contractors to follow the law and don't expect any help from Obama.
 
Harshaw said:
Let's not forget the War Powers Act for his illegal war in Libya.
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Harshaw said:
No, I'm telling it the way it is; you're just refusing to consider that it's true.
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Yes, I often view posts as opinions, not facts. I see it very differently than you do. But that's cool.
 
Sgt Meowenstein said:
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you know, once upon a time liberals were really incensed about the the idea of the President ignoring the War Powers Act.



guess it turns out that they are really only incensed about other people having power.
 
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