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My thoughts on the upcoming Romney/Obama debate #1_

I'm pretty sure we both know the definition of socialism but I don't think we both know the dangers of where it leads us_

And, I have already stated what I have against socialism in a previous post! \/

Do you seriously not see this happening in this nation of once hardworking industrious Americans that are becoming more and more dependent with each knew government benefit and entitlement?!

I really don't expect you to speak the truth here in a public post but at least admit it to yourself_

Like so many, you are living a lie by hoping and believing in a Utopia that doesn't exist and never will_

Do you even know what socialism is? You also haven't answered any of my questions.

I prefer talking about specific policy, and specific ideas rather than broad ideological words. You need to be specific about what you do and do no like, things aren't black and white and they certainly don't all fit nicely into ideological boxes.

There's on such thing as pure socialism or pure capitalism. Things don't always fall under one of the two categories, and their not always mutually exclusive.
 
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So you're including what? Social Security? Medicare? Military pay? VA benefits? Please be specific.
47% of Americans are receiving government benefits/entitlements in some form or other and growing__That's nearly half the US population, and you don't see a problem?__Clear the Socialist crap from your head for a minute and think!

Social Security is Socialism that is being passed out like cheap candy at Halloween in the form of disability benefits to nearly anyone who applies including people who have never payed a dime into it, even illegal aliens_

Welfare and other "safety nets" are Socialism which destroys self reliance and productivity which was reportedly fixed during the Clinton Administration, even though Slick Willy had to be dragged kicking and screaming into the deal by a republican congress_

Many inner city families have still not recovered from the damage done by this destructive government program to "help" the poor which is now also available to illegal aliens, on the backs of American taxpayers of course_

VA benefits have morphed into Socialism by being overly inclusive to everyone who served in the military in the form of non-connected benefits rather than just those who were directly disabled by their military duties or retirement benefits_

Obamacare is Socialism which will further destroy this nations economy through ever increasing taxes in a desperate attempt to keep up with cost and fraud which has already robbed the elderly of funds from their Medicare and it hasn't even been activated yet_

Corporate Welfare is Socialism which added a trillion bucks to the national debt and is a breeding ground for government corruption through corporate influence and manipulation for which both major political parties are equally guilty_

As I said, "Socialism is like a weed that is never satisfied being restricted to one small corner of a garden__It forever seeks to spread until it consumes the entire crop and destroys the productivity of the garden"__Once initiated, Socialism cannot remain static!

Isn't it odd that anytime someone criticizes "Socialism" the left accuses them of not knowing what it is?!__Like many, you are the victim of a campaign of misinformation by many years of Progressive/Marxist indoctrination, brainwashing and political correctness__Wise up!
 
Isn't it odd that anytime someone criticizes "Socialism" the left accuses them of not knowing what it is?!__Like many, you are the victim of a campaign of misinformation by many years of Progressive/Marxist indoctrination, brainwashing and political correctness__Wise up!

Is it odd that actual socialists don't think this is socialism?
 
Is it odd that actual socialists don't think this is socialism?
In a nation of people who grew up in fear of Communism, it would be "odd" for these ideologues to admit it was "Socialism"_

Their ultimate goal is totality and to appear satisfied might delay or even stall their progress__They're radicals, not idiots_

"Actual Socialists" will never be satisfied until Capitalism is destroyed and a large centralized government controls the economy_

Regardless of their criticism, they would never give up the progress they have made in the struggle for their Socialist Utopian Dream_
 
In a nation of people who grew up in fear of Communism, it would be "odd" for these ideologues to admit it was "Socialism"_

Their ultimate goal is totality and to appear satisfied might delay or even stall their progress__They're radicals, not idiots_

"Actual Socialists" will never be satisfied until Capitalism is destroyed and a large centralized government controls the economy_

Regardless of their criticism, they would never give up the progress they have made in the struggle for their Socialist Utopian Dream_

I want to ask you this. You say Obamacare is socialist. Why is Obamacare socialist and in what ways is Obamacare socialist?
 
I want to ask you this. You say Obamacare is socialist. Why is Obamacare socialist and in what ways is Obamacare socialist?
No offense zstep, but your question is totally asinine___In what way is Obamacare anything but socialist???

Its official classification is Socialized Medicine for christ sake__"Obamacare" is simply a reference to its chief supporter_

socialized medicine - definition of socialized medicine by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

Your denial of the obvious makes me question whether your intellectual aptitude is sufficient to even be discussing this issue_
 
No offense zstep, but your question is totally asinine___In what way is Obamacare anything but socialist???

Its official classification is Socialized Medicine for christ sake__"Obamacare" is simply a reference to its chief supporter_

socialized medicine - definition of socialized medicine by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

Your denial of the obvious makes me question whether your intellectual aptitude is sufficient to even be discussing this issue_

Unfortunately Obamacare is not socialized medicine.
 
No offense zstep, but your question is totally asinine___In what way is Obamacare anything but socialist???

Its official classification is Socialized Medicine for christ sake__"Obamacare" is simply a reference to its chief supporter_

socialized medicine - definition of socialized medicine by the Free Online Dictionary, Thesaurus and Encyclopedia.

Your denial of the obvious makes me question whether your intellectual aptitude is sufficient to even be discussing this issue_

Is Obamacare a single payer system? Are there still private insurance companies, private doctors, and private hospitals?
 
Unfortunately Obamacare is not socialized medicine.
And Illegal Aliens are not illegal aliens but Undocumented Workers_

Who are you kidding Adam; me, the man in the moon or yourself?!

I live in the real world and have not the time nor the desire to play silly liberal word games_
 
And Illegal Aliens are not illegal aliens but Undocumented Workers_

Who are you kidding Adam; me, the man in the moon or yourself?!

I live in the real world and have not the time nor the desire to play silly liberal word games_

A single payer system would be socialized medicine. Obamacare is NOT a single payer system. People are able to choose their own health care coverage.

Obamacare is not socialism.
 
Is Obamacare a single payer system?
"Single Payer" is the ultimate progressive goal for healthcare in America_

Socialism in the United States is implemented in increments and stages_

Are there still private insurance companies, private doctors, and private hospitals?
Their days will be numbered after Obamacare is activated in 2014_

Socialism cannot compete with the private sector, especially at healthcare_

Big Government will regulate them out of business and out of existence_

Unless of course Obamacare is derailed by a change of administrations in November_
 
"Single Payer" is the ultimate progressive goal for healthcare in America_

Socialism in the United States is implemented in increments and stages_

Their days will be numbered after Obamacare is activated in 2014_

Socialism cannot compete with the private sector, especially at healthcare_

Big Government will regulate them out of business and out of existence_

Unless of course Obamacare is derailed by a change of administrations in November_

Now you're back peddling and saying that Obamacare has the potential to become socialist. As of right now, Obamacare is not socialized medicine. You're argument against Obamacare is just speculation, because you're speculating that the next step will be socialism.

And Romneycare is similar to Obamacare.
 
Now you're back peddling and saying that Obamacare has the potential to become socialist. As of right now, Obamacare is not socialized medicine. You're argument against Obamacare is just speculation, because you're speculating that the next step will be socialism.
No, Obamacare is basically Socialism_

And simply because private sector medical care and insurance is currently still available does not change that_

You have been programmed to believe things are what you are told they are rather than what they actually are_

Liberals are very easily manipulated to accept whatever conclusion conforms to the policy they are told to support_

And Romneycare is similar to Obamacare.
IMO, Romneycare is Obamacare, except on a state rather than national level_

ie, Romneycare is basically Socialism, which I don't support on any level_

But I don't live in Massachusetts__(thank god for spelchek)
 
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