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Why is there such a dislike for Obama

Yes, actually you did say that government shouldn't be involved in healthcare, which implies that we should do away with Medicare, Medicaid, and also the VA system.

I don't think the government should be involved in a lot of things, including big pharma. That doesn't mean I don't want the pharmas to stop producing antibiotics.
 
Yes, I realize that the federal government allows these programs. My contention is that they SHOULD not exist because per the language of the constitution, the MAY not exist.

These are congress' legitimate powers. I cannot lay my finger on that power that would allow medicare or medicaid:

Where's the part about abortion??
 
Yes, I realize that the federal government allows these programs. My contention is that they SHOULD not exist because per the language of the constitution, the MAY not exist.

These are congress' legitimate powers. I cannot lay my finger on that power that would allow medicare or medicaid:

Yes, I know what you were saying, but the Supreme Court disagrees with your learned interpretation.
 
Yes, I know what you were saying, but the Supreme Court disagrees with your learned interpretation.

Hey, I never claimed the justices on the supreme court are perfect. I'm just reading the document the same way that the people of the several states who were asked to ratify it read it, without benefit of the supremes telling me what it means. How did they ever know what the heck they were ratifying?
 
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because the question has no importance. The fact is you have used them while whining about legitimate sources. And everyone should be able to point out a fact. They don't require an official arbiter. facts are . . . .well . . . FACTS.

When Joe? You can't back it up, then don't try to use such silliness...

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I dislike Obama because he came out of nowhere and jumped over a lot of good people who paid their dues .He should have waited his turn.He's just a front for some shady people and he is working for them and not the common people.I also think he is a Muslim.God help us.
 
I dislike Obama because he came out of nowhere and jumped over a lot of good people who paid their dues .He should have waited his turn.He's just a front for some shady people and he is working for them and not the common people.I also think he is a Muslim.God help us.

prepare yourself for a barrage of insults from the obama worshipers on this forum.
 
When Joe? You can't back it up, then don't try to use such silliness...

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Again, it doesn't matter when. When you did, you did care at all about bias. You did not care about accuracy.
 
I dislike Obama because he came out of nowhere and jumped over a lot of good people who paid their dues .He should have waited his turn.He's just a front for some shady people and he is working for them and not the common people.I also think he is a Muslim.God help us.

Waited his turn? Who decides whose turn it is? I find this interesting. Should the successful sales person wait his turn before advancing? The birght young computer wiz? So talent and success isn't important, but chronology? Is that your position?

The rest, espeically the Muslim nonsense is prue silliness not really deserving of comment.
 
Again, it doesn't matter when. When you did, you did care at all about bias. You did not care about accuracy.

It does matter. You made an unsubstantiated claim about me personally, as an open attack. Now either back it up, or retract it.

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It does matter. You made an unsubstantiated claim about me personally, as an open attack. Now either back it up, or retract it.

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J, you've used the sources and that's my claim. And you know you have.
 
J, you've used the sources and that's my claim. And you know you have.

Joe we have known each other on political forums for believe it or not for almost 10 years. I gave you the context in which I have used opinions in the past. You are intentionally misrepresenting that, as well as misrepresenting the sources I have used in this thread. Now either answer my request for you to show me where I used AT or NRO in this discussion, or retract your personal attack of me right now.

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Joe we have known each other on political forums for believe it or not for almost 10 years. I gave you the context in which I have used opinions in the past. You are intentionally misrepresenting that, as well as misrepresenting the sources I have used in this thread. Now either answer my request for you to show me where I used AT or NRO in this discussion, or retract your personal attack of me right now.

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Yes, you present opinion as if it were fact. In their opinions, they misrepresent facts, skew facts, and down right lie. And you linked them. That is the context.
 
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