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Why you shouldn't vote for Obama

Jonsa said:
they aren't stock excuses, they are reasons. And youy hear them repeatedly because the right constantly repeats these accusations of failure.

Your excuses amount to...as I said..."it's not MY fault". Obama's used that line ad nauseum.

Excuse me? 20 other US embassies attacked? Must have missed that. I do not minimize recent events in the middle east, I understand them and put them in the proper perspective.

For instance the right is going snaky about the Muslim Brotherhood being elected in Egypt, but seem to ignore that Morsi went on television and basically told everyone to chill out - which they did.

Diplomatic missions attacks

Widespread protests followed screening of excerpts of the trailer in Egypt. Many of the protests were focused on United States embassies and consular posts, with some leading to violent confrontations. Camp Bastion in Afghanistan is not a diplomatic mission but insurgents claiming responsibility had cited the film as the reason for their attack, although it seemed to have been planned in advance, similar to the Benghazi attack.
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see the map at: 2012 diplomatic missions attacks - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The notion that it was Obama's incompetance that got the ambassador killed is simply stupid. The expectation that POTUS would micromanage to the extent that he would know of the movements of one ambassador is unrealistic. It is claimed that the ambassador was concerned about safety, so one has to ask what the heck was he doing in this unofficial consulate and CIA station with so little protection on Sept 11?
Yes of course there were intel reports about possible attacks. By your logic , GW got 3000 americans killed by his own incompetance, since all that intel prior to 9.11 was ignored.

I've never given Bush a pass for the events on 9/11 and I don't think he's ever given himself a pass either. Too bad Obama doesn't have the same sense of responsibility.

Political hackery? I like that. Of course let's ignore the fact that some 30% of republicans think Obama is a kenyan muslim, and 50% think america is becoming a socialist state. and 52% of republicans think Obama wants to bring sharia to america. Now between you and me, that level of utter ignorance within the republican party, does not bode well. One can just imagine their ability to actually discern appropriate economic and monetary policies, realpolitik, healthcare, and the myriad of other complex challenges the country faces.

so if you wish to call that hackery, then sobeit. I like to think that I generally offer informed opinion, even if rather acerbically delivered.
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Your numbers are irrelevant. If they were not, then we would have to agree that liberals have no ability to govern because approximately 100% of them believe Bush lied.

So, yeah...I'd say you are employing political hackery quite well.
 
Interesting that you cannot discern the difference between an excuse and a reason.

As for the muslims attacking US embassies, there are 1.3 billion muslims in the world and yet the protests in most cases were less than 500 protesters.
Surprisingly little damage other than Libya. Of course there couldn't possibly be a % of muslims who hate the US for its history of heavy handedness in the region and its bias towards Israel. There's a lot of pakistanis that hate the US, but that could simply be the repeated violations of their sovereignty with drones and a literal invasion to ice Binnie. For some reason, some americans don't think their crap stinks and that everyone else in the world that doesn't kiss ass is a radical terrorist scumbag. Tar the muslim world because a small bunch of radicals can incite a mob by perverting a religion. I can think of numerous centuries where a small bunch of christian radicals perverted a religion to incite mobs, wars and witchhunts.

Mycroft said:

Your numbers are irrelevant. If they were not, then we would have to agree that liberals have no ability to govern because approximately 100% of them believe Bush lied.

So, yeah...I'd say you are employing political hackery quite well.
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No, my numbers are not irrelevant. they are entirely germane. Face it, a very large percentage of republicans are ignorant. I agree that a large numbero f democrats are ignorant too, but they at least don't believe in stupid fear mongering nonsense designed to de-legitimize POTUS.

Nice nonsensical piece of "logic" about democrats. Bush didn't lie, he just didn't tell the truth. Big difference I know.

As for hackery, I am beginning to see a pattern emerge in your responses. Could it merely be another example of right wing projection?
 
Look here, no president has ever been able to keep all promises made. Why make President Obama an exception? It appears from a respondent that racism is unfortunately alive and well in the good ol' USA!

Here are perfect reasons NOT to vote for Romney:

He disdains 47% of all Americans. I'm disdained because I am not a white male not in the socioeconomic class he belongs to. That is a BIG reason for me not to vote for the guy!

His missteps strongly suggests he is rash. Do you want this fellow to get us into another war?

He really has not at all articulated what his real goals are. I don't like the idea of voting for someone who will not tell me details of his goals.

The economy is rebounding although some people may not think that way. After four years I am not worse off and only somewhat better off.

What he has said thus far about the economy appears to be a rehash of old Republican Party platforms that helped to get us in the economic mess that the current president inherited.

I believe that a gaffe is defined as when someone unintentionally tells the truth. He has made far too many of them.

This fellow does not give me a good feel as to who he really is and what he stands for.

A big factor in President Obama's failure lies on the lap of the Republican Party who has made a policy to get him out of the presidency. The Republicans are obstructionists. It appears their true loyalty is to the Party rather than America. What is good for GM may not necessarily be good for the USA.

Thus far he appears to be a one issue candidate. It appears that equally critical issues such as foreign policy, social policy, women's rights, social security/medicare are simply distractions according to the Republicans.

It appears he may endorse Todd Akin. Remember him? The fellow who said rape can be legitimate? This fellow sounds like someone from the Stone Age. Worse, may even have the same mindset as the extremists from that certain religion.

I say let us give President Obama the chance to complete the work he has done.
 
sorry if the above got duplicated!
 
Hmmmm... could racism be alive and well in the good ol' USA?

I will not vote for Romney the chief reason among others being that I belong to that class of people who he, as a member of the 1%, is contemptuous of.

And the Republican Party has become extremist. Like the extremists of that certain religion.
 
Mycroft said:
The fact that her opinions agree with what you say Fox puts out doesn't mean she didn't arrive at them on her own.

Anyway, you dismiss her views because you dismiss Fox's views. That's okay. But your tactic of insulting her because her views agree with Fox's is disgusting. You should be ashamed of yourself, dude.
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Thanks for totally failing to read anything I actually wrote.

Par for your course Mycroft.

While I would say your reasons, in my opinion, are idiotic...I would never insult you by saying you are just parroting ______.

But then, that's why I'm a reasonable person...and you are not.
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Except that you can't find a mainstream media outlet that actually says that. You can however, find Fox news that says exactly what Mya did.
 
Mycroft said:
It is quite obvious that Obama has failed in realizing these important promises. I agree with Mr. Bennett...you should not vote for Obama.
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Explaining why I shouldn't vote for Obama is one thing, but the fact of the matter is that if I don't vote for Obama, I'm essentially voting for Romney. As such, it would be like having to either cut off my leg, or cut off my arm; then writing an article about how useless my leg is and why I should cut it off. Although I will admit that my leg's super PAC just received an enormous donation from Bill Maher and their "don't cut your leg off in midstream" advertisement may be subconsciously affecting my opinion.
 
Mustachio said:
Explaining why I shouldn't vote for Obama is one thing, but the fact of the matter is that if I don't vote for Obama, I'm essentially voting for Romney. As such, it would be like having to either cut off my leg, or cut off my arm; then writing an article about how useless my leg is and why I should cut it off. Although I will admit that my leg's super PAC just received an enormous donation from Bill Maher and their "don't cut your leg off in midstream" advertisement may be subconsciously affecting my opinion.
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To use your analogy, what we need is a brain transplant because the brain we got now is too dumb and inexperienced to run our body.
 
Jonsa said:
Interesting that you cannot discern the difference between an excuse and a reason.

As for the muslims attacking US embassies, there are 1.3 billion muslims in the world and yet the protests in most cases were less than 500 protesters.
Surprisingly little damage other than Libya. Of course there couldn't possibly be a % of muslims who hate the US for its history of heavy handedness in the region and its bias towards Israel. There's a lot of pakistanis that hate the US, but that could simply be the repeated violations of their sovereignty with drones and a literal invasion to ice Binnie. For some reason, some americans don't think their crap stinks and that everyone else in the world that doesn't kiss ass is a radical terrorist scumbag. Tar the muslim world because a small bunch of radicals can incite a mob by perverting a religion. I can think of numerous centuries where a small bunch of christian radicals perverted a religion to incite mobs, wars and witchhunts.



No, my numbers are not irrelevant. they are entirely germane. Face it, a very large percentage of republicans are ignorant. I agree that a large numbero f democrats are ignorant too, but they at least don't believe in stupid fear mongering nonsense designed to de-legitimize POTUS.

Nice nonsensical piece of "logic" about democrats. Bush didn't lie, he just didn't tell the truth. Big difference I know.

As for hackery, I am beginning to see a pattern emerge in your responses. Could it merely be another example of right wing projection?
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Are you sure you want to keep making these kinds of statements? They are sooo easy to shove back down your throat, you know.

Just giving you a chance before I do.
 
Glowpun said:
1. Look here, no president has ever been able to keep all promises made. Why make President Obama an exception?

2. It appears from a respondent that racism is unfortunately alive and well in the good ol' USA!

~snipped the Romney stuff because it's off-topic~

3. I don't like the idea of voting for someone who will not tell me details of his goals.

4. The economy is rebounding although some people may not think that way. After four years I am not worse off and only somewhat better off.

~snipped some more~

5. A big factor in President Obama's failure lies on the lap of the Republican Party who has made a policy to get him out of the presidency. The Republicans are obstructionists. It appears their true loyalty is to the Party rather than America. What is good for GM may not necessarily be good for the USA.

~snipped some more~

I say let us give President Obama the chance to complete the work he has done.
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1. Obama has not only not kept the promises he made, he downright broke promises and when asked about it, ignores the questions. But that's not the worst of it...the things he's done have either been utter failures or made things worse.

2. Then maybe you should address the person who made that remark. We do have a nice quote system in this forum. Beats cluttering things up...requiring snips.

3. I had to leave this "Romney-ism" in here because it begs the question: You won't be voting for Obama either, then?

4. This economy is rebounding about as well as a soggy meatball. You should consider yourself one of the lucky ones. There are millions who are not. Thanks to Obama.

5. The Republicans have done us a service by opposing Obama...whatever their motivations. Without them, our deficit spending and our debt would be much worse, our taxes would be higher and our economy would be backsliding.

I say give Obama the boot and put a capable, proven leader in charge.
 
Mycroft said:
To use your analogy, what we need is a brain transplant because the brain we got now is too dumb and inexperienced to run our body.
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And to further that analogy, might I mention that brain transplants don't work
 
Mycroft said:
Are you sure you want to keep making these kinds of statements? They are sooo easy to shove back down your throat, you know.

Just giving you a chance before I do.
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OOOhhhh. Tell ya what - take your best shot. I enjoy introducing people to reality.
 
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