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Why Romney Is Losing

Barack Obama to be re-elected President in 2012
76.5%
CHANCE
Last prediction was: $7.65 / share
Today's Change: +$0.11 (+1.5%)

Mitt Romney to be elected President in 2012
23.5%
CHANCE
Last prediction was: $2.35 / share
Today's Change: -$0.11 (-4.5%)

A vote for Romney will be more wasted than a vote for Johnson. With Johnson, you MIGHT encourage some moderation among the Democraps. Just my IMHO of course.
 
And the article makes an excellent case that Romney has lost, not so much because of his gaffes, but because he is doubling down on some of the same Bush policies that got us into this mess in the first place. That might be good for the base, but you don't win with the base. You win with Independents.

So now, let's see what happens in 2016. Stick a fork in Republican chances to take back the White House this year. It is done.

Article is here.

I am not excited for this election, I am excited for 2016 because there is a possibility for real candidates. This election has been the most negative and least promising in recent years, I am just ready to get it over with and cross my fingers that whoever wins does not get us in deeper then we already are.
 
i just saw this today :

Romney: Massachusetts health care law is proof of empathy - First Read

the quote :

"I think throughout this campaign as well, we talked about my record in Massachusetts, don't forget -- I got everybody in my state insured," Romney told NBC's Ron Allen in an interview before his rally here tonight. "One hundred percent of the kids in our state had health insurance. I don't think there's anything that shows more empathy and care about the people of this country than that kind of record."

un.
be.
lievable.
 
Nope. I think Obama will do that.

But that is a different question as to whether or not excitement for 2012 in Democrat voters is the same as 2008. In 2008 Republicans were depressed, in 2010, they were fervent; now they are somewhere in between. But some of these polls argue that Democrats are now even more excited than they were in 2012, whereas Republicans have fallen below 2008 levels. That doesn't make any sense.

But but, the GOP was not depressed in 2008. The Palin effect and Tea Party race baiting brought out the GOP in droves. What lost you the election was that it drove the independents away from the right towards Obama.
 
I suspect Romney is losing because many people have made the determination that America would be worse with him at the helm.

It is that simple.
 
That is exactly right. The Republicans have learned nothing and they think that's okay.

Not true. The Republicans have just learned about digital video technology.
 
The liberals on this board seem to think that merely repeating something enough times makes it the truth. They also enjoy a sort of selective denial when it comes to trends and recent history. Obama is in big trouble and his supporters are the only ones who don't see it. Once in the privacy of a voting booth people are not going to worry about what is and isn't politically correct, they're going to worry about high gas prices, no job, and a national debt so high that 20 generations won't be able to pay it off.

That's why they'll vote for Obama, since they know that romney admitted he doesn't care about all those middle class concerns.

After they vote for Obama, they can tell their right-wing drinking buddies they voted for Romney.
 
It's not hopeless for Romney. All he has to do is eat at Chick-Fil-A at least once to show he cares about the 47%. Can he do it?
 
well, do you think that the democrat advantage in 2012 will be greater or equal to the democrat advantage in 2008?


Neither, the democrats didnt have an advantage going into this election. Obama should have been dead meat and all things considered he should be so far behind any republican candidate right now he could never catch up....Obama was truly easy pickins....The far right mentality and agenda did this all by itself. Of course there will be strong denials and the far right will blame Romney for not being FAR RIGHT ENOUGH....lol....imagine that.
The far right shoved the wonder boy ryan down romneys throat and hes gone nothing but down since...ryan destroyed him...
 
And the article makes an excellent case that Romney has lost, not so much because of his gaffes, but because he is doubling down on some of the same Bush policies that got us into this mess in the first place. That might be good for the base, but you don't win with the base. You win with Independents.

So now, let's see what happens in 2016. Stick a fork in Republican chances to take back the White House this year. It is done.

Article is here.

You do realize the fact that the poll you're referencing changed from a tie to a 6 point lead (which is essentially only a 3pt change) in 6 days...

6 DAYS!!!

All you've illustrated is how fluctuating and unreliable public opinion polls are...

Seeing as the Debates have been known to have effects on these very polls... and we have over a month still to do... I think it's safe to say don't count your perpetual state of negativity until it hatches...
 
I think it will be about the same. Can't say the same for 2014, which is the year I predict the GOP takes the Senate.

what makes you think that democrat excitement is going to match the nirvanic highs' of 2008?
 
But but, the GOP was not depressed in 2008. The Palin effect and Tea Party race baiting brought out the GOP in droves. What lost you the election was that it drove the independents away from the right towards Obama.

The Tea Party election was 2010. The GOP was absolutely depressed in 2008, with a candidate that conservatives didn't like, weariness with an unpopular Bush administration, and the inevitability of an Obama win.
 
liberals are claiming he is losing in an attempt to suppress voting. Purist conservative crybabies are claiming he is losing because they are mad that their candidate didn't win and they want Obama to win so they can whine next time that a more pure candidate would be better. McCain-a pathetic candidate lost ohio by 5%. to claim Obama is winning here by 10% is pure horse crap

You again underestimate the intelligence of voters. Romney is much more unappealing than McCain and Ryan's legs can't hold a candle to Sarah's.
He's like a Mormon version of GW but without the Texas drawl or "folksy" appeal. And his policies suck for most voters.
 
You again underestimate the intelligence of voters. Romney is much more unappealing than McCain and Ryan's legs can't hold a candle to Sarah's.
He's like a Mormon version of GW but without the Texas drawl or "folksy" appeal. And his policies suck for most voters.

We'll see come November... Oh boy will we see.
 
Editors of the National Review echo the OP:


...What Romney has not done is address the major problem he has in making the case: the shadow of the George W. Bush years. Americans are more likely to blame Bush for the financial crisis that started on his watch than to blame Obama for the slow recovery from it. And even before the financial crisis, the last period of Republican governance was not especially good for America’s middle class. Wages were flat for people in the middle of the income spectrum even when the economy was growing.

The Romney campaign acknowledges that the crisis began before Obama took office, but it has next to nothing to say about what Bush-era Republicans got wrong. The result is that Romney appears to be saying that everything was going swimmingly until Obama came along. That impression lends credence to Obama’s attempt to portray Romney as running for Bush’s third term. Romney’s silence about the errors of the Bush years is, on the other hand, understandable, since many Republicans continue to hold Bush in high esteem as a good man who tried to do a lot of good things. Since most Americans consider Bush a failure, Romney cannot embrace him either. So Bush has been an awkward non-presence in the campaign: the man who was not there.

Instead of an explicit repudiation or an embrace, Romney needs to move beyond the controversies of the Bush era. To do that, he has to alter his critique of Obama. What Romney should say is that our country has problems that have been building since long before Obama took office, and that what’s wrong with Obama is that he has either left them unaddressed or made them worse. The country’s looming debt crisis, its dysfunctional health-care system, and its irrational tax code are three of them. Romney will take on those challenges head-on. Those are the ideas he has been running on, after all....
 
I don't think we should call an election so soon, especially before the debates. Wasn't Reagan in a similar polling situation at this time when he ran against Carter?
 
It's almost like you are rooting for obama to win. The polls are heavily oversampling dem's based on voter turnout in 08 but but the pollsters and you libs may be in for a big surprise. The polls showed Walker was in a very tight race, he won in a land slide.:)

The OP is marked as "conservative", though it raises questions. But somehow I don't think the rhetoric here is "independent".
 
by the time we have reaching voting age, most of us have encountered those who aspire to positions of authority, but who are unable to articulate how they plan to use that authority once it is passed to them
romney epitomizes that person

but those people often get elected. because, when times are not optimistic, we want change ... change we can believe in
what has romeny offered us to believe he will offer us chances of a better change when compared to the candidate we elected in 2008, the fellow who has so disappointed many of us

a Gary Johnson, hell, even a condi rice, would have given us a viable alternative, but the republicans went with their most moderate candidate, who sealed his fate - and his ties to the reich wing - when he chose ryan as his running mate

like the democrats who ran gore and kerry and dukakis, and the republicans with dole, the GOP simply selected the wrong candidate to be able to win

Most moderate? OMG this is exactly why the Republicans are losing Romney is WAY far to the right. You guys need to move to the center not further off into la la land.

It boggles my mind why Romney tries to come of more to the right than he even is (based off of what he's done in the past).

Do you guys realize the demographics is this:

1. there are more Democrats than Republicans
2. Republicans are more reliable party line voters overall than Democrats

So the strategy for Republicans is not to move far to the right off the charts, it's go as far left as they can get away with and attempt to somehow reach middle from there.
 
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You sound like a deranged spouse threatening suicide.

No, just a person who is confident that the American people are smart enough not to reelect a presidential failure.
 
No, just a person who is confident that the American people are smart enough not to reelect a presidential failure.

Yes Obama failed miserably to retrain your foolish ideology and put us in a 2nd recession.
 
No, just a person who is confident that the American people are smart enough not to reelect a presidential failure.

The are not stupid and they won't switch horses in the middle of a recovery. Certainly not for Bush's 3rd term. Someday you might understand where you went wrong.

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