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Romney's lean, mean Medicaid plans for nursing home residents

Yes Romney wants to give up power to his own party back in the states.. because he knows, just as the top of the GOP knows, they will have a harder time getting the White House. So to maintain a powerbase the GOP wants things done in states.. the same states that fought the end of segregation, slavery and so on.. The same states where GOP members have attempted to ban books, to promote anti-science agendas and worse.

Not that this move will help him get power any time soon. If anything he needs the older population to vote for him in droves, and yet he is barely beating Obama on this front as it is. Saying that he will cut or move help to the elderly is... not good politics in an election year.

Right......


So, tell us again, what was your opinion of the Obama administration giving the states' the ability to alter the work requirements in welfare reform?

Seriously, this is conspiracy theory logic. :roll:
 
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The only reason the right wants medicaid moved to the state level is it has the best chance to die at the state level. The right WANTS to get rid of medicaid all together.

I'm always amazed by the number of leftists who implicitly claim the ability to read minds.


No, TNE, the reason we want to bloc-grant Medicaid is to make that program better by enabling reforms that strengthen the program and make it better for the poor.
 
Me and my husband were talking about that this morning. Looking back and seeing the changes to the different parties is an interesting study. I think Lincoln would roll over in his grave if he could see what the Republican Party has become.

well the Republican slogan in that era was "Free Men, Free Soil" - the advocation that mankind should have maximum ability to act without government coercion so long as they did not infringe on the rights of others, and that the natural extension of this was the free market.

But perhaps you can enlighten me what about Abraham Lincoln would be anathema to the party today.
 
Why would you want to live in a state where everyone hates you and wants to see you dead? Isn't that the implication of your question? Obviously moving is an extreme example based on the assumption that the service would be inferior. Why do you assume that the service would be inferior? Who says that it is that good now? There is no reason that it couldn't also be better since it would be better tailored to the citizens of the state. Delaware's needs are quite different from Wyoming.

I wasn't aware the people living in Wyoming were a different species from those living in Delaware.
 
well the Republican slogan in that era was "Free Men, Free Soil" - the advocation that mankind should have maximum ability to act without government coercion so long as they did not infringe on the rights of others, and that the natural extension of this was the free market.

But perhaps you can enlighten me what about Abraham Lincoln would be anathema to the party today.

Well, one thing Lincoln wanted was an infrastucture, and the Republicans have voted against rebuilding the infrastructure. He was also one who saw the union as something that needed to be protected. Ryan isn't helping to unite the union by classifying Americans as makers and takes. Also, Lincoln was not an elitist. The GOP has become the party of protection for the wealthy class. Thats just a few examples for you to think about.
 
The more I get into what romney is about the less I like him...


As the presidential campaign unfolds, the differences in approaches to Medicare by President Barack Obama and Republican nominee Mitt Romney have taken center stage. But what is getting far less scrutiny: Romney's plans for Medicaid. He would convert the health care program for the poor, disabled and elderly into a block grant to the states and sharply reduce funding over time. Middle-class Americans should be especially wary, since it's Medicaid, not Medicare, that covers nursing home care for aged and infirm parents and grandparents. Without Medicaid's safety net, it isn't clear what those Americans would do, and Romney doesn't have any good answers


Romney's lean, mean Medicaid plans for nursing home residents - Tampa Bay Times

Medicare will cover up to the first 6 months in the nursing home if the doctor admits them correctly as a rehab patient and their illness warrants rehab efforts. Rehab being the ability to go to the bathroom, feed yourself, and walk some mostly. Just if you know anybody heading that way, tell them to make sure they get admitted as a rehab patient and to impress upon the doctor your desire to keep them on that status way as long as possible.
 
Well, one thing Lincoln wanted was an infrastucture, and the Republicans have voted against rebuilding the infrastructure.

Republicans have no problem with infrastructure. We do not like pork projects or stimulus attempts masquerading as "infrastructure". But perhaps you can point to specific infrastructural issues that Lincoln supported as a critical matter that Republicans have rejected as a function of government?

He was also one who saw the union as something that needed to be protected. Ryan isn't helping to unite the union by classifying Americans as makers and takes

:lol: :) Firstly, the person who is making dividing Americans a key portion of his campaign is the President. From the war on women, to hispanics needing to punish their enemies, to the class warfare, to 'putting ya'll back in chains' etc. so on and so forth.

Secondly, here is Lincoln on this issue:
Abraham Lincoln said:
"No country can sustain, in idleness, more than a small percentage of its numbers. The great majority must labor at something productive."

"Upon this subject, the habits of our whole species fall into three great classes---useful labour, useless labour and idleness. Of these the first only is meritorious; and to it all the products of labour rightfully belong; but the two latter, while they exist, are heavy pensioners upon the first, robbing it of a large portion of it's just rights. The only remedy for this is to, as far as possible, drive useless labour and idleness out of existence."

Also, Lincoln was not an elitist. The GOP has become the party of protection for the wealthy class.

That is incorrect - in fact the GOP is currently winning the middle class - it is the Democrats who win upper income earners and the wealthiest counties in this country are deep blue. But it's funny to watch you accuse the GOP of trying to divide the country by maker/taker designations, and then try to do the same thing in reverse later in the same post :).
 
Medicare will cover up to the first 6 months in the nursing home if the doctor admits them correctly as a rehab patient and their illness warrants rehab efforts. Rehab being the ability to go to the bathroom, feed yourself, and walk some mostly. Just if you know anybody heading that way, tell them to make sure they get admitted as a rehab patient and to impress upon the doctor your desire to keep them on that status way as long as possible.


Heres the problem...what happens when they can be no longer rehabbed and can no longer be on their own and have no one that can take care of them and they have NO MONEY.....thats what medicaid does for Seniors....let me explain some facts to you.
I paid 7,000 a month several yrs ago for my father to be in assisted living....he was fortunate I could afford that...I paid that for nearly 4 yrs before he became wheelchair bound and to weak. He needed to be dressed and have his behind wiped. My father lived like that for 2 yrs..I could not keep him at my home...he needed professional care. There are Millions of seniors like this...Nursing home costs are Horrific and only the very rich can afford them....thats what medicaid does for MIDDLECLASS americans that live to long and exhaust everything they have in the process...middle class and down....If you are truly middle middle class and make 150k a yr and you live to long trust me your going on medicaid in the end.
Romeny and Ryan and the far right suck in my opinion and the more right they go the more left I go...and the more I dislike their entire agenda and personna..
 
Republicans have no problem with infrastructure. We do not like pork projects or stimulus attempts masquerading as "infrastructure". But perhaps you can point to specific infrastructural issues that Lincoln supported as a critical matter that Republicans have rejected as a function of government?

:lol: :) Firstly, the person who is making dividing Americans a key portion of his campaign is the President. From the war on women, to hispanics needing to punish their enemies, to the class warfare, to 'putting ya'll back in chains' etc. so on and so forth.

Secondly, here is Lincoln on this issue:

That is incorrect - in fact the GOP is currently winning the middle class - it is the Democrats who win upper income earners and the wealthiest counties in this country are deep blue. But it's funny to watch you accuse the GOP of trying to divide the country by maker/taker designations, and then try to do the same thing in reverse later in the same post :).

The republican's blocked the infrastructure bill that would have put people to work and rebuilt our crumbling infrastruture. There is a real need to get our infrastructure back up to code.
I disagree that Obama is dividing this country. The GOP has been trying to enact laws that would force women to have medical procedures that are not needed in order to get an abortion. There where female members of the GOP that called for the GOP to stop it's war on Women. Romney showed his contempt for the 47% that do not pay income taxes by claiming they do not take responsibility for their own lives. I have yet to hear Obama say anything that would amount to class warfare.
The GOP are not doing all that well with the middle class.
As for what Lincoln said, I have no clue what that has to do with his topic.
 
I was just trying to let people know that medicare will pay for 6 months if you do it right. It is rather new thing and for some that 6 months might be enough to keep the house, not have to spend-down, etc.
 
The republican's blocked the infrastructure bill that would have put people to work and rebuilt our crumbling infrastruture. There is a real need to get our infrastructure back up to code.

"the" infrastructure bill? No. They blocked a bill that was labeled infrastructure. No one has a problem with infrastructure. Republicans have a problem with state giveaways and pork that is labeled infrastructure. The Transportation Bill, which sadly contained far too much of the latter, did, in fact, contain enough of the former and so it passed.

I disagree that Obama is dividing this country.

Then you haven't been paying attention to Mr-Hispanics-Need-To-Punish-Their-Enemies

The GOP has been trying to enact laws that would force women to have medical procedures that are not needed in order to get an abortion.

And Democrats spent their entire convention screaming about abortion and the mythical war on women.

Romney showed his contempt for the 47% that do not pay income taxes by claiming they do not take responsibility for their own lives.

that is not accurate, as that was an "or" list rather than an "and" list. Nor is stating that 47% don't pay income taxes comparable to seceding from the Union.

The GOP are not doing all that well with the middle class.

Politico: Romney holds a 14 point advantage among middle class families

As for what Lincoln said, I have no clue what that has to do with his topic.

Lincoln's arguments are in alignment with current Republican arguments.
 
"the" infrastructure bill? No. They blocked a bill that was labeled infrastructure. No one has a problem with infrastructure. Republicans have a problem with state giveaways and pork that is labeled infrastructure. The Transportation Bill, which sadly contained far too much of the latter, did, in fact, contain enough of the former and so it passed.

Then you haven't been paying attention to Mr-Hispanics-Need-To-Punish-Their-Enemies

And Democrats spent their entire convention screaming about abortion and the mythical war on women.

that is not accurate, as that was an "or" list rather than an "and" list. Nor is stating that 47% don't pay income taxes comparable to seceding from the Union.

Politico: Romney holds a 14 point advantage among middle class families

Lincoln's arguments are in alignment with current Republican arguments.

I don't see that giving states money to rebuild the infrastructure is state giveaways. That being said, the Republicans called the stimulus state giveaways and they were against it while they were holding their hands out to take money in for their states. Republicans have a problem with anything Obama proposes, even when Obama proposes republican ideas.

I have no idea what you're talking about when you say Hispanics need to punish their enemies. Ryan is talking about the makers and takers, a comment that was designed to divid the classes.

There is no mythical war on women. The GOP has been trying to get legislation passed to control women's reproductive health. I watched the DNC. It wasn't all about abortion or women's rights. That is your opinion.

I was very accurate on Romney's comment on the 47%. I also disagree that the GOP reflects Lincoln's arguments.
 
:lol: yes, the problem being that if you are going to claim that.... you have to actually demonstrate it. ;)
 
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