Yes, he did say what you claim he said. Just after he said this: There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what. All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe that government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you name it.
That's not the truth, that's a lie, and you know it, I know it, and Mitt knows it. Just read that again. 47% of Americans see themselves as victims and are dependent on the government? Check out that handy pie chart posted earlier in the thread.
Oh, it's probably like 75% of Americans feel like victims... you're right, if that's what his measurment was he was selling it way short...
Again, the question was conveniently left out of the video released... so we don't fully know what he is answering in full context... all we can do is guess...
What it appears is that he is discussion the percentages of support for either party... and that 47% support the issues that the president, the democrats, and liberals all support... a number of them are the ones he highlighted...
Then he said, we have to worry about getting the support from the independents rather than trying to change the minds of those who support liberal ideals... That's just the reality of the situation...
Correlation, not causation. And I'm not aware of any evidence that backs up your claim, but I'll buy it until I find out it's garbage. Anyway, maybe people who have the better SAT scores (or in my case, the ACT) come from wealthy families. I'm just generalizing also, but it makes sense. Those who grow up around money and good neighborhoods have more opportunities than the kids living in Hooverville. There's a great British documentary called Up which examines the point I just made. Check it out, bro.
Unlike the dreamworld... in this case we are dealing with causation, not correlation... since you are required to have masters degrees in most of the high salary fields...
Think of the fields with high salaries, and tell me you arent dealing with people who put extra time into education...
Doctors, Lawyers, Business Managers, Medical Research, Accounting, Information Technology, Engineers, etc.
Education pays
Median Annual Income, by Level of Education, 1990–2009 — Infoplease.com
Education Pays: Income by Education Level (2011 Update) « Soc101
The SAT (and yes ACT) stat holds true as well...
The Correlation Between Income and SAT Scores » Sociological Images
SAT Scores and Family Income - NYTimes.com
How Much Is A High SAT Worth? Up To $100K In Future Earnings - Forbes
http://digitalcommons.iwu.edu/cgi/v...at+score#search="average salary by sat score"
Like I said... this aint the Captian's special recipe or the secret ingredient in DR Pepper...
If you study hard, and put the time in, and do well in school, you're more than likely to get ahead... The converse is true as well... if you mess up, don't pay attention to school, and don't seek higher education, you're far more likely to struggle to get by...
This isn't a rigged society, just those who fail tend to not value education, the rule of law, and responsible living choices...
Those who chose to see themselves as victims are doing just that... chosing to see themselves as victims rather than putting the effort in to reap the reward...
Or you might struggle because you go to work one day and a cyst ruptures in your leg causing excruciating pain, financial problems, ongoing health problems and the potential loss of sensation in your foot for the rest of your life. I'm in that 47% and I valued my education, lived responsibly, and I definitely work hard. Some people have medical problems, such as myself and my cyst, but more importantly, some want to help people with their lives. My grandmother worked with social services, making barely anything but it was important to her.
And your point is? I'm sorry about your cyst and all... but, that anecdote does nothing to change the situation... The overwhelming majority of those people all fall within that 47%... Including the ones who had cysts that burst... Social Workers... same thing... most social workers are heavily liberal backers of social programs... We aren't breaking out of the motivation of the 47% or an additional portion of the independents...
(also, don't act like there aren't numerous people who overcome ailments, injuries, and paralyzation to find decent employment either...)
What programs? I don't have access to any programs and I have horrendous health problems. Disability is extremely difficult to get, as is welfare and unemployment to various degrees. Food stamps are the only thing that's not too challenging to get. I'd favor tax cuts for everybody if we weren't trillions of dollars in debt. Decreasing revenues with our federal spending is a dumb idea, because programs like Social Security are wonderful resources to ensure that all Americans can seek the pursuit of happiness. That's what America stands for if you ask me
Pfff... they hand out disability left and right where I live, perhaps you are getting the raw deal...
SSDI is a regular for inner city people, who just apply, and suggest a mental health illness they're aware of, and end up getting it...
Food Stamps are easy to get, a fairly decent program, and the only things I complain about with them, is that they're very relaxed with the work requirement, and that they kick you off so quickly when you do get work...
There are numerous programs that are out there... The best ones are usually private employment and private charity... but there's a mountain of government programs, like HUD, Section 8, SNAP, etc. ... Yes, they're becoming harder to get for the people who have found real hardship, and yet easier to come by for the same types of people who regularly end up on them... namely black females who had children out of wedlock... It's not exclusive to them, but they continue to make up a greater portion of them annually...
Just another reason why the Safety Net programs need to be revised... so that they're a Safety Net and not a coddling sling for those who chose to continually live irresponsibly and beyond their means...
Trust me, I know... I've been through all this... In 2009, I was without work or unemployment benefits, living in a homeless shelter, with pending criminal charges, and all I got on was food stamps... I was kicked off them after just 2 months when I got a p/t $10 seasonal summer job... It also shows, though, that someone who is on them can easily get off of them, if they wanted to... Working my behind off for $10 was tough, but I did it, to get back on my feet today...
I'm no one special... If I could do it, they can too... So, I don't want to hear a damn thing about the troubles of the workers, the poor, those who have come upon hardship... blah blah blah...
The difference between why I got back on my feet, and why the ones that didn't are still where they are, is because they didn't work hard, live responsibly, and increase their education/work skills...