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Conservatives out of line on mideast unrest.

code1211 said:
Um...

The issue was forcing the Catholic Church to pay for birth control and abortion through the health insurance. This is a violation of it's dogma as it interprets birth control as murder and it is prohibited in that sense by the word of God.

Do you really not understand this?
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Oh the outrage of controception. Put a little rubber device on your penis and the Catholic church is outraged. If they are outraged by something as common sence as controception then they need to be outraged all the time. Remember it was Catholic outrage that caused the inquizition and the crusades so lets be glad they don't have that kind of power now.
 
James D Hill said:
I am getting sick of FOX news trying to say the unrest in the Islamic world is due to weakness in Obama's forein policy. How is it the President is responsible for some film maker making an anti Islamic movie?

Mitt Romney looked like a fool by jumping on Obama before he had all the facts and the lapdogs on FOX look like morons when they try to say the President is always apoligizing for the Bush years. Are they thin skinned or what? What is wrong with saying you are sorry in the first place. I used to say sorry before I punched some bully in the nose. I would say sorry but you brought it on yourself.

The fact is this is a bad situation and it would not have mattered who was in office. The conservatives need to get off their cowboy kick and come back to reality. No matter how tough and John Wayne like the President talks does make a differance to religous fanatics. Conservatives need to stop fishing for outrage. It is making them loook stupid.

Now you all know why we can never let religous conservatives take over in this country. Just look at the Islamic world and see how hierarchy works. Shria law is just old testiment law. You know stoning people for adultry,prostitution,homosexual sex and anything else considered sin. With fanatics anything is possible just look at the abortion doctor murders.
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The repubs need to keep pounding away on the middle east. They are losing ground and have to keep this going now that there are only 40 some days left until the election.
 
CJ 2.0 said:
Because the President's entuire foreign policy has been a disaster of philosophy, design and execution, and this is a glaring example of exactly how it has failed. Obama's foreign policy "resets" have made things worse. He screwed up ther attempted revol,t in Iran by doing nothing and he screwed up the Arab spring by allowing things to proceed to qwuickly with Egyptian elections (guaranteeing extremist Islamist victory). He then did nothing when the MB staged their little coup by ignoring the judiciary and drafting the constitution themselves.

His entire world view, particularly where it comes to the Middle East, is fundamentally wrong. He screwed up the Israel-Palestinian track to an unparalleled degree by creating daylight with Israel and causing the PA to back further into their intractable demands. He has been signularly unsuccessful with his silly "dialoguing" with Iran and any subsequent policies (which have not done anything to deny the Iranians nuclear weapons), he has demonstrated that non-democratic allies of the US get less support and less deference than non-democratic opponents of the U.S. (witness his tepid reaction to uprisings in Syria and Iran and compare to Egypt or finally compliant Libya).

Oh, and he lost the war in Afghanistan.

The only thing more of a failure than Obama's domestic policy is Obama's foreign policy.
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Your view doesn't show much awareness of reality. Do you really think Obama could prevent the Arab Spring? What was he supposed to do? Send ground troops to Egypt, and Yemen, and Syria, and on and on? Absurd. Even if it was feasible, which it wasn't, do you really think we should be in the business of helping dictators smash popular, democratic revolts? That's not a good long-term plan.

Libya was done brilliantly. We helped get rid of a nutjob, terrorist supporting dictator and didn't suffer a single casualty in the process. Unfortunately we lost our ambassodor and several others recently, but that brings the total head count to what? Three? Contrast that with Iraq and Afghanistan....
 
James D Hill said:
I am getting sick of FOX news trying to say the unrest in the Islamic world is due to weakness in Obama's forein policy. How is it the President is responsible for some film maker making an anti Islamic movie?

Mitt Romney looked like a fool by jumping on Obama before he had all the facts and the lapdogs on FOX look like morons when they try to say the President is always apoligizing for the Bush years. Are they thin skinned or what? What is wrong with saying you are sorry in the first place. I used to say sorry before I punched some bully in the nose. I would say sorry but you brought it on yourself.

The fact is this is a bad situation and it would not have mattered who was in office. The conservatives need to get off their cowboy kick and come back to reality. No matter how tough and John Wayne like the President talks does make a differance to religous fanatics. Conservatives need to stop fishing for outrage. It is making them loook stupid.

Now you all know why we can never let religous conservatives take over in this country. Just look at the Islamic world and see how hierarchy works. Shria law is just old testiment law. You know stoning people for adultry,prostitution,homosexual sex and anything else considered sin. With fanatics anything is possible just look at the abortion doctor murders.
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The fact is Obama has had a much better four years on forein policy than GW Bush ever had. Yes the conservatives love to talk tough and threaten everybody they don't like. It seems to get then into a patriotic buzz when the president talks like John Wayne or blast like Clint Eastwood but that is not always the best path. When your policy breaths fire they won't even try to talk to you they just stab you in the back. Osama is dead and the American car industry is saved.
 
James D Hill said:
That is all the GOP can say lately.They are not know for rheir creativity you know. I love that symbol you have.It looks like a album cover for some prog rock band.
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Thanks, the symbol is a pentacle. It is a pagan symbol and I am pagan.
 
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