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Figures: CNN Poll Fabricated. Romney Actually Up By 8 Points

disneydude said:
You choose to live in a horrendous place so that you can spend two weeks in paradise. I just choose to live in paradise. LOL
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Thanks for sending all those businesses and taxpayers out of California. Looks to me like they cannot way to get out of "paradise"
 
disneydude said:
How many of those 16 million were unemployed/discouraged when Obama took Office? The reality, con, is that we have had 2 solid years of job gains under Obama...compared to a year of not only losing jobs but hemorraghing jobs under your hero. If GWB had been in office another year, he would have drive this country into a second depression. There is a reason that GWB legacy will be the Herbert Hoover of the 21st century. Sure....Obama needs to do better, but compared to where we were when he started, it is a HUGE improvement....everywhere except for the world that you live in.
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I posted the chart, less than 12.8 million million. Get someone to help you read the chart

Unemployed + Discouraged
2008 8145 7887 8217 8043 8795 8998 9411 9831 9968 10567 11152 11941
2009 12783 13591 14074 14536 15297 15520 15442 15619 15718 16229 16088 16053
2010 16018 16243 16122 16418 15959 15724 15794 15845 15783 15855 16386 15711
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You obviously need Barack Obamanomics and California is used to Obamanomics thus the terrible economic results. Tell me why you support these results?
 
disneydude said:
How many of those 16 million were unemployed/discouraged when Obama took Office? The reality, con, is that we have had 2 solid years of job gains under Obama...compared to a year of not only losing jobs but hemorraghing jobs under your hero. If GWB had been in office another year, he would have drive this country into a second depression. There is a reason that GWB legacy will be the Herbert Hoover of the 21st century. Sure....Obama needs to do better, but compared to where we were when he started, it is a HUGE improvement....everywhere except for the world that you live in.
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In the real world do you believe discouraged workers are unemployed? You do realize they aren't counted in the unemployment number and thus aren't part of the 800k jobs you and others keep posting. Notice the over million discouraged workers in 2010 and unless California math is different that exceeds the 800k you want to blame Bush for

Discouraged workers per month. looks like 1.3 million in November 2010. Is that more than Bush's 800k?

2009 734 731 685 740 792 793 796 758 706 808 861 929 778
2010 1065 1204 994 1197 1083 1207 1185 1110 1209 1219 1282 1318 1173
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pbrauer said:
Here is a nice graph for you Con.

View attachment 67134188
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Love the graph, looks like after adding 5.4 trillion to the debt the U-6 number is higher than at any time during the Bush term and please notice the 2010 numbers? Didn't the recession end in June 2009 and the stimulus pass in February 2009? The numbers today are worse than what he inherited. Get some help reading the chart
 
disneydude said:
How many of those 16 million were unemployed/discouraged when Obama took Office? The reality, con, is that we have had 2 solid years of job gains under Obama...compared to a year of not only losing jobs but hemorraghing jobs under your hero. If GWB had been in office another year, he would have drive this country into a second depression. There is a reason that GWB legacy will be the Herbert Hoover of the 21st century. Sure....Obama needs to do better, but compared to where we were when he started, it is a HUGE improvement....everywhere except for the world that you live in.
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"Your" President is an absolute embarrassment and incompetent as the results show. Your support for that record is quite telling and says a lot about you
 
Conservative said:
"Your" President is an absolute embarrassment and incompetent as the results show. Your support for that record is quite telling and says a lot about you
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Nice shuffle con.....btw...whether you like it or not, he's YOUR President too.....your attitude is quite telling and says a lot about you.
 
disneydude said:
Nice shuffle con.....btw...whether you like it or not, he's YOUR President too.....your attitude is quite telling and says a lot about you.
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Never said he wasn't, just put your in quotes to indicate that you voted for him. I didn't vote for him because of his resume and won't vote for him because of his record. Keep dodging the record.

Rather embarrassing for you isn't it to see the record that you aren't being told
 
mbig said:
Romney doesn't have a 'plan'.
He has a Lollipop!
He proposes a [an ADDITIONAL] 20% Tax cut for everybody and he'll make it up on "loopholes".
Huh?
Talk about DEFICIT.
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You want badly to believe Romney will do a worse job than Obama has done but have no proof of that. I have given you the Obama results which you want to ignore.
 
Conservative said:
Never said he wasn't, just put your in quotes to indicate that you voted for him. I didn't vote for him because of his resume and won't vote for him because of his record. Keep dodging the record.

Rather embarrassing for you isn't it to see the record that you aren't being told
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They can't defend or spin the economic numbers. It's simple math. The only way they can spin their lies is if they stop counting people who have given up looking for work. Obama wants us all to believe life under him is better than it was under Bush. That's laughable. Life under Bush was good. The Housing Crash was caused by Democrats who protected their GSE lobbyist cronies over at Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac for years, gave them sweetheart rates covered by taxpayer dollars. The last Republican budget had reduced the deficit before the Democrats took over.

Obama has been spending at TARP levels for 4 years. TARP. It was supposed to be a ONE TIME EXPENDITURE. Obama made that his baseline budget. Harry Reid pretends he doesn't notice and refuses to pass a budget. The Republicans have been proposing budget after budget as Obama runs around the country on our dime claiming "Romney doesn't have a plan" after he spent 6 trillion within 4 years and is sitting at 19% Real Unemployment.

Unemployment the day Democrats took control of congress and the senate was 4.5% with 3.5% GDP Growth. Nothing more needs to be said. That's ball game right there. Obama and his propaganda machine, with his legion of RedGuard cult worshipers want us all to believe that life under Bush was awful. Terrible. It's a cheap parlor trick with the intention of making you believe this Obama created Great Depression is the new normal. It isn't.

Liberalism is a failed ideology. Their economic theories have been proven to be false. Government Stimulus does not create wealth and prosperity. A Free Market Economy that focuses on production and trade is what works. The libs are scrambling. Desperate. That's why you see the Obama sycophants in the media doctoring the polls.

Look at Romney's lead with Independents. Obama is going to lose in a landslide.
 
Conservative said:
You want badly to believe Romney will do a worse job than Obama has done but have no proof of that. I have given you the Obama results which you want to ignore.
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You put up the same Dishonest/Disingenuous crap every hour here.
All your numbers count on Blaming Obama instead of Bush for the first Month (incl January 09 when Obama wasn't sworn in until the 20th)/3-Months/6-months of his Administration by which time none of his policies could have taken hold and reversed the Bush Depression. 2 Million+ Jobs lost in the first 3 mos of 2009 alone.
It (and deleveraging, etc) will still be with us no matter EVEN the next President's party.

Without that Daily Lying with Statistics, you have have zero to say.
There, I just saved you another 20,000 posts.
Try it on rookies.
 
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mbig said:
You put up the same Dishonest/Disingenuous crap every hour here.
All your numbers count on Blaming Obama instead of Bush for the first Month (incl January 09 when Obama wasn't sworn in until the 20th)/3-Months/6-months of his Administration by which time none of his policies could have taken hold and reversed the Bush Depression. 2 Million+ Jobs lost in the first 3 mos of 2009 alone.
It (and deleveraging, etc) will still be with us no matter EVEN the next President's party.

Without that Daily Lying with Statistics, you have have zero to say.
There, I just saved you another 20,000 posts.
Try it on rookies.
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Look, I don't care what month of 2009 you use 2010 is worse, much worse so how do you blame that on Bush? Get some help learning how to read the chart. What I see is a typical liberal who wants badly to believe that another liberal in a leadership position wouldn't lie to you. The BLS data is there for you to see, you choose to make a fool of yourself. I cannot fix that for you
 
Conservative said:
Then please tell me how counties in this country can have more people voting than the entire county registered voters? You want badly to buy the liberal spin but the reality is you need a photo ID to get into the Democrat convention, to get on a plane, to cash a check but not to vote? That is idiotic. You think democrats really care about the people? BS, they care about getting those not eligible to vote to vote.
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Well, you then must have example after example of such fraud from non biased sources.

And the reason you need to have a photo ID to get into things in this day and age might have something to do with increased security. Also, check fraud is a big problem, in person voter id fraud is not.

Hey, when I go voting tomorrow I have to have my photo ID or I am not allowed to vote. But in the Netherlands having an ID is mandatory and everyone has one. In the US a lot of people do not have a photo id, usually people who do not travel, who do not have a driving license or anything like that. For these people, it is made harder to go and vote. It is a monetary thing and an extra step to undertake before being allowed to vote.
 
Peter King said:
Well, you then must have example after example of such fraud from non biased sources.

And the reason you need to have a photo ID to get into things in this day and age might have something to do with increased security. Also, check fraud is a big problem, in person voter id fraud is not.

Hey, when I go voting tomorrow I have to have my photo ID or I am not allowed to vote. But in the Netherlands having an ID is mandatory and everyone has one. In the US a lot of people do not have a photo id, usually people who do not travel, who do not have a driving license or anything like that. For these people, it is made harder to go and vote. It is a monetary thing and an extra step to undertake before being allowed to vote.
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Oh please....The states placing this requirement into law were going so far as to expend government resources to go to the people that needed the ID, and offering it for free if needed....Sorry, that doesn't fly.
 
johnny_rebson said:
I'm sure Mr. Chambers wouldn't have posted it on the internet if it wasn't true.
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Over sampling, and leading questions are only a couple of ways liberals in support of Obama are trying to lead the sheep today.
 
rocket88 said:
If there's one thing that I've learned, it's that every poll is just that much different. The OP fails because the basic point was "My favorite righty blog says CNN is full of crap. Therefore, CNN is full of crap." I'll bet I can go find a lefty blog that hails this poll as being the most accurate poll in the history of polling. It'll be just as accurate.
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Noo..... that's why we are discussing not a he-said-she-said, but rather the math.
 
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