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Poll: In Ohio, 15% of "very conservative" think Romney killed Osama Bin Ladin

Playing dumb doesn't help your situation lol.

As you (apparently inadvertently) pointed out, liberals have actual studies that show that what I am saying is correct. The conservatives that deny it have nothing but their own assertions.

As usual, you are lying about what I said. I posted it twice. Both will post studies. And this will prove nothing.
 
Actually, no it isn't. The topic is that, according to some poll, 15% of people who identified as Very Conservative, think that Romney had something to do with Bin Laden being killed. What do you think about those people, apdst?

If you read my post, you would know. Did you read my post? Or is this just another flame fest because you're a mod and can get away with it?

If you'll look at the information closely, you'll notice that the 15% figures is 15% of the 6% that said Romney deserved credit for killing UBL, along with 4% very Liberal, 4% Liberal, 3% Moderate and 6% Conservative. Whatcha think of the Liberals who participated in the poll that think Romney deserves credit for killing UBL, Captain?

If you use the same disinformation that's utilized in the OP, 11% of the non-Conservatives in Ohio think Romney killed UBL. So, had the OP not been designed to deceive the forum members, the topic should have been, "dumbasses in both parties". Hell, perhaps the OP really believes that 15% of all "very Conservatives" people in Ohio think Romney killed UBL.

That fact that the question even appeared on the poll causes the poll to lose a certain amount of credibility.
 
I bet a lot of people still believe Obama's Muslim. Not that it even matters.
 
If you read my post, you would know. Did you read my post? Or is this just another flame fest because you're a mod and can get away with it?

Me being a mod has zero to do with pointing out your dishonesty, apdst. I showed what the thread is about. In usual apdst fashion, you'd rather switch the topic AWAY from the OP saying something critical about conservatives to saying something critical about liberals. Since the OP had nothing to do with the latter, I confronted you on that. I understand that you don't like this type of confrontation. A great way for it not to happen is for you to not do what you did.

If you'll look at the information closely, you'll notice that the 15% figures is 15% of the 6% that said Romney deserved credit for killing UBL, along with 4% very Liberal, 4% Liberal, 3% Moderate and 6% Conservative. Whatcha think of the Liberals who participated in the poll that think Romney deserves credit for killing UBL, Captain?

Interesting. You have STILL avoiding my question, apdst. What do you think of those "very conservatives" who think that Romney had something to do with Bin Laden being killed?

If you use the same disinformation that's utilized in the OP, 11% of the non-Conservatives in Ohio think Romney killed UBL. So, had the OP not been designed to deceive the forum members, the topic should have been, "dumbasses in both parties". Hell, perhaps the OP really believes that 15% of all "very Conservatives" people in Ohio think Romney killed UBL.

That fact that the question even appeared on the poll causes the poll to lose a certain amount of credibility.

Which is all irrelevant to what the OP is about. Now, notice. Nowhere did I say anything about the credibility of the OP or the article. I asked you a simple question and I'll ask again. What do you think of those who identify as "very conservative" in that poll who believe that Romney had something to do with Bin Ladin being killed? It's a Hypocrisy Check! question, apdst. Let's see if you pass the test.
 
Me being a mod has zero to do with pointing out your dishonesty, apdst. I showed what the thread is about. In usual apdst fashion, you'd rather switch the topic AWAY from the OP saying something critical about conservatives to saying something critical about liberals. Since the OP had nothing to do with the latter, I confronted you on that. I understand that you don't like this type of confrontation. A great way for it not to happen is for you to not do what you did.



Interesting. You have STILL avoiding my question, apdst. What do you think of those "very conservatives" who think that Romney had something to do with Bin Laden being killed?



Which is all irrelevant to what the OP is about. Now, notice. Nowhere did I say anything about the credibility of the OP or the article. I asked you a simple question and I'll ask again. What do you think of those who identify as "very conservative" in that poll who believe that Romney had something to do with Bin Ladin being killed? It's a Hypocrisy Check! question, apdst. Let's see if you pass the test.

How was I being dishonest, Captain Courtesy? Actually, I wasn't--when you look at the actual data. However, you didn't let your political hackery stop you from ignoring the dishonesty in the OP. Have a nice day, Captain Courtesy.
 
How was I being dishonest, Captain Courtesy? Actually, I wasn't--when you look at the actual data. However, you didn't let your political hackery stop you from ignoring the dishonesty in the OP. Have a nice day, Captain Courtesy.

Thread title: "Poll: In Ohio, 15% of "very conservative" think Romney killed Osama Bin Ladin"

Your claim: "If the topic is, "dumbasses of the two parties", it has everything to do with the topic."

Now, the discussion was not about the credibility of the poll. The poll has NO credibility. If it is trying to prove that because X amount of very conservatives believe that Romney had something to do with Bin Ladin being killed, conservatives are dumb, it fails miserably. Just stupid liberal propaganda. However, Bronson presented off-topic comments attacking liberals. Your post accepted that as legitimate in this thread... which it was not. Further, your comment about my mod status has zero to do with the thread and was more diverting.

But let's see if you will agree with this statement. Based on your comment, would you agree that both the very conservatives who think that Romney had something to do with Bin Ladin being killed and the very liberals who believe that this represents ANYTHING credible are both dumbasses?
 
For those of you seriously arguing about the topic and validity of the OP, you're that 15% =P. That's not the point of the thread. The point is a whole bunch of people don't have anything between their ears and vote only based on party.

I'll bet you anything a lot of the people who answered "very liberal" doesn't even know what liberal means.
 
Thread title: "Poll: In Ohio, 15% of "very conservative" think Romney killed Osama Bin Ladin"

Your claim: "If the topic is, "dumbasses of the two parties", it has everything to do with the topic."

Now, the discussion was not about the credibility of the poll. The poll has NO credibility. If it is trying to prove that because X amount of very conservatives believe that Romney had something to do with Bin Ladin being killed, conservatives are dumb, it fails miserably. Just stupid liberal propaganda. However, Bronson presented off-topic comments attacking liberals. Your post accepted that as legitimate in this thread... which it was not. Further, your comment about my mod status has zero to do with the thread and was more diverting.

But let's see if you will agree with this statement. Based on your comment, would you agree that both the very conservatives who think that Romney had something to do with Bin Ladin being killed and the very liberals who believe that this represents ANYTHING credible are both dumbasses?

The thread title is inaccurate and misleading. While you're harping about dishonesty, you might want to start at the beginning. But, political hackery won't allow that. Will it, Captain Courtesy?
 
For those of you seriously arguing about the topic and validity of the OP, you're that 15% =P. That's not the point of the thread. The point is a whole bunch of people don't have anything between their ears and vote only based on party.

What about the 8% of Liberals and 3% of Moderates that also think Romney killed UBL? What party line are they voting down?

I'll bet you anything a lot of the people who answered "very liberal" doesn't even know what liberal means.

That, I have to agree with. Because, we all know that every self-loathing, card carrying Liberal in the country knows damn-good-and-well that Obama killed UBL. Hell, Obama called every play in the game, from the situation room.
 
OH LOOK!!! the guy that quotes Clint Eastwood on his botched speech at the botched convention.
 
The thread title is inaccurate and misleading. While you're harping about dishonesty, you might want to start at the beginning. But, political hackery won't allow that. Will it, Captain Courtesy?

Still refusing to answer my question, eh apdst? Refusing to acknowledge anything I say. Just staying with your own well documented biases. Here... I'll give it another go:

"But let's see if you will agree with this statement. Based on your comment, would you agree that both the very conservatives who think that Romney had something to do with Bin Ladin being killed and the very liberals who believe that this represents ANYTHING credible are both dumbasses?"
 
Still refusing to answer my question, eh apdst? Refusing to acknowledge anything I say. Just staying with your own well documented biases. Here... I'll give it another go:

"But let's see if you will agree with this statement. Based on your comment, would you agree that both the very conservatives who think that Romney had something to do with Bin Ladin being killed and the very liberals who believe that this represents ANYTHING credible are both dumbasses?"

The answer to your question is in one of my earlier posts. If you look, you'll see it and then you can let it go. But, you don't want to let it go...do you?
 
lol @ captain

he'll respond with something like "I refuse to answer your biased question" or "everything is Obama's fault" like a tape recorder.
 
lol @ captain

he'll respond with something like "I refuse to answer your biased question" or "everything is Obama's fault" like a tape recorder.

Where did I say that? Joining the flamefest, are you? Making the thread about me? I'm flattered, but...what's the point?
 
The answer to your question is in one of my earlier posts. If you look, you'll see it and then you can let it go. But, you don't want to let it go...do you?

Which I quoted. And my question asks for clarification on your position on this, apdst. So, my question again...

But let's see if you will agree with this statement. Based on your comment, would you agree that both the very conservatives who think that Romney had something to do with Bin Ladin being killed and the very liberals who believe that this represents ANYTHING credible are both dumbasses?"
 
lol @ captain

he'll respond with something like "I refuse to answer your biased question" or "everything is Obama's fault" like a tape recorder.

If you go this route, there will be no reasonable answer. STOP.
 
If you read my post, you would know. Did you read my post? Or is this just another flame fest because you're a mod and can get away with it?

If you'll look at the information closely, you'll notice that the 15% figures is 15% of the 6% that said Romney deserved credit for killing UBL, along with 4% very Liberal, 4% Liberal, 3% Moderate and 6% Conservative. Whatcha think of the Liberals who participated in the poll that think Romney deserves credit for killing UBL, Captain?

If you use the same disinformation that's utilized in the OP, 11% of the non-Conservatives in Ohio think Romney killed UBL. So, had the OP not been designed to deceive the forum members, the topic should have been, "dumbasses in both parties". Hell, perhaps the OP really believes that 15% of all "very Conservatives" people in Ohio think Romney killed UBL.

That fact that the question even appeared on the poll causes the poll to lose a certain amount of credibility.

Wut?

You don't understand weighted averages, it would seem.
17% of the respondents self described as "very conservative"

So, it would actually be 15% of those 17%, who thought Romney was more responsible for Osama Bin Ladin's death.

So, out of 1072 likely voters, 27.3 were "very conservative" and thought Romney was more responsible for OBL's death.

Actually, I think the most interesting result from this question is the 53% of "conservatives" and 51% of "Very Conservative" who are not sure if Obama is more responsible than Romney. These people cannot bring themselves to say anything positive about Obama, no matter what the facts are.


As for those saying my title was "deceptive", the subject box is not long enough for "Poll: In Ohio, 15% of "Very Conservative" think Romney more responsible for Osama Bin Laden's death.

So i shortened it. No deception intended.
 
I want to see a poll of Liberals and Democrats who actually believe Obama's failed policies are actually working

Would be hilarious
 
Ok last time I'm doing this, just for this Bronson guy who's been completely brain washed.

Give me a sec to dig up all the (non bias) facts.
 
Employment:

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Obama was inaugurated on Jan 20, 2009, his first major legislation was the $831 Billion Stimulus plan American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia was enacted on Feb 17 2009. If you know anything about economics, policies take at least a year or two to take effect. So the effect of his policies should be seen between 2010 and 2011. Republicans (and the "Tea party") took control of the House in 2011 so if I wanted to be picky I can attribute the current slow down in growth to them. I'm willing to take it as a natural mini recession in the economic cycle.

So...
1.Employment is UP
2.Unemployment was over 10% when Obama took office it's down to 8.3% (not good, and our president agrees, but much better)

This is generally common knowledge but if you want me to cite sources I can. The 8.3% is words from Romney adds not my words.

Stocks:

http://www.nyse.tv/dow-jones-industr...story-djia.htm
http://www.nyse.tv/nasdaq-composite-history.htm
http://www.nyse.tv/s-and-p-500-history.htm
 
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As usual, you are lying about what I said. I posted it twice. Both will post studies. And this will prove nothing.

You only said one side would post studies. You didn't add 'post studies' on the other end. Either you just forgot to add the words, or it was intentional. That's the point they are making, that you are avoiding.

Either way, it is pretty easy to understand the point you were trying to make, even with your mistake.
 
You only said one side would post studies. You didn't add 'post studies' on the other end. Either you just forgot to add the words, or it was intentional. That's the point they are making, that you are avoiding.

Either way, it is pretty easy to understand the point you were trying to make, even with your mistake.

There was no error. What I said was clear... I was indicating that both sides would do the same thing.
 
This has what to do with the topic?
Did you WATCH the videos? its the perfect foil to anyone that points out 'very conservative people...simply show videos of 'Obama supporters'. Like...did you know they SUPPORT his choice of Palin for VP because she is a smart woman and good candidate? Did you know Obama supporters really believe in Obamas anti abortion stand? It goes on and on.

 
4% very liberal say Romney is more responsible as well.

I wonder what inclines people to state these things?


like a protest vote.

Neither of these guys had jack **** to do with his finding and killing.
 
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