Stocks: 8k-, 1400-, 700-; 13k+, 3k+, 1400+ (Dow Jones, Nasdaq, S&P 500 respectively)
2009
DJ: 10,172.89
Nasdaq: 1,477.29
S&P: 831.95
Today
DJ: 13,090.84
Nasdaq: 3,066.96
S&P: 1406.58
Difference
DJ: +2,917.95
Nasdaq: +1,589.67
S&P: +574.63
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This is tricky since we don't even formally declare wars any more it seems. That being said...
Afghanistan is still an active theater of war with still over 50% of our troop presence there from the high point of the surge. To declare that a war that only counts as 1/2 because there is a plan to be done 2 years from now would mean you'd need to take Iraq down to 1/2 for Bush, since the plan that Obama followed through with was laid out by his administration.
Note, even
Media Matters acknowledges this:
So at best you're looking at 2 to 1 or 1 1/2 to 1/2.
Again, subjective usage of terminology. "Steady" is a questionable term. Once more, since you decided to just CLAIM facts without any proof, I'm going to have to go find what I can here so forgive me if it's not the most up to date. If you can provide me something newer, I'm all ears.
While home ownership has taken a slight increase recently, it is still less than even in 2009. On this particular issue of the housing market it would be accurate to say either "In 2009 we were trending downward, now we're appearing to trend upward" or "We had more people owning homes in 2009 than we do today".
Other things show more clearly postively today, in terms of housing index's signaling sales
2009 and now they are trending upward in terms of actual sales, with similar total numbers at the times. However, in 2009 you had the home buyer credit that you don't have currently. However, the index that attempts to predict future growth is far higher than in 2009.
Existing sales, again, were trending up in 2009 and now, but the caveat above about the credit is needed again. However, in terms of NEW home sales, the number today is still lower than in 2009 and showing no significant trend.
So look at all that, in terms of the housing market in general, it would seem that in 2009 it was trending up but partially due to manipulations with the market and currently we're relatively equal as in 2009 in terms of raw numbers and trending upwards at a slower, but less artificial, pace.
When he came into office:
10.6 Trillion
Currently:
16 Trillion
Difference: 5.4 Trillion Dollars
That's the hard number. Everyone thing else is depending on how you want to massage those numbers to make them look in a way that is favorable to you or unfavorable to the other side. But the purest fact is that's the hard number.
According to Gallop, there are actually a higher percentage of people without health insurance coverage today then there was in 2009
Again, this is subjective in nature. How are you defining "in decline". Was it's point "in decline" still potentially at a higher ground in some peoples mind than it currently is now even with "renewed talks of landing on mars". Further, are "talks", rather than planned action, legitimate enough to suggest going aay from a decline.
The first is true, though its a completely debatable point as to whether or not they would not be alive had a President not continued the auto bailout. The second is also true, and the first thing you've said so far that is just unequivocably something that could be judged as better, regardless of how one looks at it, for America.
What? The opening statement where you proclaim everyones failed to provide facts....and then you provided no verified fact?
I would too. It would be helpful if you backed up your logic and reasoning at times with some actual verified facts, because yours seemed very lacking.
I'm not looking to sell you on Romney...based on some of the rhetoric just in this post I don't think you likely could, or would, be sold on Romney any more than I likely would be "sold" on Obama. The fact some people don't seem to get is the very politically engaged individuals who have steadfast beliefs and views regarding their ideology, policy, and what's best long term for this country are not really the target of these type of elections because they're vote is pretty much already dialed in from moment one.
. Missed opportunity to to back it up with examples and facts instead of empty words.
