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Can you say.... October Suprise for Mittens?

Bobcat said:
when the central theme of a political convention is bigger government, free birth control, and abortion, it seems pretty far left to me.
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What convention were you watching? You sure have a skewed way of looking at things, that's kind of sad.
 
avusbluem5 said:
LOL... That is a nice fantasy you have. Did you consider what happens after your "Obamagate" fantasy plays out? President Joe Biden.

Didn't think that through did you?
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Bobcat said:
I would prefer plugs over Barry. At lease Biden does not have an agenda to destroy the usa
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Ok that's over the top ridiculous rhetoric you have nothing but your sorry hateful opinions to back that up. When will Americans realize that kind of ugly divisiveness erodes the very fabric of our democracy. Seriously you think President Clinton is going to support someone who wants to destroy U.S.? That's crazy.
 
danarhea said:
'Ya know, if this is actually true, and ends up damaging Romney, then he is going to become a lot richer after he wins his lawsuit.
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Prolly, first we have to make sure it's true then catch the guy, I honestly think this is terrible. But Mitt could have avoided this, too bad he didn't release his tax returns, what goes around comes around.
 
Debra said:
But Mitt could have avoided this, too bad he didn't release his tax returns, what goes around comes around.
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Heh. Yes, the victim is always responsible for the crime. Hey, if only that girl hadn't been wearing the slutty clothes . . .
 
Bobcat said:
then why doesn't he make the offer? You know why, because he does not want YOU to know what is in his Columbia application forms---------------scholarships as a foreign student. Either he WAS a foreign student or he committed fraud by claiming to be one.
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LOL... You are as bad as the Birthers. They were saying the same thing about his "long form" birth certificate... Heck some are still saying it, after they've seen the Long Form. You people will never stop asking for more documents to support more conspiracy theories. Do you realize how many people would need to be complicit in keeping that information secret? Mitt can't even keep his tax returns secret, and you think the college admission records are locked up in Fort Knox or something? LOL
 
Bobcat said:
We all know that there is bias in the media and that strories are created to try to damage someone politically.
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No. Most of us know that media is bias toward selling ad space and time. They are bias toward holding their audience and will run stories that imply a dramatic conflict and keep the audience tuned in. Sex and conflict sells.

No legitimate study has ever proven that MSM overall leans left. In fact, most evidence points to MSM leaning right-of-center on economic and foreign policy issues, while being left-of-center on social issues. Which of the two most dramatically effects public policy?

TV News:

If you include punditry under MSM, then I'll point out the highest rated discussion shows are conservative leaning. Hell, the most watched cable news is the nightly GOP propaganda.

Print News:

The NYT caters to an east-coast audience and runs front page stories every week that reflect negatively on President Obama. But think about it, if you add up the readership of newspapers in the bible belt and midwest that cater to their audience, it cancels out as far as readership. Newspapers will run headlines and frame stories in manner that keeps their audience reading. In any newspaper office, there are going to be reporters who lean one way or the other. It just bugs the conservatives that the NYT gets called the 'paper of record'. Does anybody not reading the NYT really care about that?

Magazines, other print media:

US Magazine and People outsell Time and Newsweek. But if you want to do a head count, conservative political magazines outsell the liberal Mother Jones.

Local TV Media:

As far as straight network news, there is zero evidence of left-leaning or 'in the bag' bias. They program according to what will hold their viewers, and allow them to sell ad time. Your typical local crime report tends to promote a conservative lean and the Casey Anthony trial dominated the nightly news during the debt ceiling debate.

If the debt ceiling debate had been reported properly, then it would have put the new Tea Party congress in very bad light. But MSM led every night that week with Casey Anthony and Anthony Weiner's penis.

The notion that MSM is trying to damage a political party that controls committees that decide FCC policy is just plain retarded.

Why don't Dems complain when the lead story is a jobs report or anything that puts the President in a bad light? No one makes a stink when NYT runs a front page story about Afganistan costs and deaths. It seems like it's always the the Fox News watchers and Limbaughites who constantly regurgitate what is basically a conspiracy theory.


Its really sad that these so-called news outlets pretend to be legitimate when they are nothing but a propaganda arm of one party.
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You mean like 'Fair and Balanced'? Do you people really buy that any more?
 
avusbluem5 said:
I think Republicans should have fully vetted their candidate before giving him the nomination.

I think if Candidate Romney can be extorted because of information he should have already made public, then he could also be extorted if he were President, and that is a scarey proposition.

I think it was foolish for Romney to believe he could keep this information secret, when a countless number of people have access through his enormous accounting firm and the IRS.

I think Mittens could put an end to all of it by simply releasing the information, hiding his returns gives the appearance of impropriety.
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What a bunch of partisan nonsense. Look, Romney should not pay them of course, further, he should claim loud and clear that those are not his returns, they are not accurate and that the dems are behind all this and make the FBI involvement in the case front and center.

You don't seem to get what will happen to the dems when they catch this attempted blackmailer. That could be a fun October surprise and not so much fun for Obama.
 
clownboy said:
What a bunch of partisan nonsense. Look, Romney should not pay them of course, further, he should claim loud and clear that those are not his returns, they are not accurate and that the dems are behind all this and make the FBI involvement in the case front and center.

You don't seem to get what will happen to the dems when they catch this attempted blackmailer. That could be a fun October surprise and not so much fun for Obama.
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What if they are his tax returns?
 
Debra said:
We haven't seen college admission forms from Romney or other candidates, what do you think your going to find? I think the last four years President Obama has proven himself to be a man of integrity and good morals and values, that's why everyone likes him so much, your digging for dirt..you have been for 4 years LOL give it up he's already President ! Why not focus on the issues that matter?
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I think he's made it clear what he expects to find. But how you can accuse him of digging for dirt while doing the same yourself seems a tad hypocritical. And if you took off the partisan blinders you'd see that not everyone likes Obama all that much, even many of his previous supporters. He does not have a high approval rating as POTUS.
 
avusbluem5 said:
What if they are his tax returns?
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Doesn't matter, you'll never know unless Romney vettes them and says they are. Short of that, they have to be assumed, by any but rank partisans, to be faked/altered.
 
Debra said:
Prolly, first we have to make sure it's true then catch the guy, I honestly think this is terrible. But Mitt could have avoided this, too bad he didn't release his tax returns, what goes around comes around.
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Wow, would you tell a rape victim she could have avoided rape if she'd just said, "yes" to the assailant? 'Cause that's the asinine logic present in your post.
 
avusbluem5 said:
Mitt Tax Theft Claim Investigated - The Daily Beast

The foundation for releasing Mittens 2008 & 2009 tax returns has been laid... Mitt better try to get in front of this and start releasing records on his own, so he can get his spin on them first...

More details here...

Mitt Romney Tax Return Theft Allegation Investigated By Secret Service
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First, it's illegal. Getting what you want doesn't make it a good thing, or justifiable. Whoever did this should be caught and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Also, anyone who makes any political points out of this should be shunned.

Second, who cares. Tax forms are pretty easy to forge. Even if someone got the actual returns, how do we know that they didn't change the numbers? I mean, it's not like they're all that credible being a thief and all.
 
Mithros said:
First, it's illegal. Getting what you want doesn't make it a good thing, or justifiable. Whoever did this should be caught and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Also, anyone who makes any political points out of this should be shunned.

Second, who cares. Tax forms are pretty easy to forge. Even if someone got the actual returns, how do we know that they didn't change the numbers? I mean, it's not like they're all that credible being a thief and all.
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LOL... already spinning the bad news, and we haven't even seen what was allegedly stolen. Guess what else is illegal... Not disclosing your foreign bank accounts. Romney didn't include his 2010 FBAR form in the 1 tax return he released. So he hasn't even complied with the disclosure law either.

Q. What is an FBAR?

A. An FBAR is a Report of Foreign Bank and Financial Accounts. The form number is TD F 90-22.1 (PDF).
Q. Who must file an FBAR?

A. Any United States person who has a financial interest in or signature authority or other authority over any financial account in a foreign country, if the aggregate value of these accounts exceeds $10,000 at any time during the calendar year. See also Notice 2010-23.

Q. When is the FBAR due?

A. The FBAR is due by June 30 of the year following the year that the account holder meets the $10,000 threshold. The granting, by IRS, of an extension to file Federal income tax returns does not extend the due date for filing an FBAR. Filers cannot request an extension of the FBAR due date. See also Notice 2010-23.

Q. What happens if an account holder is required to file an FBAR and fails to do so?

A. Failure to file an FBAR when required to do so may potentially result in civil penalties, criminal penalties or both.
 
avusbluem5 said:
Mitt Tax Theft Claim Investigated - The Daily Beast

The foundation for releasing Mittens 2008 & 2009 tax returns has been laid... Mitt better try to get in front of this and start releasing records on his own, so he can get his spin on them first...

More details here...

Mitt Romney Tax Return Theft Allegation Investigated By Secret Service
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This follows the pattern of Obama's previous elections. Sealed records seem somehow to become public. But I doubt very much that there's any substance to this claim. Even if there is and the returns are made public there won't be anything illegal in them and people are likely to be drawn to Romney's defense. Not a single person in America would tolerate the unauthorized publication of their personal financial information. in fact the illegal, unauhthorized publication of his tax records would be advantageous to him. Bring it on.
 
avusbluem5 said:
Mitt Tax Theft Claim Investigated - The Daily Beast

The foundation for releasing Mittens 2008 & 2009 tax returns has been laid... Mitt better try to get in front of this and start releasing records on his own, so he can get his spin on them first...

More details here...

Mitt Romney Tax Return Theft Allegation Investigated By Secret Service
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What are they going to investigate? They don't have the authority to access that information.


I can see now that the taxers are going to be a royal pain in the ass.
 
avusbluem5 said:
LOL... already spinning the bad news, and we haven't even seen what was allegedly stolen. Guess what else is illegal... Not disclosing your foreign bank accounts. Romney didn't include his 2010 FBAR form in the 1 tax return he released. So he hasn't even complied with the disclosure law either.

Q. What is an FBAR?

A. An FBAR is a Report of Foreign Bank and Financial Accounts. The form number is TD F 90-22.1 (PDF).
Q. Who must file an FBAR?

A. Any United States person who has a financial interest in or signature authority or other authority over any financial account in a foreign country, if the aggregate value of these accounts exceeds $10,000 at any time during the calendar year. See also Notice 2010-23.

Q. When is the FBAR due?

A. The FBAR is due by June 30 of the year following the year that the account holder meets the $10,000 threshold. The granting, by IRS, of an extension to file Federal income tax returns does not extend the due date for filing an FBAR. Filers cannot request an extension of the FBAR due date. See also Notice 2010-23.

Q. What happens if an account holder is required to file an FBAR and fails to do so?

A. Failure to file an FBAR when required to do so may potentially result in civil penalties, criminal penalties or both.
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wait..what is FUBAR?...Oh I got it...its what the USA is since the fraud radical Marxist Barak Hussein Obama got into office via the Trojan Horse route..
 
jerry7 said:
This follows the pattern of Obama's previous elections. Sealed records seem somehow to become public. But I doubt very much that there's any substance to this claim. Even if there is and the returns are made public there won't be anything illegal in them and people are likely to be drawn to Romney's defense. Not a single person in America would tolerate the unauthorized publication of their personal financial information. in fact the illegal, unauhthorized publication of his tax records would be advantageous to him. Bring it on.
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If Mitt's returns are so clean, why not release them, and remove extortionist's leverage? How far is Mitt willing to go to hide his returns? And more importantly, why?
 
avusbluem5 said:
If Mitt's returns are so clean, why not release them, and remove extortionist's leverage? How far is Mitt willing to go to hide his returns? And more importantly, why?
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again..the IRS would have flagged any tax return they felt was incorrect..that Mitt wont give into yoru liberal screaching is enough to win votes anyway...

I say Mitt drops his own Oct surprise called "Uncle Odinga" and rolls all the film of them campagining together against a sitting and friendly President to the USA...as Obama supports a his radical Uncle on tax payer money and is arm in arm campaigning..

Hows that surprise grab ya?...or maybe the photos of his mother found at Frank Marshal Davis's house? very erotic photos.. ( Fact)
 
avusbluem5 said:
If Mitt's returns are so clean, why not release them, and remove extortionist's leverage? How far is Mitt willing to go to hide his returns? And more importantly, why?
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If Obama's college transcripts are so "clean" why not release them along with his college thesis and grades?...

You should vett the fraud your support ..right?
 
avusbluem5 said:
If Mitt's returns are so clean, why not release them, and remove extortionist's leverage? How far is Mitt willing to go to hide his returns? And more importantly, why?
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I agree completely. Romney has boxed himself in and has known that since that scamp, Harry Reid, revealed that der Mittster hadn't paid taxes in 10 years. The prove it or eat it moment for Romney. He's been eatin' it ever since.
 
DaveFagan said:
I agree completely. Romney has boxed himself in and has known that since that scamp, Harry Reid, revealed that der Mittster hadn't paid taxes in 10 years. The prove it or eat it moment for Romney. He's been eatin' it ever since.
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Im going to pass out..
 
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