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This election could be Republicans’ last chance

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With all of the debate, not only in this forum but elsewhere across America, as to whether or not the Republicans are 'playing the race card' in their promotion of various bits of legislation which disproportionately affect minorities, some might actually see that race is a real problem for the GOP. The demographics are changing and some folks don't like it. Whether you think it is racism or not, there are many Americans of European descent who fear living in a nation where they have become the minority. They may not advocate blatant racial discrimination but all too often they remain silent in the face of actions by a more virulent minority of their number.


This election could be Republicans’ last chance

At present some 63 per cent of the American population is white. But, by around 2040, the country is likely to be “majority-minority”. Hispanics currently represent 16 per cent of the American population. But 26 per cent of babies in the US last year were born to Hispanic families.

The Republicans risk getting trapped in a vicious circle. Because so many voters in their primaries are elderly “Anglos”, who are upset by the changing demographics of the US, candidates for the Republican nomination are more or less compelled to adopt hardline stances on immigration.

An inability to attract the votes of ethnic minorities in general – and Hispanics in particular – is a big disadvantage to the Republicans in this election but one the Romney-Ryan ticket could yet overcome. In future elections, it could be fatal. Mr Romney faces a very tough battle in the coming months. Future Republican candidates may conclude that he had it easy.

The question then becomes - Can brown and black work together in opposition to well-funded white groups refusing to cede their place at the top of society, even as the whites become a smaller percentage of the population? Or could we have a situation as during the 'good ol' days' when the powerful elites in the South suppressed the labour movement by promoting racism amongst poor whites and as a result both poor whites and blacks were screwed.
 
Maybe if white people stop oppressing everyone else, by the time we're not the majority anymore, the rest of population won't be so inclined to follow a "what goes around comes around" policy with us. Maybe if we take action, pull them up out of poverty, educate and employ them, stop locking them up and executing them, stop trying to keep them from voting, stop deriding other religions, and generally make race not an issue, then when our race no longer shields us, race won't be something that can be used against us. If we embrace a view of a single human race now, that view should still be around when we're not the majority. But if we espouse the majority using that against the minority, then there's little reason to expect others to do any differently when it's their turn.
 
Maybe if white people stop oppressing everyone else, by the time we're not the majority anymore, the rest of population won't be so inclined to follow a "what goes around comes around" policy with us. Maybe if we take action, pull them up out of poverty, educate and employ them, stop locking them up and executing them, stop trying to keep them from voting, stop deriding other religions, and generally make race not an issue, then when our race no longer shields us, race won't be something that can be used against us. If we embrace a view of a single human race now, that view should still be around when we're not the majority. But if we espouse the majority using that against the minority, then there's little reason to expect others to do any differently when it's their turn.

I agree with much of what you've said. You do realize, I hope, that the "we" you speak of is our government, right?
 
Stupid premise. It's almost never "the last chance" for a political party with as much strength as the GOP.
 
Stupid premise. It's almost never "the last chance" for a political party with as much strength as the GOP.

Oh, it can be, you know. Take the disintegration of the British Liberal Party in the Twentieth Century - huge majority in 1906, almost dead by 1950. What looks like strength can just be a loud voice and a lot of muscle-flexing by people who are way over the hill.
 
Maybe if we take action, pull them up out of poverty, educate and employ them,
We've had 50 years of this "help" - where has it gotten us? If the goal is to make "race not an issue," I'd recommend that white people concentrate on trying to educate themselves, thank you very much.
 
We've had 50 years of this "help" - where has it gotten us? If the goal is to make "race not an issue," I'd recommend that white people concentrate on trying to educate themselves, thank you very much.

I think they'd be wasting their time: they are too brainwashed.
 
"last chance" nonsense is nonsense.

i remember in the early 2000s when Limbaugh declared that the Republican majority meant the Democrats were going to be out of power for a generation. if the repubs lose this time around, they'll be a force to be reckoned with in '16 due to Democratic presidential fatigue in the general public. this is an observable cycle.

what is coming to an end, however, is any tolerance for anti-homosexual candidates. the younger generations reject those views outright, and they will go the way of the anti-interracial marriage / segregation movements. the republicans will eventually drop this plank.
 
Maybe if white people stop oppressing everyone else, by the time we're not the majority anymore, the rest of population won't be so inclined to follow a "what goes around comes around" policy with us. Maybe if we take action, pull them up out of poverty, educate and employ them, stop locking them up and executing them, stop trying to keep them from voting, stop deriding other religions, and generally make race not an issue, then when our race no longer shields us, race won't be something that can be used against us. If we embrace a view of a single human race now, that view should still be around when we're not the majority. But if we espouse the majority using that against the minority, then there's little reason to expect others to do any differently when it's their turn.

LMFAO... I love how you blame whites...

Who created the concepts of freedom, democracy, and equality?

Who created the concept of everyone is entitled to inalienable rights?

Who created the United States of America, a nation where all were welcome to come despite race or religion?

(Hint, these things didn't originate from the ancestry of any minority group)

Who ended slavery? No one... slavery still goes on in many parts of the world... Especially in African nations...

So, it's really funny to see you suggesting that whites aren't the ones who are embracing the view of a single human race (also a view which originated with whites)...

There's a "Black Community", a "Black Congress", a "Black National Anthem", a "Black History" (Month even) , Black Power, Black Entertainment Television, Black Liberation Theology, the Black Panther Party, the Black Liberation Army, Black Businesses (their own bureau and meetings of Black Business leaders, etc.), and numerous other things dedicated to Blacks in particular...
There's a National Association for the Advancement of Colored People...
There are numerous colleges which have been forced to offer "African American Studies" as an accepted major... (our first lady graduated with one... that's right a major to study your own race only)
There are numerous performers who go by some variation of racial moniker, such as Sounds of Blackness, SWV, Natural Black, etc...

All these things would be heavily shunned from society if done by Whites... but it's perfectly acceptable by Blacks?

For all the supposed problems with separate but equal, there seems to be a particular race that wants their own separate everything...


When Trayvon Martin was killed by a Hispanic, in the aftermath, when we heard that Hispanic guy calling 9/11 because he was being threatened by thug who was after him and was asked to identify his race as White, Black, or Hispanic, he said he was Black... Suddenly the entire nation was in an uproar that Whites were killing Blacks... So the usual suspects (Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Tavis Smiley, etc.) got on their bully pulpits to race bait... Even the president got involved and made it seem that justice had to be served, because "if I had a son he would look like Trayvon Martin"... As a result, there were numerous backlashes where gangs of Black teens went around pummeling unsuspecting Whites at what were meant to be peaceful gatherings all around the country...


So perhaps you need to stop focusing on Whites as a reason Blacks aren't fairing well in society... Because the problems within this society that affect Blacks, affect all people equally...


They need to stop blaming others, stop complaining, stop crying, stop feeling sorry for yourselves, and playing the victims, and get their own acts together... do what they need to in order to advance... The same way Asians already have, and Hispanics are currently doing...

You don't have to take my word on that, either...

It's exactly what Obama said to the "Black Caucus"...




BTW, that thought of "when we become a minority", you may want to hold on to that sentiment, as in the last census the size and percentage of "white"s increased to 70%, by far the largest of all the groups...)
 
When power is grossly abused, I blame the powerful.

do you consider it an abuse of power when the president unilaterally decides which laws to enforce and which to ignore?
 
With all of the debate, not only in this forum but elsewhere across America, as to whether or not the Republicans are 'playing the race card' in their promotion of various bits of legislation which disproportionately affect minorities, some might actually see that race is a real problem for the GOP. The demographics are changing and some folks don't like it. Whether you think it is racism or not, there are many Americans of European descent who fear living in a nation where they have become the minority. They may not advocate blatant racial discrimination but all too often they remain silent in the face of actions by a more virulent minority of their number.




The question then becomes - Can brown and black work together in opposition to well-funded white groups refusing to cede their place at the top of society, even as the whites become a smaller percentage of the population? Or could we have a situation as during the 'good ol' days' when the powerful elites in the South suppressed the labour movement by promoting racism amongst poor whites and as a result both poor whites and blacks were screwed.


All this is running on the assumption that nothing changes within parties which is a really bad flaw to run with being that the Dixie-crats of yester-year were the anti-civil rights politicians that then fled the Democratic party when Lyndon Johnson signed the civil rights bill into law. Parties change... but as of now, the GOP is sure as hell selling out their future as much as possible to grasp what they can now. It is going to blow up in their face rather badly IMO with their Southern strategy and their expanded Southwestern strategy in place... along with that whole war on women that they try to deny by mouth but confirm by action.
 
"last chance" nonsense is nonsense.

i remember in the early 2000s when Limbaugh declared that the Republican majority meant the Democrats were going to be out of power for a generation. if the repubs lose this time around, they'll be a force to be reckoned with in '16 due to Democratic presidential fatigue in the general public. this is an observable cycle.

I don't know about that. I think that the next four years is going to see economic rebound, regardless of whose president, that can be a wave to ride in 2016. By 2016 the Eurpean economic crises won't be a yoke around our economic necks and they'll rebound into a stronger purchaser of our goods. IMO... whomever wins in 2012 will be looking rather good in 2016. If Obama wins, the GOP will have no excuses for why the economy turned around after GW Bush and if Romney wins he'll take credit for the economic turn-around that is already happening but will happen even greater in the next four years.

what is coming to an end, however, is any tolerance for anti-homosexual candidates. the younger generations reject those views outright, and they will go the way of the anti-interracial marriage / segregation movements. the republicans will eventually drop this plank.

The future is definitely looking brighter for liberty and equality.
 
Oh, it can be, you know. Take the disintegration of the British Liberal Party in the Twentieth Century - huge majority in 1906, almost dead by 1950. What looks like strength can just be a loud voice and a lot of muscle-flexing by people who are way over the hill.

The GOP has been in existence since the 1850s. Certainly we had previous big political parties which had much shorter lifespans, but since the mid-19th century, that has not been the case. In that time, there had been enormous platform evolutions, which to this day, become complicated to explain to people. That is the strength of the Democratic and Republican parties.
 
We've had 50 years of this "help" - where has it gotten us? If the goal is to make "race not an issue," I'd recommend that white people concentrate on trying to educate themselves, thank you very much.

I'd recommend that black people stop blaming white people for **** that happened before they were born
 
I'd recommend that black people stop blaming white people for **** that happened before they were born

YEAH! Racism and its effects have been over for decades. It is fin.. end... kaput... no-more!
 
With all of the debate, not only in this forum but elsewhere across America, as to whether or not the Republicans are 'playing the race card' in their promotion of various bits of legislation which disproportionately affect minorities, some might actually see that race is a real problem for the GOP. The demographics are changing and some folks don't like it. Whether you think it is racism or not, there are many Americans of European descent who fear living in a nation where they have become the minority. They may not advocate blatant racial discrimination but all too often they remain silent in the face of actions by a more virulent minority of their number.




The question then becomes - Can brown and black work together in opposition to well-funded white groups refusing to cede their place at the top of society, even as the whites become a smaller percentage of the population? Or could we have a situation as during the 'good ol' days' when the powerful elites in the South suppressed the labour movement by promoting racism amongst poor whites and as a result both poor whites and blacks were screwed.


comedy and desperation in Libville..
 
:eek:t


that was really relevant - NOT


completly relevent considering Holder didnt prosecute....

please dont tell us whats relevenet or not becasue you refuse to "get it"...
 
YEAH! Racism and its effects have been over for decades. It is fin.. end... kaput... no-more!

you may want to tell Obama that..he loves playing the race card
 
YEAH! Racism and its effects have been over for decades. It is no more. Fin.. end... kaput... no-more!

and everyone knows that ALL whites are racists. :roll:

funny how "you people" are always wetting yourself and squealing about how :2bigcry: "unfair" it is to stereotype all blacks as thugs and criminals due to the actions of a few, yet you have no problem blaming all white people for the attitudes and actions of a few.

hypocrisy...what a liberal concept
 
and everyone knows that ALL whites are racists. :roll:

And who the hell ever said that other than you just now?

funny how "you people" are always wetting yourself and squealing about how :2bigcry: "unfair" it is to stereotype all blacks as thugs and criminals due to the actions of a few, yet you have no problem blaming all white people for the attitudes and actions of a few.

hypocrisy...what a liberal concept

Thing is, I never did...

lack of critical thinking....what a conservative concept
 
All this is running on the assumption that nothing changes within parties which is a really bad flaw to run with being that the Dixie-crats of yester-year were the anti-civil rights politicians that then fled the Democratic party when Lyndon Johnson signed the civil rights bill into law. Parties change... but as of now, the GOP is sure as hell selling out their future as much as possible to grasp what they can now. It is going to blow up in their face rather badly IMO with their Southern strategy and their expanded Southwestern strategy in place... along with that whole war on women that they try to deny by mouth but confirm by action.


Marc Thiessen: Romney’s play for Michigan - The Washington Post
Michigan, Wisconsin, Ohio, Indiana, Missouri, Iowa? Southwestern indeed. If Chicago werent ****ing up the Illinois election process, it would be in play, too.

As for selling out the future, I know which group of people is tackling the problem of unfunded liabilities in medicare and social security and which people are not doing so. The responsible adults in the room seem to belong to the GOP and not the dems. Remind me, when was the last time the Dems even tried to pass a budget?
 
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