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Bobcat said:
wrong, Bush and Romney are not marxist collectivists.
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Hahahahah, I think that many times people have no idea what "marxist" actually means. Rombama is no different than Obamney.
 
Navy Pride said:
Decent start??????????:lamo we are down over a million jobs since he took office..........
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Was this an admission that you don't understand that the Great Bush Recesssion kept right on recessing for another five months after Obama was inaugurated? Longer than that of course for a lagging variable such as employment.

By the way...

Employed at Jan 2009: 142,187K/
Employed at Dec 2009: 137,968K
Employed at July 2012: 142,220K
 
Ikari said:
Hahahahah, I think that many times people have no idea what "marxist" actually means. Rombama is no different than Obamney.
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"from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs" Marx

"we need to redistribute the wealth" Obama

Don't play smart*** with me. its quite obvious that obama is a marxist collectivist. If you have some evidence that Romney shares those views please post it.
 
Cardinal Fang said:
Was this an admission that you don't understand that the Great Bush Recesssion kept right on recessing for another five months after Obama was inaugurated? Longer than that of course for a lagging variable such as employment.

By the way...

Employed at Jan 2009: 142,187K/
Employed at Dec 2009: 137,968K
Employed at July 2012: 142,220K
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the dem mantra of 2008-2012 and beyond-----------bush did it,, bush did it, bush did it, obama is just an innocent victim, he is responsible for nothing.

are you people as dumb as you seem?
 
Bobcat said:
"from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs" Marx

"we need to redistribute the wealth" Obama

Don't play smart*** with me. its quite obvious that obama is a marxist collectivist. If you have some evidence that Romney shares those views please post it.
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Mmmmhmmmm, those who fought the old aristocracies to gain their economic freedom must have been marxist too? It's only obvious that Obama is a marxist collectivist if you have no idea what marxism, communism, is all about. Both Obamney and Rombama pander to the corporate entity, they're corporatists, not marxists. Corporatism is the cornerstone of fascism, not communism.
 
Bobcat said:
the dem mantra of 2008-2012 and beyond-----------bush did it,, bush did it, bush did it, obama is just an innocent victim, he is responsible for nothing.

are you people as dumb as you seem?
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Clinton did it, Clinton did it, Clinton did it. Heard that one like 7 years into Bush's Presidency.

Are you people as dumb as you seem?
 
The Captain said:
Total failure is failure to all degrees. It doesnt matter if you are left, right, green, or anything in between, Obama is the worst failure this country has EVER seen. I had high hopes that he might have something new or good to offer but nothing but catastrophic failure from day one. It is very simple, no matter what your political stance give someone else a chance at the highest office in the land. Even I don't think Romney can screw things up as bad as Obama has. Obama =TOTAL FAILURE
The future of our great country is at hand right now and we have to reverse this downhill spiral we are on.
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He may not be independent, but he is spot on in acknowledging the obvious fact that Obama has failed by almost any standard.
 
Ikari said:
Clinton did it, Clinton did it, Clinton did it. Heard that one like 7 years into Bush's Presidency.

Are you people as dumb as you seem?
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Why on earth would "Clinton did it" go on 7 years of successful economics during the the Bush presidency? Some people are actually as stupid as they seem.
 
Bobcat said:
"from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs" Marx
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Borrowed from that Jesus of Nazareth guy.

Bobcat said:
"we need to redistribute the wealth" Obama
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Borrowed from George W Bush. Obama merely wants it to go back in the direction it came from.
 
Meathead said:
Why on earth would "Clinton did it" go on 7 years of successful economics during the the Bush presidency? Some people are actually as stupid as they seem.
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Ask the Bush Admin and Repubs...it was a mantra dutifully sung for as long as they could sing it.
 
Bobcat said:
the dem mantra of 2008-2012 and beyond-----------bush did it,, bush did it, bush did it, obama is just an innocent victim, he is responsible for nothing. are you people as dumb as you seem?
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Let's see. You don't/can't/won't claim that Bush in fact DIDN'T do it. Yet you think that people who point out that yes, in fact he DID do it are the dumb ones??? That's really weirded out.
 
Meathead said:
He may not be independent, but he is spot on in acknowledging the obvious fact that Obama has failed by almost any standard.
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Recession ended? Troops out of Iraq? bin Laden dead? HCR passed? Why not just be a blind person...
 
Meathead said:
Why on earth would "Clinton did it" go on 7 years of successful economics during the the Bush presidency? Some people are actually as stupid as they seem.
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LOL! After inheriting an unemployment rate of 4.2%, Bush had us on federal emergency unemployment benefits by March 2002 and through all of 2003. Maybe your memory isn't quite so good. While it was built on a base of switching out US labor for low-cost foreign labor and spending down home equity, Bush had a decent economy in 2004-06. The rest ranged from pretty poor to of course totally disastrous.
 
Bobcat said:
"from each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs" Marx

"we need to redistribute the wealth" Obama

Don't play smart*** with me. its quite obvious that obama is a marxist collectivist. If you have some evidence that Romney shares those views please post it.
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It is not honest to say that Obama said he wants to redistribute wealth. Both sides are trying to redistribute wealth through the tax system. The GOP wants to distribute more wealth to the top and cut social progams, and the left want to distrubute wealth through the social safety net. The fact is, our economy is in trouble. Raising taxes on those who can bare the burden best has always been a solution in the past to pay down the debt. People who do not have jobs because the economy tanked can not bare that burden. It is as simple as that. There is no attempt to make it so that everyone has the same income. True re-distributoin of wealth based on a pure socialist system would mean that everyone is equal in income.
 
Hairytic said:
It is not honest to say that Obama said he wants to redistribute wealth. Both sides are trying to redistribute wealth through the tax system. The GOP wants to distribute more wealth to the top and cut social progams, and the left want to distrubute wealth through the social safety net. The fact is, our economy is in trouble. Raising taxes on those who can bare the burden best has always been a solution in the past to pay down the debt. People who do not have jobs because the economy tanked can not bare that burden. It is as simple as that. There is no attempt to make it so that everyone has the same income. True re-distributoin of wealth based on a pure socialist system would mean that everyone is equal in income.
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What concerns me is that more Americans aren't screaming what you just said at the top of their lungs. Pay down our debt!! Now that the economy is stabilized, raises taxes to pay down the debt.
 
hazlnut said:
What concerns me is that more Americans aren't screaming what you just said at the top of their lungs. Pay down our debt!! Now that the economy is stabilized, raises taxes to pay down the debt.
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Right. Two things will fix the debt problem. Raising taxes to the same rate they were at during the Clinton Admin. and find ways to create jobs. I think the best way to get the jobs ball rolling is to invest in infrastructure. I also think that we should only provide corporate welfare to those companies that provide jobs for Americans, it will cause job creation.
 
Another Lurker said:
Hmmm ... and how many lost jobs? Remember, the unemployment figures are for first time applications. Methinks that when totaled up over the Kenyan's tenure is more than the 4.5 million. I guess that the rise in unemployment percentages also shoot a few holes in your contention.

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Me thinks English not good language to speak correctly.

If you want to talk figures, give me the number of art (and other worthless majors) that were released into the work force over these 3 years that can't find work. Wanna go ahead and subtract how many of those new unemployed came from government jobs because of budget difficulties?

I could give you additions and subtractions to that list all day but I assume you maybe get the point. There are graphs everywhere of job growth and decline with millions of private jobs created with millions governement ones lost. Maybe we should look at the "measure once, cut twice: beliefs of the neoconservatives in washington yes?
 
TheLastIndependent said:
Me thinks English not good language to speak correctly.
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White man speak with one tongue. Me makum error in white man speak. Got to go to teepee to put nose in corner.

TheLastIndependent said:
Maybe we should look at the "measure once, cut twice: beliefs of the neoconservatives in washington yes?
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White man makum joke. Maybe white man show what him think with neoconservatives word. Now white man speak with TWO tongues. Gotta find another corner in teepee for white man nose.

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