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Romney gives $100 mil TAX FREE to his kids [W:237]

This was posted as part of another thread. Read the comments on the linked piece for the debunk. Really, get debunked in one thread? Just start a whole new one fresh. Lame.
 
From the article:

Mitt and Ann Romney appear to have complied with the law. What’s at fault is the law.
 
Also a good example of the type of thing that one can find out by looking at tax returns....

I heard a new term today: Forensic Accountant. Accountants who are experts at looking at someone's tax returns and being able to decide how they are hiding their money...
 
This was posted as part of another thread. Read the comments on the linked piece for the debunk. Really, get debunked in one thread? Just start a whole new one fresh. Lame.

Perhaps you can point out specifically where it was debunked, because I'm not seeing it.
 
Perhaps you can point out specifically where it was debunked, because I'm not seeing it.

C'mon Adam, don't play silly games, it was the first comment, I'll quote again for this lame attempt at a do-over thread:

In apparent service to a political agenda, the author has buried the lead. Deeply. Four paragraphs down he points out that, "..the Romneys’ gift-tax avoidance strategy is perfectly legal." And suggesting that it is a preference available only to the wealthy is a bit disingenuous. An X% tax break is always more valuable (in absolute dollar terms, at least)to a taxpayer who is applying the benefit to a larger sum than it is to a taxpayer who is applying it to a smaller sum. But it isn't just big investment fund managers to whom the law applies. It's everyone. If you and I form a partnership to which you contribute $9,000 and I contribute $1,000, and I agree to manage the investment of our $10,000 in exchange for 10% of the profits, and then we split the remaining profits 90-10, I can give that partnership interest away before any profits are realized with the same low valuation applicable to hedge fund managers of any political stripe.
Whether this is a good idea as a matter of tax policy is both debatable and, I submit, complicated by the application of the underlying principles in other contexts. Perhaps the rule needs to be changed. But to suggest that it is a benefit only for the mega-wealthy managers of multi-billion dollar investment funds just isn't right. And to imply tacitly that Romney is somehow a less desirable candidate because he is well-advised on how to avoid paying more than the maximum amount of taxes the law requires him to pay is misguided. There are plenty of real issues on which a Presidential campaign ought to be focused.
 
Maybe if we didn't have such a brutally high Estate Tax, this wouldn't be necessary at all.
 
Just because you CAN...doesn't always mean that you SHOULD.

I'm not going to give the government anymore than I'm legally obligated to. They're irresponsible jerks with our money. Why should Romney have to?
 
I'm not going to give the government anymore than I'm legally obligated to. They're irresponsible jerks with our money. Why should Romney have to?

That's something that the American people should be able to decide. I suspect that this is just one of hundreds of ways that Romney avoids paying taxes, including his offshore accounts in the cayman islands, his swiss bank accounts and god only knows what else. Romney should stop hiding his actions and let the America people decide if it is relevant to their vote or not.....they might agree with you, but shouldn't they at least know what they are getting into...or should they just accept Romney at his "word"?
 
That's something that the American people should be able to decide. I suspect that this is just one of hundreds of ways that Romney avoids paying taxes, including his offshore accounts in the cayman islands, his swiss bank accounts and god only knows what else. Romney should stop hiding his actions and let the America people decide if it is relevant to their vote or not.....they might agree with you, but shouldn't they at least know what they are getting into...or should they just accept Romney at his "word"?

The American people have no right to the personal finances, college transcripts, or list of former significant others of any presidential candidate. Everybody, even the POTUS or candidate for same, has a right to privacy.

People are on a financial witch hunt, spurred on by the class warfare cattle drivers. It's a waste of everybody's time and it's petty.
 
The American people have no right to the personal finances, college transcripts, or list of former significant others of any presidential candidate. Everybody, even the POTUS or candidate for same, has a right to privacy.

People are on a financial witch hunt, spurred on by the class warfare cattle drivers. It's a waste of everybody's time and it's petty.
You are wrong. The law requires the release of tax information, albeit, minimal, however, that makes it different than college transcripts and other things. Furthermore, history of those running for President dictates a culture of the release of more than the law requires. Romney's refusal to release them simply shows that he believes he is above everyone else. The man needs to come clean with the American people, but he can't because of what is in his records.
 
You are wrong. The law requires the release of tax information, albeit, minimal, however, that makes it different than college transcripts and other things. Furthermore, history of those running for President dictates a culture of the release of more than the law requires. Romney's refusal to release them simply shows that he believes he is above everyone else. The man needs to come clean with the American people, but he can't because of what is in his records.

Since Romney is not being charged for violating any law regarding tax disclosure I assume he's met the legal requirements. Anything further is just unnecessary baiting.

As for the "history of those running" comment...it's been mentioned several times that several recent candidates/elected presidents didn't release more than 2 years worth, so whatever.
 
Since Romney is not being charged for violating any law regarding tax disclosure I assume he's met the legal requirements. Anything further is just unnecessary baiting.

Not at all. Just because you technically "complied" with the law, doesn't mean that you have the integrity to hold the highest office in the land. Obviously Romney knows this and is afraid what the disclosure of his tax records will do to his integrity. If there was nothing there to hide from the American people, he would release them. The fact that he won't come clean, should clearly display that the man wants to hide something from the American people...something that if the people of this country knew, they would not vote for him.
 
You are wrong. The law requires the release of tax information, albeit, minimal, however, that makes it different than college transcripts and other things. Furthermore, history of those running for President dictates a culture of the release of more than the law requires. Romney's refusal to release them simply shows that he believes he is above everyone else. The man needs to come clean with the American people, but he can't because of what is in his records.

Since you 100% speculate about everything else. Tell me what's in Romney's tax returns that you think he's hiding.

Go.....
 
Not at all. Just because you technically "complied" with the law, doesn't mean that you have the integrity to hold the highest office in the land. Obviously Romney knows this and is afraid what the disclosure of his tax records will do to his integrity. If there was nothing there to hide from the American people, he would release them. The fact that he won't come clean, should clearly display that the man wants to hide something from the American people...something that if the people of this country knew, they would not vote for him.

For Pete sake, dont talk to me about integrity. Integrity meant nothing to you when it came to Obama. Why isn't Obama coming clean about his time at Columbia? I don't see you clamoring to know that information.

Geeez....do you have no shame at all? Does your hypocrisy have no limits?
 
Not at all. Just because you technically "complied" with the law, doesn't mean that you have the integrity to hold the highest office in the land. Obviously Romney knows this and is afraid what the disclosure of his tax records will do to his integrity. If there was nothing there to hide from the American people, he would release them. The fact that he won't come clean, should clearly display that the man wants to hide something from the American people...something that if the people of this country knew, they would not vote for him.
Oh look! A new breed of "birthers!" - they took the old argument and replaced "Obama" with "Romney" and "birth certificate" with "tax records!"
 
People are on a financial witch hunt, spurred on by the class warfare cattle drivers. It's a waste of everybody's time and it's petty.

Sorry, but cut the class warfare bull****. Republicans are out there telling us that the rich need even more tax cuts so that they can really start creating jobs, and they aren't right now because they are paying way too much, mean while they elect a guy who is a perfect example as to why people are clamoring for reform. When people see that he has paid 13% on his taxes and is able to legally shark the system because of loopholes that other rich people and businesses lobbied for, it upsets everyday people. It has nothing to do with a hatred for the rich or any other talking point drivel.
 
Since you 100% speculate about everything else. Tell me what's in Romney's tax returns that you think he's hiding.

Go.....
The tax records no doubt prove that Romney was born in Africa.
 
Just because you CAN...doesn't always mean that you SHOULD.

You mean if it's legal you should not do it? If the IRS say you can do this, you say you should not. What kind of logic is that?
 
Since Romney is not being charged for violating any law regarding tax disclosure I assume he's met the legal requirements. Anything further is just unnecessary baiting.

As for the "history of those running" comment...it's been mentioned several times that several recent candidates/elected presidents didn't release more than 2 years worth, so whatever.

Then lets write a law that says union leaders can ripp off and murder CEO's during any strike. Then murder will be fine right?
 
Sorry, but cut the class warfare bull****. Republicans are out there telling us that the rich need even more tax cuts so that they can really start creating jobs, and they aren't right now because they are paying way too much, mean while they elect a guy who is a perfect example as to why people are clamoring for reform. When people see that he has paid 13% on his taxes and is able to legally shark the system because of loopholes that other rich people and businesses lobbied for, it upsets everyday people. It has nothing to do with a hatred for the rich or any other talking point drivel.

And who is clamoring for reform, the Republicans, they want to close the loopholes.

But you have people like Reid and Pelosi and so many other rich Democrats that love those loopholes. The Dems controlled all three branches of government and could pass any legislation they wanted any time they wanted. Did they take on tax reform? NO
 
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