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Pennsylvania voter ID law gets approval from state judge. Might effect the election

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Republicans doing everything to stop blacks, poor, and women from voting.

Gov. Tom Corbett said the state will focus on ensuring that those who want to vote have the necessary identification. And Secretary of the Commonwealth Carol Aichele, whose department oversees elections in Pennsylvania, said she welcomed the ruling. “By giving us a reliable way to verify the identity of each voter, the voter ID law will enhance confidence in our elections,” she said.




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The battle in Harrisburg is one of dozens being waged in courtrooms in Washington and across the country involving new voting laws. The Justice Department has objected to statutes in several states, including Texas, South Carolina and Florida, where changes in voting laws must be approved by federal authorities or the courts.
Cases of voter impersonation fraud — the kind that would be stopped by photo ID laws — are exceedingly rare. Pennsylvania acknowledged that such fraud had not occurred in the commonwealth, nor was it likely to occur in the coming election, even without the law.
But the state said that requiring ID is a rational way to protect the voting process and that the legislature had that right under the state constitution.
The law’s opponents said hundreds of thousands of Pennsylvanians who have voted all their lives nevertheless lack the specific kind of photo ID now required to vote, as well as the documents they need to get such an ID.
Simpson was skeptical of the challengers’ estimates. He said he believed that more than 1 percent of the state’s more than 8 million voters lack the required ID, but he did not accept the opponents’ estimate of 9 percent.
He cited pledges by the secretary of state to streamline the process for requesting IDs. With the availability of absentee voting and the acceptance of votes on a provisional basis, Simpson said, he was not convinced that any of the petitioners “will not have their votes counted in the general election.”
The law allows voters who lack the required ID to cast a provisional ballot; their vote would be counted if they could later provide the needed identification.
While the challenge was brought under the state constitution, Simpson’s opinion was heavily influenced by a 2008 decision by the U.S. Supreme Court that seemed to give states the green light to require voters to present photo IDs. In the court’s lead opinion, Justice John Paul Stevens, now retired, said that such a law in Indiana was a reasonable reaction to the threat of voter fraud, “amply justified by the valid interest in protecting the integrity and reliability of the electoral process.”
Simpson said he considered complaints that Pennsylvania’s law was motivated by partisan interests, noting what he called the “disturbing, tendentious statements” by state House Majority Leader Mike Turzai (R).
Turzai listed the law as an accomplishment at a meeting of GOP activists, saying, “Voter ID — which is going to allow Governor Romney to win the state of Pennsylvania — done.”

But Simpson said there was no proof that other lawmakers shared Turzai’s “boastful” view. Even if there were partisan motivations, the judge said, the Supreme Court’s decision in the Indiana case held that a nondiscriminatory law should not be invalidated simply because some legislators had partisan motivations.


Pennsylvania voter ID law gets approval from state judge - The Washington Post
 
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Re: Pennsylvania voter ID law gets approval from state judge. Might effect the elect

The judge even considered the implications of this law being put in place due to partisanship and saw no evidence that the law would substantially prevent any voter fraud and still thought it would be a good idea to let it pass.
 
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How could a judge see the implications of his decision in being that it could disenfranchise a large number of eligible voters within months of a presidential election and still let this **** pass?
 
Re: Pennsylvania voter ID law gets approval from state judge. Might effect the elect

How could a judge see the implications of his decision in being that it could disenfranchise a large number of eligible voters within months of a presidential election and still let this **** pass?

I'm inclined to think that, in fairness, this shouldn't be implemented for six months or something. The timing is horrible.

Edit: Wait a minute!! What does this have to do with blacks, the poor and women??

Any man who tries to excite class hatred, sectional hate, hate of creeds, any kind of hatred in our community, though he may affect to do it in the interest of the class he is addressing, is in the long run with absolute certainly that class's own worst enemy.” Theodore Roosevelt
 
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Goodness! Out-of-state citizens and illegal immigrants won't be able to vote! The horror!!!
 
Re: Pennsylvania voter ID law gets approval from state judge. Might effect the elect

I am a very socially liberal guy, but a voter ID law just makes sense. As long as the accepted form of ID is the readily available, common forms of ID that currently exist, the thought that the law will keep eligable voters away is ludicrous to me.

Where it becomes an issue is if it becomes a special ID... That opens the door to all sorts of abuses.
 
Re: Pennsylvania voter ID law gets approval from state judge. Might effect the elect

Goodness! Out-of-state citizens and illegal immigrants won't be able to vote! The horror!!!

Neither will the dead or felons two of Hussein Obama's favorite voters......
 
Re: Pennsylvania voter ID law gets approval from state judge. Might effect the elect

How could a judge see the implications of his decision in being that it could disenfranchise a large number of eligible voters within months of a presidential election and still let this **** pass?

Why will it disenfrnachise anyone? All they have to do is get and ID card........The democrats don't like it because its stops felons, the dead and illegals from voting......
 
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