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Reagan's Budget director calls Ryans plan "Fairytale"

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Reagan Budget Director: Paul Ryan


The former director of the Office of Management and Budget for the Reagan administration, David Stockman, blasts Paul Ryan's budget plan in a New York Times op-ed.
Stockman calls the budget an "empty conservative sermon" and "fairy tale" and says it will "do nothing to reverse the nation's economic decline and arrest its fiscal collapse."


Specifically, Stockman observes, Ryan's "phony" budget plan:

•Maintains Defense spending that is nearly twice the $400 billion (adjusted for today's dollars) that General Eisenhower spent in the 1960s
•Shreds the safety net provided by $100 billion in food stamps and $300 billion in Medicaid
•Does not cut one dime from Medicare or Social Security for another decade
•Includes no serious plan to create jobs
•Radically cuts taxes on the richest Americans while eliminating tax breaks that mostly help the middle class
•Fails to even consider a "value-added sales tax," which is the only way the country can begin to climb out of its budget hole


Its pretty bad when even Conservative Republicans call Ryan out on his radical "ideas". Proving once and again that the man that most Republicans love to embrace would never be able to get past the nomination in today's extremist GOP.
 
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Reagan wasn't a fiscal conservative. He was a social conservative who sucked off a lot of evangelical dick to get elected. Ryan is at the very least trying. You have to give him that much credit. I think he's going in the wrong direction. But there is no doubt in my head that he's one of the few people who is engaging this discussion beyond political platitudes.
 
Hatuey said:
Reagan wasn't a fiscal conservative. He was a social conservative who sucked off a lot of evangelical dick to get elected. Ryan is at the very least trying. You have to give him that much credit. I think he's going in the wrong direction. But there is no doubt in my head that he's one of the few people who is engaging this discussion beyond political platitudes.
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No. I don't bonus points for "trying". A bad plan is a bad plan....
 
Hatuey said:
Reagan wasn't a fiscal conservative. He was a social conservative who sucked off a lot of evangelical dick to get elected. Ryan is at the very least trying. You have to give him that much credit. I think he's going in the wrong direction. But there is no doubt in my head that he's one of the few people who is engaging this discussion beyond political platitudes.
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Ryan is just putting numbers to his political platitudes ... which I guess is something.
 
disneydude said:
No. I don't bonus points for "trying". A bad plan is a bad plan....
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What is the plan the Democrats have? More spending no cuts? Yeah, that ain't much of a plan either. It's protocol. The end of the story is that Ryan's plan says what we're all on the left are avoiding: cuts. We need to make cuts. How much? That needs to be discussed. However, whenever we get over the bitching about the hit we'll all have to take.

Obama is saying what Republicans are avoiding: higher taxes. Taxes NEED to be raised on not just the rich but EVERYONE. The rich weren't the ones who spent us into 15 trillion dollars of debt.

For 30 years YOUR generation cared very little about how my generation would deal with your Friedman voodoo magic and reckless Liberal spending.

Now it's time for Ryan and Obama to come to a middle ground and simply say: We need to get the **** out of debt. We're jacking up taxes and cutting spending until further notice.
 
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Hatuey said:
What is the plan the Democrats have? More spending no cuts? Yeah, that ain't much of a plan either. It's protocol. The end of the story is that Ryan's plan says what we're all on the left are avoiding: cuts. We need to make cuts. How much? That needs to be discussed. However, whenever we get over the bitching about the hit we'll all have to take.

Obama is saying what Republicans are avoiding: higher taxes. Taxes NEED to be raised on not just the rich but EVERYONE. The rich weren't the ones who spent us into 15 trillion dollars of debt.

For 30 years YOUR generation cared very little about how my generation would deal with your Friedman voodoo magic and reckless Liberal spending.

Now it's time for Ryan and Obama to come to a middle ground and simply say: We need to get the **** out of debt. We're jacking up taxes and cutting spending until further notice.
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Obama and the Democrats have made many spending cuts and have always been willing to discuss cuts. Just not the cuts to medicare/medicaid and Social Security that is at the heart of the Ryan plan. How is it that a plan that cuts trillions of dollars for the wealthy and pays for them with huge cuts to the elderly and the poor earn bonus point to Ryan simply because he submitted a plan?
 
Hatuey said:
What is the plan the Democrats have? More spending no cuts? Yeah, that ain't much of a plan either. It's protocol. The end of the story is that Ryan's plan says what we're all on the left are avoiding: cuts. We need to make cuts. How much? That needs to be discussed. However, whenever we get over the bitching about the hit we'll all have to take.

Obama is saying what Republicans are avoiding: higher taxes. Taxes NEED to be raised on not just the rich but EVERYONE. The rich weren't the ones who spent us into 15 trillion dollars of debt.

For 30 years YOUR generation cared very little about how my generation would deal with your Friedman voodoo magic and reckless Liberal spending.

Now it's time for Ryan and Obama to come to a middle ground and simply say: We need to get the **** out of debt. We're jacking up taxes and cutting spending until further notice.
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my god, this correct.
 
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