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42% of Americans think selection of Ryan was not a good choice

Bobcat said:
then 58% think is was a good choice. when I was in school, 58 was more than 42
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By the looks of it, that 58% were mostly Democrats. LOL
 
AdamT said:
Yep, not a good pick if Romney was looking for a quick bump. I think most people don't really know who Ryan is. Will be interesting to see what happens when they start to find out....
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Yep. Paul's definitely not a quick bump pick. I don't know if he'll even turn out to be a bump in any fashion...but the one plausible way would be a steady one down the line as he begins to get some air time to talk.

Depending on what the poll was asking I'd possibly be on either side of that 42%. If you asked me politically, I'd say it's a poor pick. If you asked me personally, I'd say it's a good pick. But it definitely isn't a "big splash" pick. Though the only "big splash" ones that I think would've existed in this cycle would've been a Rubio or Christie
 
Zyphlin said:
Yep. Paul's definitely not a quick bump pick. I don't know if he'll even turn out to be a bump in any fashion...but the one plausible way would be a steady one down the line as he begins to get some air time to talk.

Depending on what the poll was asking I'd possibly be on either side of that 42%. If you asked me politically, I'd say it's a poor pick. If you asked me personally, I'd say it's a good pick. But it definitely isn't a "big splash" pick. Though the only "big splash" ones that I think would've existed in this cycle would've been a Rubio or Christie
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The pick is certainly a positive in the sense that it will move the campaigns into substantive debates and make this election more of a referendum on the real issues separating Republicans and Democrats ... versus personalities. Commentators are saying it may have more impact on down-ballot elections that it will on the presidential race.
 
Moot said:
By the looks of it, that 58% were mostly Democrats. LOL
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No, the 42% were mostly Democrats. It's mostly Democrats who think it is a horrible choice due to their simple understanding of politics. Not all independents are moderates.

But something more interesting.
17% say they are more likely to vote for Ryan
12% say they are less likely to vote for Ryan

That is the same as Palin before everyone got to know how dumb she was. Back then even Democrats thought she was a good choice.
 
This poll means nothing, it’s going to come down to if Romney and Ryan can keep the pressure on Obama’s record, and the problems we are now facing.

Obama can’t run on hope and change again …. The change was little and most of it disliked, hope is nearly dead. If Romney and Ryan get on the offensive and make Obama defend his record Obama is a one term president. If Obama can continue to put pressure on Romney / Ryan and keep the debate off things like the economy, the deficit, the unemployment, and our debt then he wins ..
 
The Barbarian said:
This poll means nothing, it’s going to come down to if Romney and Ryan can keep the pressure on Obama’s record, and the problems we are now facing.

Obama can’t run on hope and change again …. The change was little and most of it disliked, hope is nearly dead. If Romney and Ryan get on the offensive and make Obama defend his record Obama is a one term president. If Obama can continue to put pressure on Romney / Ryan and keep the debate off things like the economy, the deficit, the unemployment, and our debt then he wins ..
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Obama only needs to focus on who has the better vision for America. When people hear the details of the Paul Ryan plan, they are overwhelmingly opposed to it. Obama simply needs to let the people know what Ryan's plan is for America and how Romney endorses it.
 
Here's something y'all maybe didn't know about Ryan. Until very recently he opposed the U.S. embargo of Cuba. That's basically like saying you worship Satan to Cuban-Americans in South Florida. Between that and Ryan's Medicare/Social Security positions I think the Ryan pick probably gives Obama a one+ point pickup in the tight, and for Romney absolutely crucial, Florida race.
 
disneydude said:
Obama only needs to focus on who has the better vision for America. When people hear the details of the Paul Ryan plan, they are overwhelmingly opposed to it. Obama simply needs to let the people know what Ryan's plan is for America and how Romney endorses it.
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Agree to that. Obama needs to focus on vague platitudes and let the democrat-run media lie/obfuscate him into office, like he did last election (hopey-changey bull****), since there is no substance to the man or his policies other than pure despotism.
 
vendur said:
Agree to that. Obama needs to focus on vague platitudes and let the democrat-run media lie/obfuscate him into office, like he did last election (hopey-changey bull****), since there is no substance to the man or his policies other than pure despotism.
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You think there is substance to the Mitt "I can't take a position and stick with it" Romney? You talk about "substance"....let's compare what Obama has proposed which has been blocked every time for the "party of no" Republicans....vs. Mr. Etch a Sketch who you can never REALLY know where he stands on anything. I'll have that debate any day of the week.
 
How things are changing...

Wisconsin Congressman Paul Ryan’s favorables are up after the first blush of national media exposure following Mitt Romney’s selection of him as his vice presidential running mate. But as is generally the case with running mates, Ryan gives only a slight boost to Romney.

The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 50% of Likely U.S. Voters now have a favorable opinion of Ryan, while 32% view him unfavorably. This includes 29% with a Very Favorable view of Romney’s vice presidential pick and 13% with a Very Unfavorable one. Only 13% are now unfamiliar with Ryan, and five percent (5%) are not sure about him.
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http://www.rasmussenreports.com/pub...aul_ryan_favorably_43_say_he_was_right_choice
 
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Well, the president hasn't done himself any service by paying so much attention to Ryan being in the race... It just shows how threatened they are by his presence...

Then again... the VP nomination almost always creates a poll bump... We will see how that works out...

Then the conventions do the same...

Then the debates...

It's amazing how many people are flying so far off the cuff about every poll that's released throughout this election process...
 
disneydude said:
Article is here: http://news.yahoo.com/42-americans-think-paul-ryan-not-great
-choice-191741941.html

In a USA Today/Gallup poll out today Paul Ryan is considered by 42 percent of Americans only a "fair" or "poor" choice for Mitt Romney's vice president— a higher number than that of registered voters who put Dick Cheney and Sarah Palin in the same categories after their selection was announced.

This can't be good for the Romney supporters who were hoping for a big boost. Now you know why us Democrats are delighted with the pick.
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50% Now View Paul Ryan Favorably; 43% Say He Was Right Choice

50% Now View Paul Ryan Favorably; 43% Say He Was Right Choice - Rasmussen Reports™
 
disneydude said:
Article is here: http://news.yahoo.com/42-americans-think-paul-ryan-not-great
-choice-191741941.html

In a USA Today/Gallup poll out today Paul Ryan is considered by 42 percent of Americans only a "fair" or "poor" choice for Mitt Romney's vice president— a higher number than that of registered voters who put Dick Cheney and Sarah Palin in the same categories after their selection was announced.

This can't be good for the Romney supporters who were hoping for a big boost. Now you know why us Democrats are delighted with the pick.
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I have no doubt the point of you starting this thread is to show that the people don't like Ryan, and the (R)'s are dumb for selecting him. But I always get a kick out of people that use pools to support their beliefs. "Hey look! Everyone agrees with me!" Funny, when the polls don't agree, you find the same people dismissing them.
 
Born Free said:
I was just going to post that, you beat me to it. Lets add the headline

50% Now View Paul Ryan Favorably; 43% Say He Was Right Choice
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Sorry for the duplicate post my friend.
 
disneydude said:
Article is here: http://news.yahoo.com/42-americans-think-paul-ryan-not-great
-choice-191741941.html

In a USA Today/Gallup poll out today Paul Ryan is considered by 42 percent of Americans only a "fair" or "poor" choice for Mitt Romney's vice president— a higher number than that of registered voters who put Dick Cheney and Sarah Palin in the same categories after their selection was announced.

This can't be good for the Romney supporters who were hoping for a big boost. Now you know why us Democrats are delighted with the pick.
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Laughable debunked poll

The far left and MSM are getting desperate

Look at the samples. What a joke.
 
PerfectStorm said:
I hope they take this poll after Ryan wipes the floor with Biden in the debate.
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Yeah, because as we all know, Vice Presidential debates are so important to the result of Presidential elections!:lamo
 
Born Free said:
I was just going to post that, you beat me to it. Lets add the headline

50% Now View Paul Ryan Favorably; 43% Say He Was Right Choice
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and this from a Rasmussen poll! I'm stunned!
 
Bronson said:
Laughable debunked poll

The far left and MSM are getting desperate

Look at the samples. What a joke.
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I know the poll doesn't mean anything, just from the nature of what it's asking, but what's wrong with the methodology of it?
 
TurtleDude said:
Biden is one of the least intellectually capable men to ever hold the office. Far less intelligent than even Dan Quayle. Biden uses almost 40 years of experience in government speak to pretend he is intelligent.

he was a loser as a student, he flunked the bar and has been sucking on the public teat for almost all his adult life

no wonder why people like you worship him
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Did you hear Biden's latest comments in front of a black audience in Va? He said and I paraphrase Romney and Ryan want to put Blacks back in chains.
 
disneydude said:
You are incorrect. Obama backers by and large think that this is a fantastic selection. It is the moderate Republicans that are scratching their heads and saying WTF was he thinking!
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You are absolutely wrong.......Even Hussein Obama's supporters are fed up with his lies and brokem promises....Many will stay home or vote for Romeny.......You need to quit drinking the koolaid.
 
Anagram said:
I know the poll doesn't mean anything, just from the nature of what it's asking, but what's wrong with the methodology of it?
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Look at who was sampled and how many

What's missing
 
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