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Since We're All Interested In Full Disclosure (Obama's College Records)

Bronson

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Since there are about 10 threads on the front page about Romney's Tax Returns, in the interest of creating a fair and balanced political debate, I would like to get Obama Supporters on record.

Do you believe in full academic disclosure for presidential candidates? You know, to prove that they didn't fail important subjects like Economics?
 
Bronson said:
Since there are about 10 threads on the front page about Romney's Tax Returns, in the interest of creating a fair and balanced political debate, I would like to get Obama Supporters on record.

Do you believe in full academic disclosure for presidential candidates? You know, to prove that they didn't fail important subjects like Economics?
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What if Obama had not failed economics, what would it matter? Its not like passing economics in college makes you qualified to make economic decisions like the President has to.
 
Wiseone said:
What if Obama had not failed economics, what would it matter? Its not like passing economics in college makes you qualified to make economic decisions like the President has to.
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We know Romney paid 2,800,000 in taxes in one year. He is going to release 2 years of tax returns. So why does an additional 10 years matter?

So let's compare. 2 years of Romney Tax records. How many years of College Transcripts has Obama released?
 
Bronson said:
We know Romney paid 2,800,000 in taxes in one year. He is going to release 2 years of tax returns. So why does an additional 10 years matter?

So let's compare. 2 years of Romney Tax records. How many years of College Transcripts has Obama released?
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How many have the past presidents released?
 
Where are Romney's college transcripts? What is he trying to hide? I heard it on good authority that he took four semesters of home economics.
 
Bronson said:
Since there are about 10 threads on the front page about Romney's Tax Returns, in the interest of creating a fair and balanced political debate, I would like to get Obama Supporters on record.

Do you believe in full academic disclosure for presidential candidates? You know, to prove that they didn't fail important subjects like Economics?
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I have never claimed Romney was requred to disclose his tax returns.
 
A little perspective...

Pushing for President Obama to release his college transcripts makes sense only when the emphasis is on education. In that regard, the GOP missed their opportunity to make non-release of his transcripts an issue each time he pushed his education agenda or spoke out on the importance of education K-12 and beyond.

Romney's tax returns are important to alot of people for the following reasons:

1) Hypocricy. We've heard the argument from Republican voters and politicians alike concerning low income wage earners who don't pay federal income taxes yet receive a tax return. How would it look to the American people if it turns out that the presumptive GOP presidential nominee hasn't paid any federal income taxes for one year let alone a decade?

2) Fairness. President Obama has made a very good argument on the issue of fairness in our tax code. Most people would agree that it's unfair that a person making millions only pays 15% in taxes when the majority of his earnings is derived from capital gains (investment income) when a person who earns a salary working a typical 9-5 jobs pays upwards of 29% in federal income taxes. Most people know there's something inherantly wrong with that.

3) Patriotism. Most people see it as unpatriotic when a person doesn't pay his taxes. In most cases, such a view goes along with those who commit tax evasion. They know that such an act is criminal. On the contrary, it's okay for a person who happens to be a multi-millionaire to use tax loopholes and tax shelters to legally avoid paying taxes. Notice what I said here: It's one thing to use tax loopholes (i.e., pre-tax earnings, charitable and federally authorized tax contributions, tax credits, etc.) to reduce your taxable liability but still pay some federal income taxes. It's completely another to use tax loopholes to completely avoid paying taxes. The problem is made problematic when you're a political candidate who supports maintaining or lowering the tax rate for the wealthiest wage earners while not giving similar support to those at the bottom of the economic ladder. It gets worse if/when it is confirmed that said political candidate moved his money off-shore and hid it in tax shelters abroad to avoid paying taxes.

So, let's keep things in perspective, folks. Trying to go tit-for-tat on record disclosure only works IF you use the same matrix as a comparison. Try as you might to gig the President on principle where his college transcripts are concerned, the two really don't quite measure up to the same level of public scrutiny.
 
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AdamT said:
Where are Romney's college transcripts? What is he trying to hide? I heard it on good authority that he took four semesters of home economics.
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Would 4 semesters of home economics be bad?
 
AdamT said:
Where are Romney's college transcripts? What is he trying to hide? I heard it on good authority that he took four semesters of home economics.
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You and the rest of the Chicago staff only have to try and keep this **** up for another 92 days, good luck.

What does Chicago say about Plouffe taking 100K from an Iranian company. Will he be asked to leave the white house?
 
washunut said:
You and the rest of the Chicago staff only have to try and keep this **** up for another 92 days, good luck.

What does Chicago say about Plouffe taking 100K from an Iranian company. Will he be asked to leave the white house?
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Did the Salt Lake City coven tell you to ask that question (which is of course wrong)?
 
nota bene said:
Some arguments for academic transparency: Articles: Why Obama's College Records Matter
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...the primary reason being...

Many [people] want to see Obama's college records for grades and courses (as with G.W. Bush and others). But in Obama's case, the primary reason to see his college applications is to learn whether the president applied for college in the U.S. as a foreign student.
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Has nothing to do with his grades, course work who just how liberal minded his essays or debates were. It's really the birther issue all over again.
 
It's birther BS. :roll:
 
Not everybody who's curious about Obama's transcripts is a "birther." I've always been very curious, and one reason is simply because Obama's gone to such lengths to conceal them. But I'm not a "birther."

And I thought the Columbia grad made some interesting points--for example, about Columbia's language requirements.
 
nota bene said:
Not everybody who's curious about Obama's transcripts is a "birther." I've always been very curious, and one reason is simply because Obama's gone to such lengths to conceal them. But I'm not a "birther."

And I thought the Columbia grad made some interesting points--for example, about Columbia's language requirements.
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What lengths has he gone to conceal his transcripts? None. In fact by doing nothing they remain private. It would take an affirmative act on his part to make them public.
 
Aberration said:
Would 4 semesters of home economics be bad?
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It wouldn't be good. He could've learned physics, biology, or chemistry. He could've learned philosophy.
 
I would like to see Mitt Romney's transcript. Heck, I can see Obama's tax returns, but only 1 and a partial year of Mitt Romney's. I can see Obama's birth certificate, but it's "fake." The right want's Obama's academic records, for.....I don't even know. Maybe to say, "it's fake," if or when he release it. The left want's Mitt Romney's tax returns, so they can try and prove that he may have committed tax-evasion. Could Obama have failed economics? Maybe, but is that grounds to try and get academic records? Ehh, no. Could Mitt Romney have committed tax-evasion? Maybe, he does have a lot of off shore accounts. but is that grounds to look for it in his taxes? Ehh, yeah. O, I watch Fox Five (Terrible). on the show they were talking about the white house visitor-log and why it should be released, because tax payers pay for it. I don't know much about this one, but thought it was funny. Tax-payers paid for the pentagon and CIA headquaters, but you can't ask them or other agencies that. What makes the White House any diffrent? Our President sleeps there.
 
Obama's education matters because the evangelical right wingers in general hate academia. :shrug:
 
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