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    Since We're All Interested In Full Disclosure (Obama's College Records)

    Since there are about 10 threads on the front page about Romney's Tax Returns, in the interest of creating a fair and balanced political debate, I would like to get Obama Supporters on record.

    Do you believe in full academic disclosure for presidential candidates? You know, to prove that they didn't fail important subjects like Economics?

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    Re: Since We're All Interested In Full Disclosure (Obama's College Records)

    Sure.
    Why not?
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    Re: Since We're All Interested In Full Disclosure (Obama's College Records)

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Since there are about 10 threads on the front page about Romney's Tax Returns, in the interest of creating a fair and balanced political debate, I would like to get Obama Supporters on record.

    Do you believe in full academic disclosure for presidential candidates? You know, to prove that they didn't fail important subjects like Economics?
    What if Obama had not failed economics, what would it matter? Its not like passing economics in college makes you qualified to make economic decisions like the President has to.

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    Re: Since We're All Interested In Full Disclosure (Obama's College Records)

    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseone View Post
    What if Obama had not failed economics, what would it matter? Its not like passing economics in college makes you qualified to make economic decisions like the President has to.
    We know Romney paid 2,800,000 in taxes in one year. He is going to release 2 years of tax returns. So why does an additional 10 years matter?

    So let's compare. 2 years of Romney Tax records. How many years of College Transcripts has Obama released?

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    Re: Since We're All Interested In Full Disclosure (Obama's College Records)

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    We know Romney paid 2,800,000 in taxes in one year. He is going to release 2 years of tax returns. So why does an additional 10 years matter?

    So let's compare. 2 years of Romney Tax records. How many years of College Transcripts has Obama released?
    How many have the past presidents released?
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    Re: Since We're All Interested In Full Disclosure (Obama's College Records)

    Where are Romney's college transcripts? What is he trying to hide? I heard it on good authority that he took four semesters of home economics.
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    Re: Since We're All Interested In Full Disclosure (Obama's College Records)

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    Since there are about 10 threads on the front page about Romney's Tax Returns, in the interest of creating a fair and balanced political debate, I would like to get Obama Supporters on record.

    Do you believe in full academic disclosure for presidential candidates? You know, to prove that they didn't fail important subjects like Economics?
    I have never claimed Romney was requred to disclose his tax returns.
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    Re: Since We're All Interested In Full Disclosure (Obama's College Records)

    Someone told me that obama never even showed up at school for 10 years. Simple way to put an end to this controversy obama, release your records.

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    Re: Since We're All Interested In Full Disclosure (Obama's College Records)

    A little perspective...

    Pushing for President Obama to release his college transcripts makes sense only when the emphasis is on education. In that regard, the GOP missed their opportunity to make non-release of his transcripts an issue each time he pushed his education agenda or spoke out on the importance of education K-12 and beyond.

    Romney's tax returns are important to alot of people for the following reasons:

    1) Hypocricy. We've heard the argument from Republican voters and politicians alike concerning low income wage earners who don't pay federal income taxes yet receive a tax return. How would it look to the American people if it turns out that the presumptive GOP presidential nominee hasn't paid any federal income taxes for one year let alone a decade?

    2) Fairness. President Obama has made a very good argument on the issue of fairness in our tax code. Most people would agree that it's unfair that a person making millions only pays 15% in taxes when the majority of his earnings is derived from capital gains (investment income) when a person who earns a salary working a typical 9-5 jobs pays upwards of 29% in federal income taxes. Most people know there's something inherantly wrong with that.

    3) Patriotism. Most people see it as unpatriotic when a person doesn't pay his taxes. In most cases, such a view goes along with those who commit tax evasion. They know that such an act is criminal. On the contrary, it's okay for a person who happens to be a multi-millionaire to use tax loopholes and tax shelters to legally avoid paying taxes. Notice what I said here: It's one thing to use tax loopholes (i.e., pre-tax earnings, charitable and federally authorized tax contributions, tax credits, etc.) to reduce your taxable liability but still pay some federal income taxes. It's completely another to use tax loopholes to completely avoid paying taxes. The problem is made problematic when you're a political candidate who supports maintaining or lowering the tax rate for the wealthiest wage earners while not giving similar support to those at the bottom of the economic ladder. It gets worse if/when it is confirmed that said political candidate moved his money off-shore and hid it in tax shelters abroad to avoid paying taxes.

    So, let's keep things in perspective, folks. Trying to go tit-for-tat on record disclosure only works IF you use the same matrix as a comparison. Try as you might to gig the President on principle where his college transcripts are concerned, the two really don't quite measure up to the same level of public scrutiny.
    Last edited by Objective Voice; 08-06-12 at 07:06 PM.

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    Re: Since We're All Interested In Full Disclosure (Obama's College Records)

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamT View Post
    Where are Romney's college transcripts? What is he trying to hide? I heard it on good authority that he took four semesters of home economics.
    Would 4 semesters of home economics be bad?
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