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Since We're All Interested In Full Disclosure (Obama's College Records)

nota bene said:
Some arguments for academic transparency: Articles: Why Obama's College Records Matter
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Ugh so sick of this ..do you people have any concept of the difficulty getting into Harvard for law school and then becoming president of the law review? Look it up , its very difficult. You have to be very smart and have a stellar scholastic history..President Obama is probably one of the most intelligent Presidents we have had ! I don't think it matters if his college records would be released but I don't think President Obama is hiding them..I have one in college and one in grad school even I their mother do not get to see their records. Furthermore You Birthers need to give it up ! your stupid claims have been explained or debunked....get over it.
 
AdamT said:
What lengths has he gone to conceal his transcripts? None. In fact by doing nothing they remain private. It would take an affirmative act on his part to make them public.
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Obama's Lost Years - WSJ.com

What can be said with some certainty is that Mr. Obama lived off campus while at Columbia in 1981-83 and made few friends. Fox News contacted some 400 of his classmates and found no one who remembered him. He had transferred from Occidental College in California after his sophomore year because, he told the Boston Globe in 1990, "I was concerned with urban issues and I wanted to be around more black folks in big cities." He got a degree in political science without honors. "For about two years there, I was just painfully alone and really not focused on anything, except maybe thinking a lot," he told his biographer David Mendell.
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Obama has spent more than a million dollars to block access to his college records. What is he hiding?
 
Your link is from 2008!!! David Marannis wrote a biography of Obama he also recently wrote an op Ed in the washington post for all you Obama doubters and haters and Birthers it explains why your accusations are ridiculous . I apologize I cannot do links with my stupid iPad .perhaps tomorrow I will get on the pc and link it for you.
 
Bronson said:
Since there are about 10 threads on the front page about Romney's Tax Returns, in the interest of creating a fair and balanced political debate, I would like to get Obama Supporters on record.

Do you believe in full academic disclosure for presidential candidates? You know, to prove that they didn't fail important subjects like Economics?
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If he wants to release it fine, but decades old documents by the president do not really have much bearing on the election we are now in. Tax disclosure for the past 10 years is relevant.
 
nota bene said:
Oh, it's not just that. There are other reasons to be curious.

Why Obama’s Transcripts Matter - By Greg Pollowitz - Media Blog - National Review Online
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Of course not. It's also to see exactly what courses he took just to further the "liberal/Marxist/Lenonist/Socialist" drum beat.

Now, yesterday Eugene Robinson gave me permission to make assumptions on what the president might be hiding by not releasing his transcripts, and there are a variety of theories out there among Columbia alumni on it — that he lied on his application to gain admittance as a foreign student, that he’s hiding the fact that most of the classes he took might — just might — lean slightly left.
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You guys aren't fooling anybody here. You're barking up the wrong tree trying to make a comparison between Obama releasing his college transcripts and Romney releasing his tax returns. Why? Because it happened so many year ago and most people can care less what college a political candidate let alone a sitting President attended. Besides, as I said previously the time for the GOP to have hit Obama hard on this matter was when he first came onto the sceen (which they did but it didn't gain the expected traction) and each time he spoke out in the affirm education. They didn't do it because they know it's a mote point to most people. They just don't care where their President attended college. But they do care about what transpired in their President's life in the not too distant past - 2 to 5 years. This is why Mitt Romney's federal tax record is so important to some people. It speaks to his character, his patriotism, his ethics and to a degree his compassion for those who may not be as successful as he has become. Yet, I get the point, too, why folks not only want to know not just what classes Obama took while at Columbia U but also how he got there. I just don't think college transcripts versus federal tax history are on the same level. I don't get quite so caught up in it, but I certainly can understand the logic behind most people's thinking. I just don't think one matters as much as the other in the minds of the majority.
 
nota bene said:
Not everybody who's curious about Obama's transcripts is a "birther." I've always been very curious, and one reason is simply because Obama's gone to such lengths to conceal them. But I'm not a "birther."

And I thought the Columbia grad made some interesting points--for example, about Columbia's language requirements.
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I bet you were one of those clamoring for the release of Palin's college transcripts in 08.
 
I would be interested to see the President's transcripts, but like someone already said, he's not building his campaign on his college career, so even if he failed a couple of classes, I don't think it would impact my voting decision. On the other hand, Romney is building his campaign on his fiscal responsibility...
 
Crosscheck said:
I bet you were one of those clamoring for the release of Palin's college transcripts in 08.
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Was anyone claiming that Palin was the next coming or was the brightest person on earth.

These transcripts will be damning because they will probably show that Obama is a normal bright guy.

Not sure why you are so defensive on this point.
 
Debra said:
Ugh so sick of this ..do you people have any concept of the difficulty getting into Harvard for law school and then becoming president of the law review? Look it up , its very difficult. You have to be very smart and have a stellar scholastic history..President Obama is probably one of the most intelligent Presidents we have had ! I don't think it matters if his college records would be released but I don't think President Obama is hiding them..I have one in college and one in grad school even I their mother do not get to see their records. Furthermore You Birthers need to give it up ! your stupid claims have been explained or debunked....get over it.
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its also very expensive. Obama did not come from a wealthy family. How did he pay that very expensive tuition?
 
JRog said:
I would be interested to see the President's transcripts, but like someone already said, he's not building his campaign on his college career, so even if he failed a couple of classes, I don't think it would impact my voting decision. On the other hand, Romney is building his campaign on his fiscal responsibility...
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You guys just don't get it. His college records would help identify who this guy really is, his writings would reveal his ideology.

He came out of nowhere, did nothing as an Ill senator, did nothing as a US senator, never had a real job, had radical friends, had a radical racist pastor.

We are entitled to know everything about our presidential candidates, and we know virtually nothing about Obama, and you who worship him don't care, its amazing.
 
washunut said:
Was anyone claiming that Palin was the next coming or was the brightest person on earth.

These transcripts will be damning because they will probably show that Obama is a normal bright guy.

Not sure why you are so defensive on this point.
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if thats true, they why hide them?
 
Bronson said:
Since there are about 10 threads on the front page about Romney's Tax Returns, in the interest of creating a fair and balanced political debate, I would like to get Obama Supporters on record.

Do you believe in full academic disclosure for presidential candidates? You know, to prove that they didn't fail important subjects like Economics?
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I'd like to see their intellectual prowess on paper.
 
Bobcat said:
if thats true, they why hide them?
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Because this is one of the last lines of defense for this person who has shown that he is a lousy leader. His adherents cling to the myth of what a genius he is and any problem has to be because congress are extremists, the tea party are racist etc.
 
Bronson said:
Since there are about 10 threads on the front page about Romney's Tax Returns, in the interest of creating a fair and balanced political debate, I would like to get Obama Supporters on record.

Do you believe in full academic disclosure for presidential candidates? You know, to prove that they didn't fail important subjects like Economics?
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1. If you're trying to suggest that liberals are all hypocrites because they want Romney to release stuff but not Obama, you must also consider that many conservatives couldn't care less about Romney's taxes yet have been whining about Obama's college transcripts for four years.

2. I don't think that any political candidate should be forced to releases college transcripts or tax records, but if people want to see them, I think the smart thing for them to do would be release them. The reason Romney is getting so much **** is because it's standard procedure to release them, while you can't say the same thing about college transcripts. Romney is free to not release them while Obama is free not to release his college records. Their opponents are free to attack them for it.
 
roughdraft274 said:
1. If you're trying to suggest that liberals are all hypocrites because they want Romney to release stuff but not Obama, you must also consider that many conservatives couldn't care less about Romney's taxes yet have been whining about Obama's college transcripts for four years.

2. I don't think that any political candidate should be forced to releases college transcripts or tax records, but if people want to see them, I think the smart thing for them to do would be release them. The reason Romney is getting so much **** is because it's standard procedure to release them, while you can't say the same thing about college transcripts. Romney is free to not release them while Obama is free not to release his college records. Their opponents are free to attack them for it.
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Yes, but remember how the left DEMANDED to see Bush's college and military records? and they got them. turn about is fair play.
 
Bronson said:
Since there are about 10 threads on the front page about Romney's Tax Returns, in the interest of creating a fair and balanced political debate, I would like to get Obama Supporters on record.

Do you believe in full academic disclosure for presidential candidates? You know, to prove that they didn't fail important subjects like Economics?
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I think it would be a great idea.

It would certainly put to rest the speculation on "how, what, when, who" questions.

I also believe that Harry Reid should give the name of his source on the "Romney didn't pay any taxes for 10 years" accuasation.
 
washunut said:
Because this is one of the last lines of defense for this person who has shown that he is a lousy leader. His adherents cling to the myth of what a genius he is and any problem has to be because congress are extremists, the tea party are racist etc.
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So since you believe OBama is hiding his transcripts because there is something wrong, do you also believe Romney is hiding his because they is something wrong?
 
TheNextEra said:
So since you believe OBama is hiding his transcripts because there is something wrong, do you also believe Romney is hiding his because they is something wrong?
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Romney is not giving the media and the obama campaign hundreds of pages of tax returns because he knows that they will pick them apart, take something out of context, lie about it, and try to portray him as some kind of tax cheat. He would then have to spend all of his time refuting those lies-----and thats what the left wants---------keep the dialog on anything but obama's sorry record as president---------and anyone who is paying attention knows that is exactly what is going on.
 
Obama is not giving the media and the Romney campaign pages of college transcripts because he knows that they will pick them apart, take something out of context, lie about it, and try to portray him as some kind of cheat. He would then have to spend all of his time refuting those lies-----and thats what the right wants---------keep the dialog on anything but Romney's sorry record as governor---------and anyone who is paying attention knows that is exactly what is going on.
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Edited for the counter argument. BOTH SIDES DO THIS.
 
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TheNextEra said:
Edited for the counter argument. BOTH SIDES DO THIS.
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Cute, but not accurate. Romney has released two years of tax returns, Obama has released zero college records.
 
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