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What SHOULD be done

274ina said:
There is plenty of HC. So no reason to scare the rich on HC.

Key thing is to eliminate MONEY, from HC.

And the way t o do that is UHC. Ban insurance.
Dr's on salary.
no profits
no yachts
no jets
No CEO's
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Which winds you up with no doctors in one generation. Great plan.
 
Which winds you up with no doctors in one generation. Great plan.
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Hang on, UHC = no doctors? Those men in white at my local surgery must be actors then...
 
Londoner said:
Hang on, UHC = no doctors? Those men in white at my local surgery must be actors then...
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You apparently missed this:
And the way t o do that is UHC. Ban insurance.
Dr's on salary.
no profits
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You think that is going to cause you to get more people wanting to be doctors? I dont.
 
Our doctors are on salary, and I'm pretty sure most of them don't have supplementary private income either.
 
francois60 said:
That gets you part of the way there, but no nation has yet found a way to provide health care for all at a price the nation can afford without limiting access to some extent.
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No, all western nations have found a way and it works.

Go live in New Zealand (free HC for all at all times) and tell me about your GOP lies. LOL
 
OpportunityCost said:
Which winds you up with no doctors in one generation. Great plan.
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Funny.

New Zealnad has lots of Dr's
Cook islands have lots of DR's
Mexico has lots of Dr's
Britian and France have lots of Dr's

Any more profit portecting lies for me to shoot down?

PS
and I have lived with UHC for years. To bad I could not stay.....
 
Londoner said:
Our doctors are on salary, and I'm pretty sure most of them don't have supplementary private income either.
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See the American moron has insurance and F***** up healthcare on the brain.

They cant imagine how UHC works.........
 
First, I do not agree with all the ideas of the thread starter - but I like the effort given.

Second: my changes?

1) Pass law that budget must be balanced unless declared state of war exists with another country(s). Failure to pass a balanced budget for every single fiscal year results in the forced retirement of every member of Congress/Senate after the next election. In other words - they can never run again for election or re-election.

2) Direct voter representation.
Every single vote in the House/Senate is voted on by eligible voters through either internet, phone, text or mail. If more then 50% of a Congress rep/Senator's constituents vote on the bill/motion - the people's will is carried. If less then 50% - the Congress Rep/Senator's vote is carried.

Politicians are supposed to be representatives. They are supposed to carry out the will of the people.
In the 18'th/19'th/most of 20th centuries it was impossible for the masses to vote on every bill.
It is now possible, thanks to technology.
It is time for the direct will of the people to decide the future of their country.
 
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DA60 said:
1) Pass law that budget must be balanced unless declared state of war exists with another country(s). Failure to pass a balanced budget for every single fiscal year results in the forced retirement of every member of Congress/Senate after the next election. In other words - they can never run again for election or re-election.
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Unfortunately, the US has been at war for most of it's history. We're pretty loose with our military. :(
Timeline of United States military operations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Regarding mandatory term limits, I agree with Thom Hartmann on this one, if we remove long-time Senators and Congressmen, we are left with only lobbyists as the "Washington Insiders", and those are the people that would run the show since they'd be familiar with congressional procedure.

2) Direct voter representation.
Every single vote in the House/Senate is voted on by eligible voters through either internet, phone, text or mail. If more then 50% of a Congress rep/Senator's constituents vote on the bill/motion - the people's will is carried. If less then 50% - the Congress Rep/Senator's vote is carried.
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I'm fairly uncomfortable with this as well. The government is not well equipped to implement this sort of thing itself, which would leave the job to be contracted out to private organizations. Looking at the electronic voting machines that were produced by private manufacturers, the risk of rigging voting results seems to be pretty high. (although probably not much higher than it currently is.
 
JRog said:
Unfortunately, the US has been at war for most of it's history. We're pretty loose with our military. :(
Timeline of United States military operations - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Regarding mandatory term limits, I agree with Thom Hartmann on this one, if we remove long-time Senators and Congressmen, we are left with only lobbyists as the "Washington Insiders", and those are the people that would run the show since they'd be familiar with congressional procedure.
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I do not mean battles or troop deployments.

I mean actual declared states of war with other countries (as opposed to that nonsensical 'War on Terror' crap).
I think you will find that far and away most of the history of America has been without such an official state of war ongoing.



I'm fairly uncomfortable with this as well. The government is not well equipped to implement this sort of thing itself, which would leave the job to be contracted out to private organizations. Looking at the electronic voting machines that were produced by private manufacturers, the risk of rigging voting results seems to be pretty high. (although probably not much higher than it currently is.
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The risk to vote rigging by lobbyists on Politicians is FAR higher as far as I am concerned...at least on the politicians level.

Bureaucratic levels are a whole other ballgame.

Besides, I am quite sure the government could come up with a system of online/phone/text/mail tabulation that would work reasonably well.
How much of our lives are now run online? And that seems to be running relatively smoothly.

Nothing is perfect after all.


But direct voter representation would virtually end massive government corruption...at least on an elected officials level.

Bureaucratic corruption is a whole other ballgame...but one thing at a time.
 
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