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Obama's Signiture Move: Unsealing Private Records

Meh...they want his tax records so they can leak out one 'outrage' at a time, slowly, over the duration of the campaign period, so they can talk about any and everything but the debt that has skyrocketed under Obama, unemployment, etc. Its funny how much people 'care' about any and everything Romney says, so much so that they make non-gaffes into gaffes and front page news stories and yet the problems that are actually PLAGUING this country...silence.
 
Dittohead not! said:
If you think CNN is a "left wing mouthpiece", then I'm not the one who is wrong. It is MSNBC that is the left wing mouthpiece, Fox that is the right wing mouthpiece, and CNN occupies the middle ground. Perhaps the lesson is that it is left wing and right wing agendas that produce ratings.

Or, it could be another factor: Ever tune in to CNN and count how often they go to commercial? Who wants to listen to a program that is more than half commercials?
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MSNBC is clearly more in the liberal tank than CNN, and I agree that the "commentators" of Fox lean right, but they do allow the other side equal time, something CNN never does.

Your real problem is that when the two viewpoints are given equal voice, the left always loses the debate because left wing positions defy logic and common sense.
 
Bobcat said:
MSNBC is clearly more in the liberal tank than CNN, and I agree that the "commentators" of Fox lean right, but they do allow the other side equal time, something CNN never does.

Your real problem is that when the two viewpoints are given equal voice, the left always loses the debate because left wing positions defy logic and common sense.
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Really?
That, of course, depends on your definition of "left wing".

I've heard some "right wing" arguments that defy logic as well, haven't you?
 
The desperation is palpable.
 
Bobcat said:
since CNN became a left wing mouthpiece its ratings have dropped like a rock. you are wrong, they have a liberal agenda and are staying with it at the expense of losing revenue.
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:lamo
CNN=liberal is hysterical.
 
Quick question. Since this magnificent Ann Coulter opinion piece is on how "Obama unseals private records" and that is the only way he wins, how did Obama win in ****ing 2008? What "private records" did he unseal about McCain?
 
LowDown said:
Obama's principle campaign strategy, used in 100% of his previous campaigns, is to pry into and exploit the private records of his opponents.

He became a US Senator by ripping open the sealed divorce records of his 2 opponents, first in the primary and then in the general election, with the help of the Chicago Tribune, former employer of David Axelrod.

He did the same thing with the Presidential election, exploiting private records of both McCain and Palin.

But now Obama is in a pickle with Romney, a Dudley Do Right, non drinking, non smoking, happily married man. He's got nothing to work with.

Obama has to get hold of Romney's tax records so that they can be distorted and lied about. Any feature of the records that's the least bit unusual is ripe for claims of malfeasance, and some people are likely to eat it up whether it actually makes sense or not.

OBAMA'S SIGNATURE MOVE: UNSEALING PRIVATE RECORDS
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Ann Coulter? You have got to be kidding! She is on the same insane level as Michelle Bachmann!
 
hazlnut said:
NOTHING in the Coulter piece backs up her claim.

She offers no evidence that Obama "unsealed" records.

NOTHING.

Unless Obama runs the Chicago Sun Times??

NOTHING in Coulter's piece backs up the title of the thread or the OP.



Does Obama have Jedi powers? Can he make a judge do something?

NO FACTS TO BACK UP THE ALLEGATION.

This is why Ann is joke, not to mention a former man.
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This defense is as phony as the day is long. Do yourself a favor, stop posting on things you don't know anything about. Obama's campaign had their hands all over this. It wouldnt have been a story if political opponents werent pushing inquiries to the papers and MAKING it a story. Youre being naive if you think Obama had nothing to do with this.

Are you, by any chance, from Illinois and watched the story unfold or are you from another state and buying the Obama narrative of what "really" happened?
 
OpportunityCost said:
This defense is as phony as the day is long. Do yourself a favor, stop posting on things you don't know anything about. Obama's campaign had their hands all over this. It wouldnt have been a story if political opponents werent pushing inquiries to the papers and MAKING it a story. Youre being naive if you think Obama had nothing to do with this.

Are you, by any chance, from Illinois and watched the story unfold or are you from another state and buying the Obama narrative of what "really" happened?
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In other words, it is pure ultra-right-wing fantasy, but if you keep repeating it emphatically enough it will eventually become true?
 
AdamT said:
In other words, it is pure ultra-right-wing fantasy, but if you keep repeating it emphatically enough it will eventually become true?
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You read the Trib every day?
Didnt think so. You are uninformed about the entirety of this story.
The Chicago Sun Times and the Chicago Tribune are where this story broke and where all the info is. If you cant be bothered to find out whether Coulter is wrong or right, by actually checking on the story at those two sources, how is it you feel you have enough authority to dismiss it as fantasy? Oh thats right, you post like a paid Obama operative, I forgot.
 
OpportunityCost said:
You read the Trib every day?
Didnt think so. You are uninformed about the entirety of this story.
The Chicago Sun Times and the Chicago Tribune are where this story broke and where all the info is. If you cant be bothered to find out whether Coulter is wrong or right, by actually checking on the story at those two sources, how is it you feel you have enough authority to dismiss it as fantasy? Oh thats right, you post like a paid Obama operative, I forgot.
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I certainly don't have to do any research to know that Obama's win over McCain and Palin had nothing to do with any "dirt" anyone dug up on them, as the OP claimed. I don't have to do any research to know that he hasn't attempted to spread any dirt about Romney.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Quick question. Since this magnificent Ann Coulter opinion piece is on how "Obama unseals private records" and that is the only way he wins, how did Obama win in ****ing 2008? What "private records" did he unseal about McCain?
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He and his wife's historical financial dealings and holdings. Quite a bit was "revealed" about McCain's wife and her past. Really, were you asleep during the 08 election season?
 
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AdamT said:
I certainly don't have to do any research to know that Obama's win over McCain and Palin had nothing to do with any "dirt" anyone dug up on them, as the OP claimed. I don't have to do any research to know that he hasn't attempted to spread any dirt about Romney.
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Of course you don't, you're an Obama supporter who doesn't want to look all that closely at him where it comes to anything "negative". Understandable. However, you couldn't have missed the hit pieces on Palin and her family.

River in Eygpt.
 
VanceMack said:
Meh...they want his tax records so they can leak out one 'outrage' at a time, slowly, over the duration of the campaign period, so they can talk about any and everything but the debt that has skyrocketed under Obama, unemployment, etc. Its funny how much people 'care' about any and everything Romney says, so much so that they make non-gaffes into gaffes and front page news stories and yet the problems that are actually PLAGUING this country...silence.
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I think it is sort of amazing that this is pretty much Romney's main line on all of this. He is basically saying that the U.S. public isn't capable of deciding what is or isn't important about his taxes and that they are too dumb to distinguish between a real and manufactured gaffe. This may or may not be true, but it is amazing to see that Romney is openly making major decisions based on how the media, and not the public, will react.

Even the illusion that elections are a respectable and representative event is fading.
 
I'm not inclined to trust anything Ann Coulter says without independent corroboration... but I wouldn't be surprised to find out Obama's people had done that... or that it had been done to him. These people and the folks behind them, on both sides, are ruthless and brutal... feeling justified in doing whatever it takes. I'm guessing both sides sit on a mountain of information and debate on what to leak and what not to... what bits could backfire, which attacks would seem petty or desperate.
Add to that the media's love of a dogfight... a constant sniffing for the scent of blood... and you get a third head of the hydra looking to stir up pain and humiliation for everyone.
None of them can claim to have clean hands... none of them should act surprised.
 
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TheDemSocialist said:
how did Obama win in ****ing 2008?
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1. He was black. A large majority of black folks voted for him simply because they wanted to see a black president (Sorry if that sounds bad, but deep down, you know it's true, whether you want to admit it or not).
2. He was not Bush.
 
Velvet Elvis said:
1. He was black. A large majority of black folks voted for him simply because they wanted to see a black president (Sorry if that sounds bad, but deep down, you know it's true, whether you want to admit it or not).
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Yep and a majority of white males will always vote GOP.. who always put up a older white male candidate.

2. He was not Bush.
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Yep, but what won him the election was McCain picking Palin and McCain and his major gaffe about the economy.
 
LowDown said:
Obama's principle campaign strategy, used in 100% of his previous campaigns, is to pry into and exploit the private records of his opponents.

He became a US Senator by ripping open the sealed divorce records of his 2 opponents, first in the primary and then in the general election, with the help of the Chicago Tribune, former employer of David Axelrod.

He did the same thing with the Presidential election, exploiting private records of both McCain and Palin.

But now Obama is in a pickle with Romney, a Dudley Do Right, non drinking, non smoking, happily married man. He's got nothing to work with.

Obama has to get hold of Romney's tax records so that they can be distorted and lied about. Any feature of the records that's the least bit unusual is ripe for claims of malfeasance, and some people are likely to eat it up whether it actually makes sense or not.

OBAMA'S SIGNATURE MOVE: UNSEALING PRIVATE RECORDS
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Now this is funny. It is the GOP candidates that run on personal morals and all that crap, and yet you and them are now screaming privacy when the opposition calls their bluff and actually digs in their private lives? Maybe it is because that many GOPers have been caught with their pants down over the last decade, and it is an easy way of destroying the opponents. How about not trying to take a moral high ground that any GOPer cant live up too..... normal people cant, so why the hell does the GOP think they can?
 
Dittohead not! said:
Why would anyone be surprised that Obama is the same sort of dirty fighting politician we've come to expect from Washington?

Just be cause he said he was the "hope and change" president?
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But Obama is really into his status as junior Machiavelli. Ignoring his own debt commission, then pressing the senate to not even propose a budget for three years so he could do attacks ads on anything the Republicans might propose is his idea of slickness. But it's a lot more like Nero than Tony Soprano.
 
Dittohead not! said:
The media is out for ratings in order to sell advertising space.
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sort-of-ish. powerful group think is going to impact decision-making regardless of Corporates' goals.
 
PeteEU said:
Now this is funny. It is the GOP candidates that run on personal morals and all that crap, and yet you and them are now screaming privacy when the opposition calls their bluff and actually digs in their private lives? Maybe it is because that many GOPers have been caught with their pants down over the last decade, and it is an easy way of destroying the opponents. How about not trying to take a moral high ground that any GOPer cant live up too..... normal people cant, so why the hell does the GOP think they can?
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How about not demanding transparency when dems dont provide it either and have no intention to do so. Its a two way street. Romney is running against Obama and his speeches have been about the country's economic situation, what have Obama's been about again? This is all part of Obama's class warfare distraction, problem is, its starting to backfire. Deep down people understand that personal success in business owners translates into stability and lesser success to those around them that they hire to fuel even more success.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
Quick question. Since this magnificent Ann Coulter opinion piece is on how "Obama unseals private records" and that is the only way he wins, how did Obama win in ****ing 2008? What "private records" did he unseal about McCain?
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They occused him of affairs, they slandered Palin, her husband, and their kids.

But he won because of black pride and white guilt, and a biased media with leg tingles.
 
I view it this way: If a presidential candidate is under suspicion of using tax heavens, then we, as the people he wants to govern, have the right to know if this is true.
 
waas said:
I view it this way: If a presidential candidate is under suspicion of using tax heavens, then we, as the people he wants to govern, have the right to know if this is true.
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You already know he has money in swiss and cayman accounts. So what? So does virtually every rich person in the USA, including most democrats in congress. There is nothing illegal about it
 
waas said:
I view it this way: If a presidential candidate is under suspicion of using tax heavens, then we, as the people he wants to govern, have the right to know if this is true.
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I suspect Obama of having engaged in underhandedness with Tony Rezco when he purchased his house. I as one of the people he wants to govern have the right to his financial documents.



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