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1999-2002 tax returns would reveal the reality of Romney and Bain

Dion said:
Here is a fair assessment of this administrations policies on saving our last solid auto manufacturing base.

Did Obama Save Detroit? - Businessweek

Notice we can follow the money on the auto bail out and we got some results ... Why is Romney who is running for POTUS denying his involvement in BAIN when he signed Securities and Exchange Commission Schedule 13 D reports during this time period that outsourced jobs and he personally profited?
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He was the CEO or record at that time. Thats a red herring. Even the left wing media has given up on that one.
 
Dion said:
Of course not on your last question ... yet he helped it from the collapse that began in 1999 and stopped a downward spiral.
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wrong again, I just told you who he helped. The UAW. a bankruptsy filing would have broken the huge inefficient company into smaller units. I thought you liberals hated huge corporations.
 
iguanaman said:
If he already doesn't "want" to do what voters want him to do, why should we even consider him as our leader?
He "needs" to be open about his finances if we are to trust him with ours.
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I don't know about you, but I vote for an elected official that does what he judges is best for this country, not who does what polls say a majority of American's want.

Also, please stop telling me what "we" are going to do or what we need him to do with "ours". Last I checked, you don't speak for "the voters" or "We" as a whole.

Can't help but note that nothing of what you said in any way shape or form explains why he needs to either legally do it or politically do it for his benefit.
 
Bobcat said:
First, I could not find an picture of a bobcat so I used a tiger. I do know the difference.

The law firm is Perkins Coie,LLP of Seattle. I don't know why he paid them, but he did.

College transcripts and applications show who the person is, what he studied, and how they scored on tests. It could also show how the tuition was paid. His thesis, which is also hidden, would show what he felt was important to write about.

New question for you: why have both Barack and Michelle's law licenses been cancelled?

You on the left DEMANDED bush's college and military records, and you got them. Why is obama different?
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Hmmm You could not find a picture of a bobcat?

Okay ... do you just make it up as you go along?

Regarding Michelle Obama's law license and no it is not "cancelled".

They didn't. Her law license has never been "handed over."

The record shows that Michelle Obama voluntarily took her law license to "inactive" status. This is not the loss of license, but a suspension with the option (though not the requirement) to reactivate the license later.

In Illinois, voluntary inactivations require an order of the court to commence the cancellation of malpractice insurance, annual licensing fees and the continuing education credits otherwise required by law

Read more: Why did the court order Michelle Obama to hand over her law license
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Zyphlin said:
He doesn't "need" to for any legal reason

He doesn't "need" to for any political reason in terms of what'd benefit his campaign.

Please, inform us about why he "needs" to do it. In reality, it seems you should be saying "I WANT him to".

What you WANT is not what he NEEDS to do.
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How about what he needs to do to come clean with the American people so that they know his priorities and principles? Does that count for anything?
 
Zyphlin said:
I don't know about you, but I vote for an elected official that does what he judges is best for this country, not who does what polls say a majority of American's want.
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As most do. And what is contained in those tax records will indeed tell us the truth about what Mittens believes is best for the country.
 
Bobcat said:
Back to Harvard, Occidental, and Columbia. Why has obama paid lawyers over a million dollars to keep those records sealed? simple question, whats your answer?
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BTW ... we know he was in the top 10% of his class at Harvard and graduated Magna Cum Laude.

Obama graduated Magna Cum Laude, which, according to the Harvard Law School website, is awarded to the top 10% of the school's students. He was also elected President of the Law Review, an honor that the school says is given to a student seen to have great potential for the legal field.

Read more: What were Barack Obama's grades in college
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haymarket said:
How about what he needs to do to come clean with the American people so that they know his priorities and principles? Does that count for anything?
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Again. Forgive me Haymarket. But you don't speak for the American People. And if the American People feel that he "needs" to come clean....then they will vote for Obama.
 
Keep trying ...

For instance, in April 1999, Romney signed documents related to a Bain deal with Pirod Holdings.

In November of that year, his signature appears on documents connected to a deal with Stericycle.

In January 2000, he signed paperwork for a deal with VMM Merger Corp.

His John Hancock appears on ChipPAC Inc. documents in February 2001.

That same month, Romney's signature can be found on paperwork connected to a Bain deal with Integrated Circuit Systems Inc.

In February 2000, he signed documents related to a deal with Wesley Jessen Visioncare Inc.

In February 1999, the Boston Herald reported that "Romney said he will stay on as a part-timer with Bain, providing input on investments and key personnel decisions. But he will leave running day-to-day operations to Bain's executive committee."

In 2002, Bain employee Marc Wolpow saying, "I reported directly to Mitt Romney ... You can't be CEO of Bain Capital and say, 'I really don't know what my guys were doing.'"
 
haymarket said:
As most do. And what is contained in those tax records will indeed tell us the truth about what Mittens believes is best for the country.
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Unless any of us in here are Tax Experts, what it really will do is cause the campaigns, political operatives, and third party observers telling us the "truth" as they see it based on whatever given spin or interpretation they wish to present.

It's funnyh...you and Dion and the others keep wanting to reach for emotion and empty platitudes because, to be perfectly frank, you've all been absolutely unable...what so ever...to explain why, in any way shape or form, it would be a net positive for Romney's campaign to release the taxes. And without doing that, there's no argument you can make for why he needs or should release his tax returns. They're nothing but empty platitudes of your own OPINION being presented as if you speak for all of America due to your hubris.
 
haymarket said:
As most do. And what is contained in those tax records will indeed tell us the truth about what Mittens believes is best for the country.
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Exactly and while he is not legally required if he wants to talk about we should use his business record to know how to handle an economy ... he needs to show us his record.

Romney's platform is economics and no ... nothing has been debunked on what Romney did for Bain and his offshore accounts.

It is all hidden and the Obama campaign is exactly correct to question this secrecy of offshore accounts, dismantling and outsourcing of jobs with Romney's signature on the documents ... especially if Romney wants to question Obama on specific polices that saved American companies and kept our economy from the nosedive it was in when he took office.

Documents filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission Schedule 13 D reports contradict Romney's statements and his very own own signature in black.

Some of these documents were Schedule 13D reports, required to be filed pursuant to the Williams Act whenever any person or group acquires 5% or more of the stock of any public company. The purpose of such reports is to notify the securities markets of a possible change in control of a public company.
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Bobcat said:
First, I could not find an picture of a bobcat so I used a tiger. I do know the difference.

The law firm is Perkins Coie,LLP of Seattle. I don't know why he paid them, but he did.
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You said you do know why he paid them, now you say you don't. Sounds like a typical email conspiracy campaign.

College transcripts and applications show who the person is, what he studied, and how they scored on tests. It could also show how the tuition was paid. His thesis, which is also hidden, would show what he felt was important to write about.
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Again, what relevance does a college paper have for an incumbent POTUS, you rwers have your mind made up about his ideology.
New question for you: why have both Barack and Michelle's law licenses been cancelled?
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Um....to get to the other side?

You on the left DEMANDED bush's college and military records, and you got them. Why is obama different?
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Me? When did I do that? and Bush did not release his NG docs. Try again.
 
Dion said:
Keep trying ...

For instance, in April 1999, Romney signed documents related to a Bain deal with Pirod Holdings.

In November of that year, his signature appears on documents connected to a deal with Stericycle.

In January 2000, he signed paperwork for a deal with VMM Merger Corp.

His John Hancock appears on ChipPAC Inc. documents in February 2001.

That same month, Romney's signature can be found on paperwork connected to a Bain deal with Integrated Circuit Systems Inc.

In February 2000, he signed documents related to a deal with Wesley Jessen Visioncare Inc.

In February 1999, the Boston Herald reported that "Romney said he will stay on as a part-timer with Bain, providing input on investments and key personnel decisions. But he will leave running day-to-day operations to Bain's executive committee."

In 2002, Bain employee Marc Wolpow saying, "I reported directly to Mitt Romney ... You can't be CEO of Bain Capital and say, 'I really don't know what my guys were doing.'"
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Sure you can, where in the rule book does it say you can't be. There is nothing in the rule book that a person cannot retain their title, and still not be active in the company. I mean there are dead beat parents that are still parents that never see their kids, and have no idea what the hell their 3 yr old kid is doing.
 
Born Free said:
Sure you can, where in the rule book does it say you can't be. There is nothing in the rule book that a person cannot retain their title, and still not be active in the company. I mean there are dead beat parents that are still parents that never see their kids, and have no idea what the hell their 3 yr old kid is doing.
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You said nothing to my researched post and Romney's active signatures on the business deals he is trying to distance himself from ...yet your post is funny regarding the dead beat dad analogy.
 
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Dion said:
You said nothing to my researched post and his active signatures on the business deals he is trying to distance himself from ...yet your post is funny regarding the dead beat dad analogy.
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Interesting, I said dead beat parents. You come back and say dead beat dads. You sound bias against dads, that only they are the dead beats. Never was a dead beat mom that dropped here kid in a dumpster alive for someone else to find or leave it to die.

Back to your research, I did say something to your research. I used the dead beat parent example to debunk your assertion. Same applies to Romney as the dead beat PARENTS. The dead beat PARENTS may have to sign a document for their kid to do something in school just because their name is listed as mother or father. But that in no way means the mother or father knew anything about the event or anything else but just because it needed a parent signature, they were chased down and told, sign here. A parent signed it not knowing what the kid was doing where it lived or could care less for that kid. I know it's hard for you to connect the two, but for you to make an assertion, after which the people at Bain (who are Obama funders) said Romney had no management in the company during that time period.
 
As long has he won't release his financial information I think he's concealing something that if the public knew would hurt is campaign. I care about that. I don't care what grades Obama got in a school, which is often the republican counter rebuttal to Romney's refusal to show records on his finances, which might reveal relevant economic information on hs history with and philosophy on firing Americans, hiring third works sweat shop workers and pocketing the profits.
 
Born Free said:
Interesting, I said dead beat parents. You come back and say dead beat dads. You sound bias against dads, that only they are the dead beats. Never was a dead beat mom that dropped here kid in a dumpster alive for someone else to find or leave it to die.

Back to your research, I did say something to your research. I used the dead beat parent example to debunk your assertion. Same applies to Romney as the dead beat PARENTS. The dead beat PARENTS may have to sign a document for their kid to do something in school just because their name is listed as mother or father. But that in no way means the mother or father knew anything about the event or anything else but just because it needed a parent signature, they were chased down and told, sign here. A parent signed it not knowing what the kid was doing where it lived or could care less for that kid. I know it's hard for you to connect the two, but for you to make an assertion, after which the people at Bain (who are Obama funders) said Romney had no management in the company during that time period.
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Damn... Good comeback

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I think she is trying to say, "If he want's us to believe how honest and charitable he is and he doesn't have millions in Swiss Bank accounts, then he needs to disclouse his taxes." Mrs. Romney, opened up a gate for questions when she said, " He didn't recieve any money when he was governor, he gives 10% of his income to the Mormon Church, he is very generous to charities. We have given you people enough and if we give you the tax returns, you it will be used to attack him" I really couldn't remember what she said word from word, but I think I got close enough. If he is really honest and doesn't have millions in Swiss Bank acoounts or the islands, then he has nothing to worry about. We all know he is rich. I just think he should just release them and get it over with.
 
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Zyphlin said:
He doesn't "need" to for any legal reason

He doesn't "need" to for any political reason in terms of what'd benefit his campaign.

Please, inform us about why he "needs" to do it. In reality, it seems you should be saying "I WANT him to".

What you WANT is not what he NEEDS to do.
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Its because those Birther-tards were all like that thar Barack Husein Barry Sataro Obama should show is long form birth certificate to prove that he wasn't born in Kenya.
 
Bain, is not a funder for Obama.
 
Dion said:
He needs to release these tax returns and the nature of his accounts overseas if he wants to be transparent on his involvement and lack of involvement. Follow the money trail.

Romney can't shirk responsibility for Bain - CNN.com

He needs to release his tax returns from 1999 -2002 ... after all his big platform is how to handle "our economy".

He keeps blowing off he knows how to do it yet he is so secretive about his own finnaces and the dismantling of American companies by Bain.
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CNN and Gov. Deval Patrick (D) Defend Bain Capital: "Not a bad company."

 
Smeagol said:
As long has he won't release his financial information I think he's concealing something that if the public knew would hurt is campaign. I care about that. I don't care what grades Obama got in a school, which is often the republican counter rebuttal to Romney's refusal to show records on his finances, which might reveal relevant economic information on hs history with and philosophy on firing Americans, hiring third works sweat shop workers and pocketing the profits.
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What is obama hiding by not releasing his college records?
 
Bobcat said:
What is obama hiding by not releasing his college records?
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Great question!

None of the professors in the schools he "attended" remember him attending any of their classes.
 
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