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The Rasmussen Gamble

Is Pelosi a hypocrite? Yes.

Does Pelosi have to release her tax returns to win in November? No, her district will elect whichever candidate has a D by their name.

Does Romney have to release his tax returns for the past several years to win in November? That's the $64,000 question.
 
johnny_rebson said:
Is Pelosi a hypocrite? Yes.

Does Pelosi have to release her tax returns to win in November? No, her district will elect whichever candidate has a D by their name.

Does Romney have to release his tax returns for the past several years to win in November? That's the $64,000 question.
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The answer is no, if a person decides to not vote for Romney because he did not release more tax returns, over a failed Obama economy. That person should do them-self a favor and just stay home
 
They still do primarily land line calls ... I would think that would change the demographics a bit to a more senior crowd. How many people reading this have a landline?

I know I do not.

Polls too close to call imho ... the landline issue and numbers polled seem statistically insignificant to me.

Comments?
 
Born Free said:
The answer is no, if a person decides to not vote for Romney because he did not release more tax returns, over a failed Obama economy. That person should do them-self a favor and just stay home
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No, Romney does not have to release them. If he wants to lose the election, that is his right. Fact is, the Dems have found some red meat, and they are not going to let go.
 
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Being so secretive of his offshore accounts and corporate interests are not helping Romney. He signed many SEC forms into 2002 and profited from Bain and drew a salary. The undecided voter in Ohio might not relate to hidden offshore accounts where Romney paid less of a percentage of taxes on income then they did ...!

danarhea said:
No, Romney does not have to release them. If he wants to lose the election, that is his right.
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You are correct though ... legally he does not have to release any tax returns.
 
danarhea said:
No, Romney does not have to release them. If he wants to lose the election, that is his right. Fact is, the Dems have found some red meat, and they are not going to let go.
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I quote:
"The answer is no, if a person decides to not vote for Romney because he did not release more tax returns, over a failed Obama economy. That person should do them-self a favor and just stay home"

Let me put it this way, vote for more Obama failure, against a guy because he did not release the tax returns you wanted. Yeah right. Pelosi said tax returns are a distraction, I guess you bought into the distraction. Now go vote for Obamafailure.
 
Dion said:
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Being so secretive of his offshore accounts and corporate interests are not helping Romney. He signed many SEC forms into 2002 and profited from Bain and drew a salary. The undecided voter in Ohio might not relate to hidden offshore accounts where Romney paid less of a percentage of taxes on income then they did ...!



You are correct though ... legally he does not have to release any tax returns.
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Do you have a similar chart on how many presidential candidates have released their college records, thesis, baptismal records, social security registrations, and long form birth certificates?

This whole Romeny tax return thing is just a poorly veiled attempt to take the debate away from obama's hidden past and his dismal failure as a president.
 
Dion said:
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Being so secretive of his offshore accounts and corporate interests are not helping Romney. He signed many SEC forms into 2002 and profited from Bain and drew a salary. The undecided voter in Ohio might not relate to hidden offshore accounts where Romney paid less of a percentage of taxes on income then they did ...!
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This is an issue where the Obama campaign will keep hitting Romney with until he releases his tax returns.
 
OpportunityCost said:
They regularly oversample dems, they regularly undersample reps. Their turnout model for most of their polls were still rooted in the 2008 turnout model and Obama will not generate the turnout from 2008, and hes going to lose some of those voters.
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I asked for proof, not baseless commentary...but thanks for trying in your own weak way.
 
OpportunityCost said:
Go look at the sample data. Results of The New York Times/CBS Poll - Document - NYTimes.com

27 rep/31 dem. In this one they undersampled both but the margin from the last election cycle was within 1 not 4. Indys 31, never voting! 8, Dont know/NA 4.
Page 27 on the PDF I linked.

Do you own legwork if you are going to violate the DBAJ rule.
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What does a general question about whether one votes for a particular party(p27, Q87) have to do with the accuracy of polling of the general elections?

PS...you do understand that when a group is oversampled, the results have a LOWER amount of error and they are adjusted by WEIGHING. It is a standardized statistical method used in any random sample.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
What does a general question about whether one votes for a particular party(p27, Q87) have to do with the accuracy of polling of the general elections?

PS...you do understand that when a group is oversampled, the results have a LOWER amount of error and they are adjusted by WEIGHING. It is a standardized statistical method used in any random sample.
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Have you ever looked at NYT weighting totals? There is a reason they dont include them any more. They deepened the dem advantage they didnt lessen it. If you care to prove your assertion that their weighting methods did what you say they do, please go back and provide a link and proof of such. I believe youre wrong because I have looked at their weighted results in the past. I think its time you did so, in order to know you are mistaken about the accuracy of NYT/CBS polling.
 
OpportunityCost said:
Have you ever looked at NYT weighting totals? There is a reason they dont include them any more. They deepened the dem advantage they didnt lessen it. If you care to prove your assertion that their weighting methods did what you say they do, please go back and provide a link and proof of such. I believe youre wrong because I have looked at their weighted results in the past. I think its time you did so, in order to know you are mistaken about the accuracy of NYT/CBS polling.
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NYtimes polls are designed to influence public opinion, not report on it.
 
Bobcat said:
Do you have a similar chart on how many presidential candidates have released their college records, thesis, baptismal records, social security registrations, and long form birth certificates?

This whole Romeny tax return thing is just a poorly veiled attempt to take the debate away from obama's hidden past and his dismal failure as a president.
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Jeez, the birfers are still with us. :mrgreen:
 
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