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DNC Chair is "Happy" with 8.2% Unemployment [W:198]

re: DNC Chair is "Happy" with 8.2% Unemployment [W:198]

So if you are getting your car fixed in a repair shop, and you ask the guy how longer do you think its going to take, and he says "Well we've made good progress so far" are you going to immediately infer that he's happy with the job as it stands now and believes no more repair is necessary?

You know I guess it hasn't dawned on some people that many goals aren't reached in a single step, if you have 10, 11% unemployment and the goal is 5% or so, do they expect it be accomplished in a single step? Do they not think that to get to 5% one first will be default achieve, 9, 8, 7, 6, percent as well?

And is it not something to be happy for that unemployment has dropped by 2% or so? And isn't the possible to be happy about the progress made towards a goal without inferring that no more progress is required?

Apparently, its not.
 
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vendur said:
How does employment go up or down?

By the rate of growth of jobs

How did we end up at 8.2% unemployment?

By a negative growth rate of jobs.

She said she was happy with the growth rate, despite the fact we are at 8.2% unemployment.

If she was happy with the growth rate that lead us to the 8.2% figure, how can she not be happy with the number itself?

This is incredibly basic inferenced logic. Maybe you are the one who shouldn't talk of such things.
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A couple days ago I started having a tooth ache. My jaw swelled up on one side, the nerve running up from the tooth hurt the entire length and I could literally feel where it went by the nerve to the eye on my right side and my eye hurt. It sucked. Today, well, I still have a toothache but it is much improved. The swelling is almost gone, my eye does not hurt, the headache is manageable with Tylenol. I am not happy about the toothache, but I am happy about things not being as bad. That was her point. When Obama took office in January 2009, the economy lost 741,000 jobs. The economy is now growing jobs. That is better, which is her point. She is not happy with the pain we are in, but she is happy that things are not still as bad as they where.
 
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vendur said:
How does employment go up or down?

By the rate of growth of jobs

How did we end up at 8.2% unemployment?

By a negative growth rate of jobs.

She said she was happy with the growth rate, despite the fact we are at 8.2% unemployment.

If she was happy with the growth rate that lead us to the 8.2% figure, how can she not be happy with the number itself?

This is incredibly basic inferenced logic. Maybe you are the one who shouldn't talk of such things.
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Because its a step in a process? And that's not what she said?

Just want to get the obvious out of the way so you can really get into the doublethink.
 
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Prof. Peabody said:
She said she was happy with 28 straight months of job growth in the private sector. However, we have has no less than 350,000 new jobless claims per month since Obama took office and 374,000 for the month of June, that's NOTHING to be happy about.
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As has been pointed out to you, those 300k new jobless claims per month is normal even in good economic times. Most of those are transient losses.
 
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I was never really too upset with reported unemployment.
8% unemployment, means 92% of people are employed.

In school that was graded as an A.
 
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Redress said:
A couple days ago I started having a tooth ache. My jaw swelled up on one side, the nerve running up from the tooth hurt the entire length and I could literally feel where it went by the nerve to the eye on my right side and my eye hurt. It sucked. Today, well, I still have a toothache but it is much improved. The swelling is almost gone, my eye does not hurt, the headache is manageable with Tylenol. I am not happy about the toothache, but I am happy about things not being as bad. That was her point. When Obama took office in January 2009, the economy lost 741,000 jobs. The economy is now growing jobs. That is better, which is her point. She is not happy with the pain we are in, but she is happy that things are not still as bad as they where.
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Sorry to hear about your tooth. If you have pliers in your garage and a mirror the offending tooth can be out in a matter of minutes and the whole thing will heal much quicker. We can do the same with Obama and the Senate Democrats in November, with the proper votes the bad tooth (Obama and the Senate Democrats) can be yanked out November 6. Then the countries healing can begin.
 
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Wiseone said:
Because its a step in a process? And that's not what she said?

Just want to get the obvious out of the way so you can really get into the doublethink.
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So, she must be happy that currently we are at 8.2% and that it's step in the right direction, yes?


It's like saying you are happy with the progress to contain the BP oil spill a couple days after it happened, because SOMETHING was being done.
 
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Redress said:
The topic was a lie. The OP lied. Defending lies to desperately try and make political points is kinda revealing.
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I didn't lie at all

My point stands. Obama and the Democrats are happy "with the progress that has been made". As what was pointed out in the interview. 69K jobs and 80K per month is NOT enough to even cover the rate of population growth in the United States. There is no job growth. Obama is at a net loss in total jobs over his presidency. 800K less women are employed then when he took office. Now those are the just cold hard facts. If you don't want to acknowledge reality and try to deflect, distract, throw a temper tantrum, and engage in ad hominem attacks be my guest. It's just noise.

The fact is you can't debate the actual "progress that has been made" that she and you seem to be "happy" about. We are not gaining jobs. We are losing jobs. At the rate our economy is growing under Obama's failed economic policies, there won't be enough jobs and economic growth to sustain us. This can't go on forever. 53% of college graduates under the age of 25 are unemployed or underemployed. The interest rate on their student loan is going to go up. The June Jobs Report was an absolute disaster. You're so lost in the world of liberal spin you are willing to rationalize absolute disaster in order to support a corrupt political party and administration. It's shameful.
 
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Bronson said:
I didn't lie at all

My point stands. Obama and the Democrats are happy "with the progress that has been made". As what was pointed out in the interview. 69K jobs and 80K per month is NOT enough to even cover the rate of population growth in the United States. There is no job growth. Obama is at a net loss in total jobs over his presidency. 800K less women are employed then when he took office. Now those are the just cold facts. If you don't want to acknowledge reality and try to deflect, distract, throw a temper tantrum, and engage in ad hominem attacks be my guest. It's just noise.

The fact is you can't debate the actual "progress that has been made" that she and you seem to be "happy" about. We are not gaining jobs. We are losing jobs. At the rate our economy is growing under Obama's failed economic policies, there won't be enough jobs and economic growth to sustain us. This can't go on forever. 53% of college graduates under the age of 25 are unemployed or underemployed. The interest rate on their student loan is going to go up. The June Jobs Report was an absolute disaster. You're so lost in the world of liberal spin you are willing to rationalize absolute disaster in order to support a corrupt political party and administration. It's shameful.
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She did not say she was happy with 8.2 % unemployment. You lied.
 
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Redress said:
She did not say she was happy with 8.2 % unemployment. You lied.
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She affirmed she was "happy" with the current state of economic affairs

8.2% unemployment is the current state of economic affairs. If there was job growth why didn't the unemployment rate go down? Why did the real unemployment rate that isn't bastardized by liberal spin and propaganda go up? You can do basic math can't you? 2+ 2 = ?
 
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Redress said:
She did not say she was happy with 8.2 % unemployment. You lied.
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It's not a lie, it's a inference. Haven't we already gone over this? You may find the inference a misleading one, but it's not a lie, nor the OP a liar.
 
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Redress said:
You really should not talk about others having drunk the koolaid when you spin out regurgitated talking points. Note that I have not actually defended her, I stated that the OP was a lie. That is a verifiable fact. I attacked the lie, not defended her.
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again.. you are just parsing venacular to try to save this Obama sock puppet... your post is so rich with iromy..
 
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Redress said:
She did not say she was happy with 8.2 % unemployment. You lied.
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The only lie is that you are stating you are correct, and that the premise and point are not correct..
 
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re: DNC Chair is "Happy" with 8.2% Unemployment [W:198]

This is painful to watch..
 
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Bronson said:
DNC Chair "Happy" With 8.2% Unemployment - YouTube

She might as well have gift wrapped this with a bow to the Romney Campaign.

To put things into proper historical perspective:

John Kerry and John Edwards claimed that Bush's Economy in 2004 was "The worst Economy since Herbert Hoover" at 5.4% unemployment.

FactCheck.org: George Bush As Herbert Hoover? Oh Come On!
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Does he have a choice? would you expect him to rant and rave how bad the economy is lol
 
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Bronson said:
She affirmed she was "happy" with the current state of economic affairs

8.2% unemployment is the current state of economic affairs. If there was job growth why didn't the unemployment rate go down? Why did the real unemployment rate that isn't bastardized by liberal spin and propaganda go up? You can do basic math can't you? 2+ 2 = ?
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NO she didn't -- you are still lying. She said she was happy that there had been 28 straight months of jobs growth, period. That doesn't mean she was satisfied -- just glad that jobs were growing.
 
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Bronson said:
DNC Chair "Happy" With 8.2% Unemployment - YouTube

She might as well have gift wrapped this with a bow to the Romney Campaign.

To put things into proper historical perspective:

John Kerry and John Edwards claimed that Bush's Economy in 2004 was "The worst Economy since Herbert Hoover" at 5.4% unemployment.

FactCheck.org: George Bush As Herbert Hoover? Oh Come On!
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You know, I have to actually give props to the DNC. I really thought they had peaked at "crazy" with Howard Dean. But they have significantly outperformed my expectations on this front.

However, (as, looking below, many have noted) she didn't say she was happy with the current rate - she said she was happy with the progress being made. Which in and of itself I think could be a campaign ad, though not one quite as hitting as you depict.
 
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Bronson said:
She affirmed she was "happy" with the current state of economic affairs

8.2% unemployment is the current state of economic affairs. If there was job growth why didn't the unemployment rate go down? Why did the real unemployment rate that isn't bastardized by liberal spin and propaganda go up? You can do basic math can't you? 2+ 2 = ?
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She did not say that either. Why do you continue to lie?
 
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vendur said:
It's not a lie, it's a inference. Haven't we already gone over this? You may find the inference a misleading one, but it's not a lie, nor the OP a liar.
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Except she did not infer that either. Nowhere did she say, infer, suggest that she was happy with 8.2 % unemployment. When your whole position is based on lying about what some one says, it is already failed.
 
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cpwill said:
You know, I have to actually give props to the DNC. I really thought they had peaked at "crazy" with Howard Dean. But they have significantly outperformed my expectations on this front.
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Yeah, she's no Michael Steele or Reince Preibus, that's for sure. :lol:
 
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Redress said:
Was that the topic she was talking about? Can you discuss politics without lying?
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The topic of discussion was dismal job growth. Job growth has a direct effect on the unemployment rate. The current unemployment rate is 8.2% in Obama's propaganda world, and 14.9% in the real world.

I don't really understand why you liberals are pretending you "got me" or something because the exact words that came out of Shultz mouth were not "I am Happy with 8.2% Unemployment". Look at the title of my thread. Where does it say the words "DNC Chair SAID she is happy with 8.2% unemployment"? I never claimed she said a damn thing. I was asserting that she felt that way about the unemployment rate, since she seems happy with the very specific thing that has an effect on said unemployment rate. Job Growth. There is no job growth. 2+ 2 = 4. There is not a net gain of jobs under an Obama presidency. The United States is not creating enough jobs to keep up with rate of population growth. I understand that you far left partisan hacks have a different opinion than I do, and you believe Obama's wonderful job policies are working, that there equality and fairness now, and there is something we should be "happy" about in regards to the state of the US Economy, but those of us living in reality disagree.

I was inferring to her stating she is happy with any aspect of the economy PERIOD is being happy with 8.2% unemployment. That's just a given ok? If you believe there is absolutely ANYTHING to be "happy" about in this economy than you are "happy" with 8.2% unemployment and 14.9% real unemployment.

Just explain to me, without shrieking like a Harpy that Shultz didn't say exactly what you wanted her to, how there is anything to be happy about in an economy that is at 14.9% real unemployment. Just give it a try. If you're out there unemployed and you're benefits have run out, liberals don't care about you. If you're starving and homeless, you're not even good enough to be an unemployment statistic. Now Democrats are talking about raising taxes on everyone. Yes, the poor and the middle class too. Nobody is spared when it comes to Democrats finding scapegoats and excuses for their failed policies.

Former Democratic senator: Raise taxes on everybody - Washington Times
 
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