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Romney slams Romney reasoning ... again

TurtleDude said:
NOt at all, I constantly bash a major wing of the GOP-the social conservatives. You smell Obama's farts and declare its perfume from the heavens.

and you have never told us what is the main benefit you get from Obama being in office-and its rather obvious you have to be expecting a major benefit to shill for a turkey like Obama as much as you do
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Awesome, and I have criticized Obama for continuing Bush's war on terror policies.

The fact is that Obama could fart Chanel No. 5 and you'd claim he was putting the perfume industry out of business. You're as biased as anyone on this site.

Let me set you straight on why I support Obama. I think he will be better for the country -- not necessarily me personally -- than the alternative. I know you can't comprehend this, but there are people who don't think that their tax bill is the most important thing in the world.
 
AdamT said:
Awesome, and I have criticized Obama for continuing Bush's war on terror policies.

The fact is that Obama could fart Chanel No. 5 and you'd claim he was putting the perfume industry out of business. You're as biased as anyone on this site.

Let me set you straight on why I support Obama. I think he will be better for the country -- not necessarily me personally -- than the alternative. I know you can't comprehend this, but there are people who don't think that their tax bill is the most important thing in the world.
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1) yes you criticize Obama when he doesn't bash GOP policies.

2) I find your claims BS. You see Obama's reelection as providing you with a major benefit and you pretend its "the good of the country". You might be able to convince some grade school kid or ivory tower pillow head with that crap but not most of us who have been around the block a few times

3) I have always been honest why I want Obama to lose

a) his tax policies are disgusting
b) the judges he has appointed are far more statist and far more anti gun that what we got from W
c) anyone who claims people like me aren't paying enough taxes is a bald faced liar
 
TurtleDude said:
1) yes you criticize Obama when he doesn't bash GOP policies.
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What is the significance of the caveat?

2) I find your claims BS. You see Obama's reelection as providing you with a major benefit and you pretend its "the good of the country". You might be able to convince some grade school kid or ivory tower pillow head with that crap but not most of us who have been around the block a few times
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As predicted, you cannot even conceive of anyone caring more about the country than about their own finances.

3) I have always been honest why I want Obama to lose
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I'll give you that. You make no effort whatsoever to disguise your greed.

a) his tax policies are disgusting
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To date they are more or less exactly the same as Bush's tax policies ... so I'll also concede that point.

b) the judges he has appointed are far more statist and far more anti gun that what we got from W
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*cough*Roberts*cough* :lamo

c) anyone who claims people like me aren't paying enough taxes is a bald faced liar
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Right ... because it has been scientifically proven that people like you are paying enough taxes. :lol:
 
the left usually attempts to hide their own agenda with claims that all they want to do is help the country. I don't think anyone is naive enough to buy that crap-especially from someone who is a "obama's crap don't stink" apologist.

Roberts has been far less statist than Ginsburg, quota mayor or Breyer. remind me of the vote on Heller and McDonald.

when one group and only one group pays more of the income tax burden than their share of the income, its easy to argue they are paying too much
 
TurtleDude said:
the left usually attempts to hide their own agenda with claims that all they want to do is help the country. I don't think anyone is naive enough to buy that crap-especially from someone who is a "obama's crap don't stink" apologist.
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I know ... you can't conceive of it.

Roberts has been far less statist than Ginsburg, quota mayor or Breyer. remind me of the vote on Heller and McDonald.
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It will be interesting to see how Roberts evolves now that conservatives have thrown him under the bus, dragged his broken body to the train tracks, and run over him with the wingnut express. Funny thing abou the justices -- you never know how they're going to turn out. See Souter, Stevens, etc.

when one group and only one group pays more of the income tax burden than their share of the income, its easy to argue they are paying too much
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It's easy to say a lot of things that don't make sense.
 
AdamT said:
I know ... you can't conceive of it.



It will be interesting to see how Roberts evolves now that conservatives have thrown him under the bus, dragged his broken body to the train tracks, and run over him with the wingnut express. Funny thing abou the justices -- you never know how they're going to turn out. See Souter, Stevens, etc.



It's easy to say a lot of things that don't make sense.
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I can conceive it-in your case I just don't believe it. almost every far lefty claims that their class warfare and grow the government nonsense is for the good of the country. when you strip away their lies and the facade it comes down to they believing welfare-socialism benefits them. in some cases-they are single issue votes (abortion and gay rights are the two most prevalent) and rather than admitting that, they feel a need to swill down the entire pitcher of koolade rather than admitting they support the dems because the dems are better for them on the ONE or two issues they like (I remember listening to a rich trust fund gay guy trying to argue why the dems' economic schemes were best for the country--one of my friends called him on it and told him that his wanting to marry his boyfriend was a good enough reason for his love of the dems-he later admitted he thought the dems sucked on taxes) they feel a need to justify their single issue by pretending they buy into the entire program for THE GOOD OF THE NATION.


In other words, I don't believe you and hundreds of conversations with hundreds of people who spew the same story you do is my reason
 
TurtleDude said:
I can conceive it-in your case I just don't believe it. almost every far lefty claims that their class warfare and grow the government nonsense is for the good of the country. when you strip away their lies and the facade it comes down to they believing welfare-socialism benefits them. in some cases-they are single issue votes (abortion and gay rights are the two most prevalent) and rather than admitting that, they feel a need to swill down the entire pitcher of koolade rather than admitting they support the dems because the dems are better for them on the ONE or two issues they like (I remember listening to a rich trust fund gay guy trying to argue why the dems' economic schemes were best for the country--one of my friends called him on it and told him that his wanting to marry his boyfriend was a good enough reason for his love of the dems-he later admitted he thought the dems sucked on taxes) they feel a need to justify their single issue by pretending they buy into the entire program for THE GOOD OF THE NATION.


In other words, I don't believe you and hundreds of conversations with hundreds of people who spew the same story you do is my reason
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Okay.... :shrug:
 
AdamT said:
Awesome, and I have criticized Obama for continuing Bush's war on terror policies.

The fact is that Obama could fart Chanel No. 5 and you'd claim he was putting the perfume industry out of business. You're as biased as anyone on this site.

Let me set you straight on why I support Obama. I think he will be better for the country -- not necessarily me personally -- than the alternative. I know you can't comprehend this, but there are people who don't think that their tax bill is the most important thing in the world.
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You lecturing someone on bias is like Madoff lecturing on business ethics.
 
OpportunityCost said:
You lecturing someone on bias is like Madoff lecturing on business ethics.
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we all laugh at his claims that his frantic and unwavering support of Obama is for the best of this country. No one can rationally argue that Obama's administration has been a positive for this nation so far
 
TurtleDude said:
we all laugh at his claims that his frantic and unwavering support of Obama is for the best of this country. No one can rationally argue that Obama's administration has been a positive for this nation so far
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Oh you mean ALL that the teaparty has accomplished since last election...oh wait...they have accomplished in polishing the word NO to a brilliant sheen....and lets not forget bush who broke our bank long before obama was involved...theres enough blame to go all around..
Your pretty much the one sided hackerooo yourself there TD :) I put the smile so no one snitched on me lol
 
lpast said:
Oh you mean ALL that the teaparty has accomplished since last election...oh wait...they have accomplished in polishing the word NO to a brilliant sheen....and lets not forget bush who broke our bank long before obama was involved...theres enough blame to go all around..
Your pretty much the one sided hackerooo yourself there TD :) I put the smile so no one snitched on me lol
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this thread is not about the tea party or your fear that the tea party will start restricting your access to the public teat.
 
TurtleDude said:
this thread is not about the tea party or your fear that the tea party will start restricting your access to the public teat.
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If you can make every thread about you and how your being robbed...I can make it about what I want ::p
 
AdamT said:
But what did Romney say about Romney's record when he was governor of Massachusettes?
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Wow, you are just picking up on how both the (R)'s and (D)'s are the same, and lie about the same stuff? Good for you.

Now if you'd just use that to help you drop your partisan hackery...
 
AdamT said:
Another jaw-dropping example of Romney's dishonesty has surfaced -- one that essentially obliterates his main argument against Obama. Romney has constantly argued in this campaign that he should be chosen over Obama because of Obama's record on jobs. In making the argument, he points to job losses, virtually all of which occurred within Obama's fist year in office. Since then, of course, the country has experienced almost three years of continuous jobs growth.

But what did Romney say about Romney's record when he was governor of Massachusettes?



[video]http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DArRj-dQXX3Y%26feature%3Dplayer_embedded&feature=player_ embedded&v=ArRj-dQXX3Y&gl=US[/video]

I'm speechless. :scared:
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What universe are you living in? We're still at 8.2% unemployment if you believe the bull**** from the now politicized Dept of Labor; so what job growth? And speaking of lying, I'm sure you threw a thermo-nuclear fit when Obama lied about Obamacare NOT being a tax, didn't you?
 
Obama never ran a lemon aid stand, he ran up our national debt by 6 trillion in just 4 yrs. And you on the left tout he created jobs, WOW you would think for spending 6 trillion we would get more than we got. Obama said himself, if we pass this stimulus NOW, unemployment would not go above 8% and by mid 2012 unemployment would be down to 5.6%. Instead we got unemployment over 8% and holding.

Now all you Obama lovers want to repeat this same borrow and spend mentality and continue your love affair with 8% unemployment, to keep society dependent on your most loved entitlement programs. That's right, liberals have never been about creating jobs, just the opposite, you kill jobs to create an entitlement society dependent on your big beloved government.
 
Born Free said:
Obama never ran a lemon aid stand, he ran up our national debt by 6 trillion in just 4 yrs. And you on the left tout he created jobs, WOW you would think for spending 6 trillion we would get more than we got. Obama said himself, if we pass this stimulus NOW, unemployment would not go above 8% and by mid 2012 unemployment would be down to 5.6%. Instead we got unemployment over 8% and holding.

Now all you Obama lovers want to repeat this same borrow and spend mentality and continue your love affair with 8% unemployment, to keep society dependent on your most loved entitlement programs. That's right, liberals have never been about creating jobs, just the opposite, you kill jobs to create an entitlement society dependent on your big beloved government.
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dem elites are pushers and their constituents are the addicts
 
OpportunityCost said:
You lecturing someone on bias is like Madoff lecturing on business ethics.
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I would agree, unless the person claiming bias is someone like you or TD, which is the Platonic form of the pot calling the kettle black.
 
Born Free said:
Obama never ran a lemon aid stand, he ran up our national debt by 6 trillion in just 4 yrs. And you on the left tout he created jobs, WOW you would think for spending 6 trillion we would get more than we got. Obama said himself, if we pass this stimulus NOW, unemployment would not go above 8% and by mid 2012 unemployment would be down to 5.6%. Instead we got unemployment over 8% and holding.

Now all you Obama lovers want to repeat this same borrow and spend mentality and continue your love affair with 8% unemployment, to keep society dependent on your most loved entitlement programs. That's right, liberals have never been about creating jobs, just the opposite, you kill jobs to create an entitlement society dependent on your big beloved government.
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And therefore it's okay for Romney to be a complete hyporite liar? Or is that just a generic rant because you can't defend Romney?
 
AdamT said:
And therefore it's okay for Romney to be a complete hyporite liar? Or is that just a generic rant because you can't defend Romney?
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anything to deflect from Obama's lack of competence
 
AdamT said:
Another jaw-dropping example of Romney's dishonesty has surfaced -- one that essentially obliterates his main argument against Obama. Romney has constantly argued in this campaign that he should be chosen over Obama because of Obama's record on jobs. In making the argument, he points to job losses, virtually all of which occurred within Obama's fist year in office. Since then, of course, the country has experienced almost three years of continuous jobs growth.

But what did Romney say about Romney's record when he was governor of Massachusettes?



[video]http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DArRj-dQXX3Y%26feature%3Dplayer_embedded&feature=player_ embedded&v=ArRj-dQXX3Y&gl=US[/video]

I'm speechless. :scared:
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Obviously you are not speechless.
 
TurtleDude said:
anything to deflect from Obama's lack of competence
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Anything to deflect from the fact that your candidate is a pathological liar. :lol:
 
lpast said:
Oh you mean ALL that the teaparty has accomplished since last election...oh wait...they have accomplished in polishing the word NO to a brilliant sheen....and lets not forget bush who broke our bank long before obama was involved...theres enough blame to go all around..
Your pretty much the one sided hackerooo yourself there TD :) I put the smile so no one snitched on me lol
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Im going to run this by you since you seem to be ignoring it.
In 2010 there was an unprecedented wave of GOP reps put in elected positions throughout the country. They were not put in there because the public agreed with Obama's policies. Mull that over and let it sink in: they were elected to block the liberal agenda. They are doing what they were elected to do.

The overwhelming impetus from government is always to do more. Its about time we got some people elected that want government to do less, because we cannot afford for it do more any longer.
 
AdamT said:
Anything to deflect from the fact that your candidate is a pathological liar. :lol:
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sounds like such a candidate would be your ideal representative then?

Obama is a lying scumbag and incompetent. Yeah the HCA is not a TAX
 
TurtleDude said:
sounds like such a candidate would be your ideal representative then?

Obama is a lying scumbag and incompetent. Yeah the HCA is not a TAX
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Romney said it wasn't ... and was ... and wasn't ... and was again. :lol:
 
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