IndepCentristMA
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Neener Neener?flip flop flip flop flip flop flip flop...how can you vote for someone who isnt even sure where they stand on an issue from day to day? flip, flop, flip, flop
Awww, upset you didn't get to vote for Bush against Kerry, that you're trying it out now? This post indicates the political maturity of a child that just discovered that paste tastes minty...
1st, it's a Ron Paul video. Do you think Ron Paul is going to vote for Obama? The video didn't work for Ron Paul, it's not going to work for Obama either.
It’s filled with parsed words and bad sound bytes, mostly of reporters comments about Romney, not Romney himself. Even still, these aren't even flip-flops.
1) Being for a stimulus is not being in favor of the president's stimulus. Get the difference? I like soda, but I dont like diet soda. You can be in favor of something being done, but not how it's done
2) He was pro-choice. Now he's pro-life... that's called a change of heart on an issue (an issue many people get more conservative about with age), not a change of political stance in front of some people, that he does back on in front of other people, an aspect of flip-flop ppl don't get. This is a flip; there's no flop. Since 2005 (7 years), he’s been consistently pro-life. In that time you've probably flipped on your support of the Backstreet Boys, Dawson’s Creek, zombies being cool, and supporting a president even though he sucks.
3) He was an independent during Reagan & Bush--a businessman who wasnt politically inclined. He was being attacked in 94 as being aligned with Reagan and Bush, he wasn't, in 1994 (that's 18 yrs ago, btw... back when Obama was still smoking crack)
4) They totally misrepresent his career at Bain, and the entire private equity business. Romney's success rate with Bain was 80%-20% despite investing in companies that were in financial ruin at the time. That's a remarkable success rate of saving companies & turning them around!
5) It's hilarious that they're gonna go at him for getting donations from people who work at wall st organizations. Guess what, those are the people who have large sums of money to donate to campaign such as these. They're heavily in the coffers of every candidate. There's a difference between going out and fundraising for a campaign, and taking money from lobbyists when in office. That's what his comments were towards. It’s also great saying he was engineered by east german scientists :roll: god forbid the guy actually looks presidential, that's such a bad thing.
6) Romney's comments about the president setting up a health exchange were prior to the creation of ObamaCare, when they were just discussing what they might do. The eventual plan they set up in Washington is nothing like what Romney did in MA. Also, Romney's stated position at the time, which you can find all over the place is that he thought it was a model that the states could use across the country, but that it wasn't the only solution, and that other states might have other plans which suit their states needs. His position has been consistent.
7) Romney never hired an illegal. He had a landscaping company taking care of his lawn. The Globe put out a story that 1 of the landscapers was an illegal immigrant. How would Romney have known? Is he responsible for checking the birth certificates of all the employees of every company he ever has a service from? When he found out, since it was a trusted landscaper he had for years he went to the landscapers and told them to have him fired, when they didnt, he changed landscaping companies. Nothing wrong with how he handled that.
8) He changed his position on a ballot issue in OH? LMFAO really? Cuz I can't think for the life of me how or why a ballot issue in OH would have any pending on his life to have held a position in the first place! He said specifically, "Im not here to comment on specific ballot issues" because he didn't know about them most likely. When begged to comment he comes out and says he supports “I think its called question 2". Oh no, he better be careful how he stands there :roll:
9) Notice how they didnt give the years on the no tax thing? That's because in 2007, when running, he didn't sign a no tax pledge. It hurt him in the race with McCain. Come 2011, he saw it as his political advantage, that no other candidate would sign it, so he did. That's not a flip-flop, that's just how the game of politics is played. It's a race, you take whatever is to your advantage and exploit it. It's a different campaign strategy after a failed previous one. That’s not a flip-flop
10) He signed an extension of an existing assault weapons ban, but is not in favor of any additional assault weapon legislation. No incosistency there! There’s a difference. Let me slow it down for you. I just ate an omlette, but im full and don't want another. Uh oh, I was in favor of the omlette before I was against it!
11) LMFAO @ the 2010 "TARP ought to be ended" comment being used as a flip-flop, from a comment 3 years before in 2008 when he said it was the right thing to do. That's neither flip nor flop. Do you not get, that at the time, something of the equivalent of TARP had to happen, but that in 2010, when the recession was over, there was no need for the Geithner to still have $300B funds available to use under TARP's authorization, that the time and place for it was long gone?
12) GM and Chrysler did go bankrupt. Both of them went into structured bankruptcy, the very thing that Romney was advocating (Only, after the President gave $65B away). Romney would've sent them to structured bankruptcy and saved the US taxpayers $65B in the process.
So the guy has been in the political spotlight since 1994 (18 years), and all you have is a dozen badly clipped phrases, that hint at a contradiction that isn't actually there?
This video truly is a "fail"... It even misspells Romney as "Romeny"...