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How about this: if people are using insults as part of their argument, they have no room to complain when insults are returned. I am responsible for my words and stand by them, but my arguments are at least reasoned. Religion is, by definition, not.

That is false - religion, has, in fact, given us many of our most logical minds, and not a few of our greatest philosophers and scientists. It is also often intensely personal, which is why I compared it to the implicit understanding that it would be wrong of a believer to come in here on a tear about your mother rotting in hell for being a homosexual etc and so forth (I'm not claiming she is or isn't or will or won't - I have no idea, as I am not on that committee). It's needlessly insultingly rude and deliberately hurtful of others.
 
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I know you love this country and I know you feel for every man and woman that died fighting for us all. And I am thankful you came home safe and loved this country enough to continue staying in the service for so many years, married to the same lovely woman you fell in love with and continued serving the best you thought you could do FOR the country. I think we all learned our lessons well, by how we treated you and your sisters and brothers when they came home from Nam. Fonda is scum and will always be scum to many. We will never...EVER..forget those 58,000 names on that wall any more than we will ever forget Hanoi Jane. For our generation, I am so sorry for what you experienced when you came back to the country you fought so hard for, only to be reviled and called baby killers and spat upon. It was shameful, and if there were ever a term that fits..this is it: "Never Again". And it hasn't. We treat all soldiers with respect, from what I have seen and heard (except for scum like Westboro Baptist church, for example). But for you and your brothers and sister in arms..they didn't get the respect that was due them. God bless you all.

I just feel perturbed when you call Obama, Hussein. He may be a bad president or an unworthy one, but he IS president. He may be again. He may not. He is NOT the end all of what the USA is. So to continually insult him doesn't solve anything. He isn't really important enough to stress over. We all know how you feel about him. Some agree, some don't. I just wish you can find some peace now in your golden years with your wife and not "go out" so angry and have just a bit more tolerance. Maybe just a little. You lived your life, you loved, you fought, you saw death, you saw life. Now enjoy yourself in the time you have left until you go meet those you loved and lost in this lifetime.

Again, thank you for your devotion to the united states of america. God bless America, NP. I love it too.

I know you love this country as much as I do....It has its faults but it is still the greatest country in the world....You seem very wise beyond you age and putting aside our political differences I would be proud to call you my friend...You probably don't think I have any Liberal or gay friends but that is not true.........My neighbors Bob and Mary are both Hard Core liberals and we argue all the time across the fence but we still have parites and barbecues together......I already told you about my gay friend on the Golf team whom I am good friends with....I feel so sorry for him because he lost his partner to AIDS......I went to his funeral....It was a terrible loss..........I don't think there was a dry eye there including me............

As far as Obama and his name goes, the name was given to him by his father.......Some have defined it and its very flattering....Why lefties get upset when I call him by it I will never understand My biggest fear is for him to get reelected and then he will have nothin g to fear and he can drag us into total bankruptcy..I truly believe that is his goal......


I am sorry I can not heed your request.........
 
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No, it is not a statisitical one, it is spin. Something conservatives have to do alot of since facts are not in their favor.

See how easy it is to do **** like that? Mine was even more accurate than yours.

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Conservatives give more to charity than liberals: in fact, people who reject the idea that "government has a responsibility to reduce income inequality" give an average of FOUR TIMES more than people who accept that proposition.

are we done with this stupid aside?
 
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:shrug: if you want to claim his posting as your standard, that's on you. Left leaning persons do tend to have a greater affinity for spending others' money than their own, but that is a different topic.



:) glad to do so.

Leviticus 18 (NIV) provides for us a list of sexual restrictions. It basically boils down to: no incest, no bestiality, no child-sacrifice, no homosexuality, and if you start to bless and do these things, the Lord will remove his blessings from you. The last bit may be a Deuderonomistic comment, I don't know - I'm TAD and away from my books. Leviticus 20 (NIV) has a similar list, adds in adultery (and magic!:)), and includes various penalties to be assigned - the penalty for homosexuality being the same as adultery, bestiality, laying-with-your-fathers-wife and so on: death.

The penalty inclusion is important: there are basically three layers of Old Testament L/law: Universal Law, Cultural Law, and Ritual Law. So, for example, the dimensions of the temple as originally designed by Solomon are not and have never been considered as binding for any other building. Orthodox Jews who are part of that Talmudic tradition which grew out of the Pharisee movement of the NT era attempt to keep Universal and Cultural Law, while keeping what parts of the Ritual Law are possible without the presence of a central Temple.

Christians, however, hold that the penalty for all sin is death, really. Maybe not immediately on this planet, but death of a far worse kind. Quite the dilemma, considering that each and all of us are sinners. The coming, death, and resurrection of Jesus didn't just remake how man interacted with God, it remade the shape of the entire universe. The NT, thus, has a series of discussions on at what points the new reality of mans' interaction with God supersedes the demands of the OT. In Acts 10, for example, Peter has a series of visions where the Judaic cultural code is annulled, an alteration that is emphasized in an even more dramatic manner in the Council at Jerusalem (Acts 15) when Peter, James, (with Barnabas and Paul in attendance) declare that circumcision is no longer required - nor indeed the Mosaic Law.

Which isn't to say there is no law - the Universal Law is still very much in effect - and there are sexual components of it as well. Paul had to deal with several of them, particularly in his letters to the Corinthians (Corinth was a Navy Town :D). In I Corinthians 6, for example, he goes on a tear at them about Incest, and Adultery, and Homosexuality, and Prostitution, and Thieving, and Swindling (like I said, it was a sea port) and so on and so forth. He get's mad at them for suing each other, for lying about each other... you get the drift. Sexual immorality, he points out, is sort of unique: Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body. Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price.

There are other points where it comes up. Romans 1 (NIV), for example. But I think you get the gist.

WOW that is total run about. I hope you follow all Levitical laws:roll:

Now then what about Corinthians....and fornication maybe.
 
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:shrug: if you want to claim his posting as your standard, that's on you. Left leaning persons do tend to have a greater affinity for spending others' money than their own, but that is a different topic.


Moving the goalposts. Nice to see. Your comment was still spin and not based on fact. Sorry.
 
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I am no expert in what the Bible says, nor believe in half of it. Dad always told be to believe nothing of what I hear, half of what I see. Not sure where reading comes in to that.

With that said...I am not God fearing, but I believe fully in God. The christian God, although I am not a christian fan (sorry, no offense intended. I like Ghandi's quote too). I don't fear God because He loves me. He loves all His children. Including gays.

I had two roomies. A couple. Actually, I had 3 sets of gay guys that lived here as couples. The last couple is who I will speak of right now. Amir was from Iran or Iraq. I don't remember which. He spoke Farsi. His partner was born not far from here. An American. Amir was awesome. But he has scars all over his shoulders and back. He was almost killed because he was gay, so his mother sent him to the USA so he would be safe. That is when he met Thomas. I never asked the details of those scars because he always tried to hide them when we passed in the hall as he went to the kitchen or bathroom and didn't have his shirt on.

What I saw with Thomas and Amir was love. They didn't kiss or do anything different than heterosexuals do that was tacky. They hugged. Amir would cook wonderful meals for Thomas and Thomas would sit at the breakfast bar while dinner was being prepared. They would talk softly, or Amir would giggle the funniest way. They were both lovely men, in love with each other, and wanted the same thing my husband I had. Marriage. Civil union. Whatever you want to call it. I loved them both. So how could God feel any less love for his two children who loved each other? How can anyone deny love? They were partners. Best friends. Lovers. And they wanted to be connected just like everyone else, and accepted, and joined with blessings from God (Allah). But they can't.

So I'm asking you, NP, to consider love itself. Just love. Judge not lest ye be judged. That part rings true to me. Open your heart, NP. Let them love, as you have been allowed to love. And see it for what it is. It is not nasty or gross or bad. It is love in it's purest form. If you can do that, or work on it, then you will experience enlightenment we all seek...which makes us as close to God as we can be.
 
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Well, you managed to not answer my question and to make a valiant attempt at evading it. I will help you.

The answer is that your view is far from universal. Quite the opposite.

That is correct. The view that the holocaust happened is also not universal - but rather quite the opposite. That doesn't mean that Ahmadenijad's theories are to be held up in some kind of ridiculous parity, but rather recognized for the attempts at later redaction that they are. Attempts to reshape and leap through mental hoops in order to pluck homosexuality out of the NT are the same - attempts at redaction in order to meet a pre-approved endpoint that serves as a justification or at least removes a condemnation.

People cannot even agree how many books are in the bible let alone on interpretations. You choose your interpretation since it gives you handy people to look down upon and feel superior to.

On the contrary - going around feeling superior to others (Pride) is just as wrong as any other sin. You may want to think twice before you begin to claim the ability to read others' minds, hearts, and motives.

Meanwhile in the real world, gays are just as good as strait people

correct! :)
 
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That is false - religion, has, in fact, given us many of our most logical minds, and not a few of our greatest philosophers and scientists. It is also often intensely personal, which is why I compared it to the implicit understanding that it would be wrong of a believer to come in here on a tear about your mother rotting in hell for being a homosexual etc and so forth (I'm not claiming she is or isn't or will or won't - I have no idea, as I am not on that committee). It's needlessly insultingly rude and deliberately hurtful of others.

No, in fact you cannot prove that those people, in the absense of religion, would not have done more or the same as they did. Being religious does not mean everything they did was because they where religious. Religion itself, being faith based, is not based on rational, logical thought.
 
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Should we in Washington have to vote on this in November, dont hold your breath on us shooting it down. We're not like "those other" states...it'll be a fight, but Marriage Equality has the odds. Many state Republican Senators showed support for Christine Gregorie when she legalized Gay Marriage... and aside a few Catholics (the ones pushing the hardest), our religious community is quite progressive.

Your excitement is cute, but a bit premature.

More and more Americans are opening up to Marriage Equality. You guys are outnumbered. The more tolerant we are, the more tolerant our kids are...we're creating generations of tolerance for LGB&T's. If Republicans continue to run on the promise of limiting marriage to one man one woman, they're going to have a hard time in future elections...all of them, city, state and national. Progression is inevitable...the bible even says as much.

How many homosexual couples do you see in any given day? Me? here a gay friendly state? None. Yep. 0. Where does this fear of letting two people of the same sex enter into a legal binding contract come from? What do think is going to happen if gay people get married? Gay people are married now....how are they hurting you?

We hate what we fear....so what are you afraid of?

No one is asking you to make friends with homosexuals... but you're going to have to evolve when it comes to their rights. Progression is powerful.

Well if they can pass one in Oregon and California two of the most liberals states in this co****ry they can sure as hell pass one here......Its never lost yet when put to a vote of the people and that is over two thirds of the states........You lose my left wing friend......sorry
 
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I know you love this country as much as I do....It has its faults but it is still the greatest country in the world....You seem very wise beyond you age and putting aside our political differences I would be proud to call you my friend...You probably don't think I have any Liberal or gay friends but that is not true.........My neighbors Bob and Mary are both Hard Core liberals and we argue all the time across the fence but we still have parites and barbecues together......I already told you about my gay friend on the Golf team whom I am good friends with....I feel so sorry for him because he lost his partner to AIDS......I went to his funeral....It was a terrible loss..........I don't think there was a dry eye there including me............

As far as Obama and his name goes, the name was given to him by his father.......Some have defined it and its very flattering....Why lefties get upset when I call him by it I will never understand My biggest fear is for him to get reelected and then he will have nothin g to fear and he can drag us into total bankruptcy..I truly believe that is his goal......


I am sorry I can not heed your request.........

We were posting at the same time. I did not know you had gay friends. You and I have not met except in passing. Pleased to meet you, NP. :)
Anyway...I am your generation, lol. I will be 60 this october. Hubby is 65. I did not spit on people coming home from Nam. I wore MIA bracelets and wanted to spit on Fonda.

So....I will now just say I hope to see you around more often in more fluffy threads, lol. Politics make my blood pressure sky rocket so I try to take it little at a time. :mrgreen:
 
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That is correct. The view that the holocaust happened is also not universal - but rather quite the opposite. That doesn't mean that Ahmadenijad's theories are to be held up in some kind of ridiculous parity, but rather recognized for the attempts at later redaction that they are.

There is a significant difference between a historical event this century, and supernatural events 2000 or more years ago. Nice try.

On the contrary - going around feeling superior to others (Pride) is just as wrong as any other sin. You may want to think twice before you begin to claim the ability to read others' minds, hearts, and motives.

So should we ban prodeful people from being married? That is patently absurd, but banning gay people from marrying, that is ok.


Funny how you had to end that before the inconvienient facts came up.
 
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Moving the goalposts. Nice to see. Your comment was still spin and not based on fact. Sorry.

All I ever claimed was that there was statistical evidence that liberals preferred to give others' money rather than their own. You insisted that you claiming this was wrong was in itself evidence that it was wrong, and then I linked for you the fact that liberals do in fact, give less of their own money than conservatives. If you need me to prove that liberals tend to support measures which cause others money to be spent... then I think you are rejecting reality so as to not concede a point.
 
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All I ever claimed was that there was statistical evidence that liberals preferred to give others' money rather than their own. You insisted that you claiming this was wrong was in itself evidence that it was wrong, and then I linked for you the fact that liberals do in fact, give less of their own money than conservatives. If you need me to prove that liberals tend to support measures which cause others money to be spent... then I think you are rejecting reality so as to not concede a point.

Let me slow this down for you. Let's look at this statement: "liberals preferred to give others' money rather than their own." Notice there are two parts to it. You failed to prove either part. PROTIP: just because you spin something to mean something different from reality does not make it so.
 
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There is a significant difference between a historical event this century, and supernatural events 2000 or more years ago.

I am unaware of the miracles of the NT era that address homosexuality; perhaps you could enlighten me.

However, recent redaction remains recent redaction; and it remains intellectually illegitimate.

So should we ban prodeful people from being married?

No one has argued so. Nor has anyone argued that sinful people shouldn't get married - none of us would be able to in that case.

That is patently absurd, but banning gay people from marrying, that is ok.

:shrug: as much as a "ban" on incestual couples getting married.

Funny how you had to end that before the inconvienient facts came up.

:) those are not facts - they are your beliefs.
 
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I disagree, if it was not his name then it would be baiting...........Its his given name...........I respect you and consider you a friend but I really think its important for everyone to know that he has a Muslim name.

NP... that's bull**** and you know it. You're just doing it to bait. That's all. You think it associates him with Muslims... which it does not. Everytime you do it, it makes what you say sound STUPID. I've spent a lot of time on this site defending you. I have asked you to stop doing this and you have refused. That is the very definition of a partisan hack. You would prefer to attack those you oppose than listen to your friend and do the right thing. You don't care about anything except attacking others... even when I'VE asked you to stop. If that's the way you want it... so be it.
 
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Let me slow this down for you. Let's look at this statement: "liberals preferred to give others' money rather than their own." Notice there are two parts to it. You failed to prove either part. PROTIP: just because you spin something to mean something different from reality does not make it so.

ah, good point.

Liberals dont' actually give their own money as much as conservatives - but do support giving other people's money more than conservatives. I hereby admit that I assumed they did this in knowledge and acceptance of their own actions. :roll:

You got peeved, he actually had a legitimate point (no idea if he knew it or not), and it's irrelevant.
 
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WOW that is total run about.

Not at all, it's something you asked for and which I put effort into putting together for you because you did so.

I hope you follow all Levitical laws

:roll: You didn't even read the dang thing. Never mind. Evidently you aren't interested in discussion, but would prefer to spout off and consider yourself enlightened and witty.
 
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ah, good point.

Liberals dont' actually give their own money as much as conservatives - but do support giving other people's money more than conservatives. I hereby admit that I assumed they did this in knowledge and acceptance of their own actions. :roll:

You got peeved, he actually had a legitimate point (no idea if he knew it or not), and it's irrelevant.

I guess if conservatives gave enough there would be no need for liberals...
 
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:shrug: if you want to claim his posting as your standard, that's on you. Left leaning persons do tend to have a greater affinity for spending others' money than their own, but that is a different topic.



:) glad to do so.

Leviticus 18 (NIV) provides for us a list of sexual restrictions. It basically boils down to: no incest, no bestiality, no child-sacrifice, no homosexuality, and if you start to bless and do these things, the Lord will remove his blessings from you. The last bit may be a Deuderonomistic comment, I don't know - I'm TAD and away from my books. Leviticus 20 (NIV) has a similar list, adds in adultery (and magic!:)), and includes various penalties to be assigned - the penalty for homosexuality being the same as adultery, bestiality, laying-with-your-fathers-wife and so on: death.

The penalty inclusion is important: there are basically three layers of Old Testament L/law: Universal Law, Cultural Law, and Ritual Law. So, for example, the dimensions of the temple as originally designed by Solomon are not and have never been considered as binding for any other building. Orthodox Jews who are part of that Talmudic tradition which grew out of the Pharisee movement of the NT era attempt to keep Universal and Cultural Law, while keeping what parts of the Ritual Law are possible without the presence of a central Temple.

Christians, however, hold that the penalty for all sin is death, really. Maybe not immediately on this planet, but death of a far worse kind. Quite the dilemma, considering that each and all of us are sinners. The coming, death, and resurrection of Jesus didn't just remake how man interacted with God, it remade the shape of the entire universe. The NT, thus, has a series of discussions on at what points the new reality of mans' interaction with God supersedes the demands of the OT. In Acts 10, for example, Peter has a series of visions where the Judaic cultural code is annulled, an alteration that is emphasized in an even more dramatic manner in the Council at Jerusalem (Acts 15) when Peter, James, (with Barnabas and Paul in attendance) declare that circumcision is no longer required - nor indeed the Mosaic Law.

Which isn't to say there is no law - the Universal Law is still very much in effect - and there are sexual components of it as well. Paul had to deal with several of them, particularly in his letters to the Corinthians (Corinth was a Navy Town :D). In I Corinthians 6, for example, he goes on a tear at them about Incest, and Adultery, and Homosexuality, and Prostitution, and Thieving, and Swindling (like I said, it was a sea port) and so on and so forth. He get's mad at them for suing each other, for lying about each other... you get the drift. Sexual immorality, he points out, is sort of unique: Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body. Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price.

There are other points where it comes up. Romans 1 (NIV), for example. But I think you get the gist.

Just an FYI. All of the stuff you posted about Leviticus is inaccurate. It has been misinterpreted and misread for centuries. I have done extensive research on this and posted what those verses really mean several times at DP.
 
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I guess if conservatives gave enough there would be no need for liberals...

:D perhaps, although I tend to doubt you can ever "give" enough to actually help others. You don't ultimately help by enabling.
 
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:roll: You didn't even read the dang thing. Never mind. Evidently you aren't interested in discussion, but would prefer to spout off and consider yourself enlightened and witty.


Yes I read the thing. And it was a tangent on your own accord. Are you going to address Corinthians or not?
 
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Just an FYI. All of the stuff you posted about Leviticus is inaccurate. It has been misinterpreted and misread for centuries. I have done extensive research on this and posted what those verses really mean several times at DP.

Yeah, I've seen some of your stuff before, I think, and I recall being unconvinced - it strikes me that the discussion of sexuality fits together in the OT too neatly to pick out like that. :shrug: Which is still sort of immaterial, as my point is that the Levitical code is not the controlling piece at play here.
 
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Yeah, I've seen some of your stuff before, I think, and I recall being unconvinced - it strikes me that the discussion of sexuality fits together in the OT too neatly to pick out like that. :shrug: Which is still sort of immaterial, as my point is that the Levitical code is not the controlling piece at play here.

As far as I'm concerned, Levitical code is the controlling piece here. I'm Jewish and do not recognize the NT as having any legitimate claim towards code.

Beyond that, your being "unconvinced" is nice, but irrelevant without any semblance of refutation.
 
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:D perhaps, although I tend to doubt you can ever "give" enough to actually help others. You don't ultimately help by enabling.

Your cliches are boring. Everybody wants to do something even the janitor and be the best they can be. Ya want to beat them up for that pay them poverty wages go for it. They will turn into crap.
 
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Yes I read the thing. And it was a tangent on your own accord. Are you going to address Corinthians or not?

Dude, I brought up Corinthians.

Lawsuits Among Believers

6 If any of you has a dispute with another, do you dare to take it before the ungodly for judgment instead of before the Lord’s people? 2 Or do you not know that the Lord’s people will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases? 3 Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life! 4 Therefore, if you have disputes about such matters, do you ask for a ruling from those whose way of life is scorned in the church? 5 I say this to shame you. Is it possible that there is nobody among you wise enough to judge a dispute between believers? 6 But instead, one brother takes another to court—and this in front of unbelievers!

7 The very fact that you have lawsuits among you means you have been completely defeated already. Why not rather be wronged? Why not rather be cheated? 8 Instead, you yourselves cheat and do wrong, and you do this to your brothers and sisters. 9 Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men[a] 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.
Sexual Immorality

12 “I have the right to do anything,” you say—but not everything is beneficial. “I have the right to do anything”—but I will not be mastered by anything. 13 You say, “Food for the stomach and the stomach for food, and God will destroy them both.” The body, however, is not meant for sexual immorality but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. 14 By his power God raised the Lord from the dead, and he will raise us also. 15 Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ himself? Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with a prostitute? Never! 16 Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, “The two will become one flesh.” 17 But whoever is united with the Lord is one with him in spirit.[c]

18 Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a person commits are outside the body, but whoever sins sexually, sins against their own body. 19 Do you not know that your bodies are temples of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; 20 you were bought at a price. Therefore honor God with your bodies.
Footnotes:

a. 1 Corinthians 6:9 The words men who have sex with men translate two Greek words that refer to the passive and active participants in homosexual acts.
b. 1 Corinthians 6:16 Gen. 2:24
c. 1 Corinthians 6:17 Or in the Spirit


now, Paul does discuss marriage:

7 Now for the matters you wrote about: “It is good for a man not to have sexual relations with a woman.” 2 But since sexual immorality is occurring, each man should have sexual relations with his own wife, and each woman with her own husband. 3 The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband. 4 The wife does not have authority over her own body but yields it to her husband. In the same way, the husband does not have authority over his own body but yields it to his wife. 5 Do not deprive each other except perhaps by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control....

and he describes it in the exact same way that Jesus did, as a sexual union between a man and a woman:

Matthew 19 (NIV):

...When Jesus had finished saying these things, he left Galilee and went into the region of Judea to the other side of the Jordan. 2 Large crowds followed him, and he healed them there.

3 Some Pharisees came to him to test him. They asked, “Is it lawful for a man to divorce his wife for any and every reason?”

4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’[a] 5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’? 6 So they are no longer two, but one flesh. Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”...
 
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