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There is so much wrong with Romney’s response that I hardly know where to start.

What bothers me is that he showed no remorse, actually laughed about it, and still has not apologized for the pain and anguish he caused.

It's alleged... He said he doesn't remember it and that if it happened that he apologizes. My bet is that he may have been laughing due to the absurdity of bringing up an alleged incident when he was a teenager.
 
WTF?? How does something he did 47 years ago speak to his character today??

Dayam. Romney has plenty of faults which will be highlighted between now and the election. This is meaningless and is only going to help Romney gain support by some of those who recognize it's a ridiculous attack on him.


First, yes, it does speak to his character today, especially since he continues such behavior to this day (e.g., firing his campaign staffer for being gay). Then there's his fight against anti-bullying laws while Governor of Massachusetts. Character is largely established by age 4-5. He is what he is.
 
Here's Obama's own account of the incident...

"For the rest of the afternoon, I was haunted by the look on Coretta’s face just before she had started to run: her disappointment, and the accusation. I wanted to explain to her somehow that it had been nothing personal; I’d just never had a girlfriend before and saw no particular need to have one now. But I didn’t even know if that was true. Iknew only that it was too late for explanations, that somehow I’d been tested and found wanting; and whenever I snuck a glance at Coretta’s desk, I would see her with her head bent over her work, appearing as if nothing had happened, pulled into herself and asking no favors."


Contrast that with Romney "I don't recall" and dismissing it as a "prank" or "hijinks". Then add in the severity of the offense.

As Blow said, "Americans want a president who doesn’t target the weak, but valiantly seeks to protect them."

I guess I'll have to emmulate the late, great Paul Harvey and tell "the rest of the story"...that is unless you've read the actual account of the above incident directly from the President's book which I shall quote verbatim.

The story begins on page 60 of the book, "Dreams from my Father;" however, in order to give the incident its full measure, I will begin on page 59 where a young "Barry" Obama is accompanied by his maternal grandfather on his first day of school since moving back to Hawaii at age 10.

[So] it was with a great rush of excitement that Gramps accompanied me on my first day of school. He had insisted that we arrive early, and Castle Hall, the building for the fifth and sixth graders, was not yet opened. A handful of children had already arrive, busy catching up on the summemr's news. We sat beside a slender Chinese boy who had a large dental retainer strapped around his neck.

'Hi there," Gramps said to the boy. "This here's Barry. I'm Barry's grandfather. You can call me Gramps." He shook hands with the boy, whose name was Frederick. "Barry's new."

"Me, too," Frederick said, and the two of them launched into a lively conversation. I sat, embarrased, until the doors finally opened and we went up the stairs to our classroom. At the door, Gramps slapped both of us on the back.

"Don't do anything I would do," he said with a grin.

"Your grandfather's funny," Frederick said as we watched Gramps introduce himself to Miss Hefty, our homeroom teacher.

"Yeah. He is."

We sat at the table with four other children, and Miss Hefty, an energetic middle-aged woman with short gray hair, took attendance. When she read my full name, I heard titters break across the room. Frederick leaned over to me.

"I thought your name was Barry."

"Would you prefer if we called you Barry?," Miss Hefty asked.

"Barack is such a beautiful name. Your grandfather tells me your father is Kenyan. I used to live in Kenya, you know. Teaching children just your age. It's such a mangnificent country. Do you know what tribe your father is from?"

Her question brough on more giggles, and I remained speechless for a moment. When I finally said "Luo," a sandy-haired boy behind me repeated the word in a loud hoot, like the sound of a monkey. The children could no longer contain themselves, and it took a stern reprimand from Miss Hefty before the class would settle down and we could mercifully move on to the next person on the list.

I spent the rest of the day in a daze. A redheaded girl asked to touch my hair and seemed hurt when I refused. A ruddy-faced boy asked me if my father ate people. When I got home, Gramps was in the middle of preparing dinner.

"So, how was it? Isn't it terrific that Miss Hefty used to live in Kenya? Makes the first day a little easier, I'll bet."

I went into my room and closed the door.

The novelty of having me in the class quickly wore off for the other kids, although my sense that I didn't belong continued to grow. The clothes that Gramps and I had chosen for me were too old-fashioned; the Indonesian sandals that had served me so well in Djakarta were dowdy. Most of my classmates had been together since kindergarten; they lived in the same neighborhoods, in split-level homes with swimming poos; their fathers coached the same Little League teams; their mothers sponsored the bake sales. Nobody played soccer or badminton or chess, and I had no idea how to throw a football in a spiral or balance on a skateboard.

A ten-year old's naightmare. Still, in my discomfort that first month, I was no worse off than the other children who were relegated to the category of misfits - the girls who were too tall or too shy, the boy who was mildly hyperactive, the kids whose asthma excused them from PE.

Now, here's where the pushing incident comes into focus...

There was one other child in my class, though, who reminded me of a different sort of pain. Her name was Coretta, and before my arrival she had been the only black person in our grade. She was plump and dark and didn't seem to have many friends. From the first day, we avoided each other but watched from a distance, as if direct contact would only remind us more keenly of our isolation.

Finally, during recess one hot, cloudless day, we found ourselves occupying the same corner of the playground. I don't remember what we said to each other, but I remember that suddenly she was chasing me around the jungle gyms and swings. She was laughting brightly, and I teased her and dodged this way and that, until she finally caught me and we fell to the ground breathless. When I looked up, I saw a group of children, faceless before the glare of the sun, pointing down at us.

"Coretta has a boyfriend! Coretta has a boyfriend!"

The changes grew louder as a few more kids circled us.

"She's not my g-girlfriend," I stammered. I looked to Coretta for some assistance, but she just stood there looking down at the ground.

"Coretta's got a boyfriend! Why don't you kiss her, mister boyfriend?"

"I'm not her boyfriend!," I shouted. I ran up to Coretta and gave her a slight shove, she staggered back and looked up at me, but still said nothing. "Leave me alone!," I shouted again. And suddenly Coretta was running, faster and faster, until she disappeared from sight. Appreciative laughs rose around me. Then the bell rang, and the teachers appeared to round us back into class.

And now you know "the rest of the story".
 
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This is a good example of why childhood incidents don't necessarily "mean" anything. After all, President Obama apparently grew up to be a man very respectful of women...who has chosen to surround himself with smart women he can't push around, including his wife. ;)
 
I guess I'll have to emmulate the late, great Paul Harvey and tell "the rest of the story"...that is unless you've read the actual account of the above incident directly from the President's book which I shall quote verbatim.

The story begins on page 60 of the book, "Dreams from my Father;" however, in order to give the incident its full measure, I will begin on page 59 where a young "Barry" Obama is accompanied by his maternal grandfather on his first day of school since moving back to Hawaii at age 10.



Now, here's where the pushing incident comes into focus...



And now you know "the rest of the story".

That sounds to me like very ordinary experiences from elementary school. What are they supposed to mean?
 

Hmmm, at least you took a stab at it. However, your first link is about the influence of advertising on children and not about character. It doesn't even mention character. And your second link is about behavior, not character; and most notably, bad behavior, though it at least it mentions character in the title. But I suppose it could be argued that character is a learned behavior, so I concede that.
 
it's so god damn pathetic and infuriating when people forget things that never happened! Makes me wanna post some inane babble on a message board somewhere.
 
Never happened? You need to better vet your sources.

I totally agree. The victims family is never to be believed, unless they are black people.
 
Yeah, no group has ever had it so rough as whites in America.

I totally agree. When I'm getting my ass owned, it's a great time to throw out as many red herrings as possible.
 
Why does anyone care about an incident that may or may not have happened over forty years ago when Romney was a teen?

Anyone here who didn't do something stupid when he/she was a teen? Anyone, anyone????

and we do understand that, if no real dirt can be dug up on any candidate from any party, it will simply be invented, then any dirt, real or imagined, the size of a mole hill will soon become a mountain, don't we?

The issue is more about his current response to this than the incident himself. Yes, many current stand-out citizens have pasts or events in their past they are not proud of. The important point, however, is they know they are not proud of these things and are reflective and remorseful. Romney blew it off in his typical non-human way which defines him too well. Not to mention that he did not man-up to it... but when has Romney manned up on anything in this election without checking with his handlers first.
 
it's so god damn pathetic and infuriating when people forget things that never happened! Makes me wanna post some inane babble on a message board somewhere.

...even Romney is not making that claim, so how can you?
 
The issue is more about his current response to this than the incident himself. Yes, many current stand-out citizens have pasts or events in their past they are not proud of. The important point, however, is they know they are not proud of these things and are reflective and remorseful. Romney blew it off in his typical non-human way which defines him too well. Not to mention that he did not man-up to it... but when has Romney manned up on anything in this election without checking with his handlers first.

if it ever really happened in the first place.

bringing up this sort of thing is a lot like the McCain strategy in the last election, or more accurately, the strategy of the Anyone But Obama (ABO): saying that Obama was a Marxist, that he was a Kenyan, that he was a muslim, etc. only distracted from the real issues of policy and experience.

Anyone who would listen to garbage like that, or like the non story about Romney, wouldn't vote across party lines if "their" party were running a Voldemort/Mephistopheles ticket.
 
if it ever really happened in the first place.

No one, including Rmoney, is disputing that it happened. On the contrary, multiple witnesses have come forward and said it did happen. One of these witnesses is the former Chair of the Republican Party of Michigan. Maybe he's biased and making it up, huh?
 
if it ever really happened in the first place.

bringing up this sort of thing is a lot like the McCain strategy in the last election, or more accurately, the strategy of the Anyone But Obama (ABO): saying that Obama was a Marxist, that he was a Kenyan, that he was a muslim, etc. only distracted from the real issues of policy and experience.

Anyone who would listen to garbage like that, or like the non story about Romney, wouldn't vote across party lines if "their" party were running a Voldemort/Mephistopheles ticket.

It isn't the same. I am surprised you do not understand the difference. One deals with a matter of fact and eligibility to run for president. This thing is pretty easy to objectively dismiss; and it was. The other deals with an event and a matter of behavior, which is not so is to prove actually happened (or didn't happen) and speaks to character.

First, McCain is not behind the Kenyan thing, it came from the fringes on the blog-o-sphere. Not only that, when it got out of control, McCain, in one of his finest moments, man-upped. (McCain Counters Obama 'Arab' Question - YouTube). Romney, when confronted with the same question, ignored it (a testament to his leadership nature).

This issue was the result of a Washington Post article. At this juncture, there is no evidence that the Obama campaign is behind it. Given their MO to date has not been to play in that kind of gutter... they did not do that with Hillary nor McCain in '08, and if you had a great story like this, it would be a very poor time to play that card. It is very, very unlikely this has anything to do with Obama. Moreover, when given the opportunity to deny the story, Romney did not... he affirmed it in a very vague rather pussified way that seems to be consistent with his character. Moreover, there is strong collaboration amongst other parties. In objective evidence, it appears this did indeed happen.

Again, however, my issue here is not whether or not it happened. Even if you assume it did, it was 50 years ago. I am, however, appalled at his current reaction to it.

As to distractions from the "real issues", if you don't think questions of character, particularly of an unknown challenger are 'real issues' than you have pretty low standards for the POTUS. There are lots of people with good academic ideas; others with good experience and others with good character. A qualified POTUS must have all three.
 
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