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Biden: Obama ‘has a big stick, I promise’ | The Raw Story

First ... well made point!

“Thanks to President Obama, bin Laden is dead and General Motors is alive,” Biden continued. “You have to ask yourself had Governor Romney been president, could he have used the same slogan in reverse?”

Biden was exactly right on ...with this!

Biden went on to call on the former Massachusetts governor to “tell the American people” if he wants to launch a war with Iran.

“Folks, loose talk about a war has incredible negative consequences in our efforts to end Iran’s nuclear quest,” he warned. “This kind of Romney talk is just not smart.

and then for the freakin' funny ( I get the Roosevelt reference yet ... it does sound funny!)

“I promise you, the president has a big stick,” Biden added as the audience snickered. “I promise you.”
 
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I guess I had to be there.

Oh Biden was right on ...in the first two comments.

The third ... well he was being straightforward yet I guess I saw a double entendre and thought it was funny!
 
At least he didn't say he was clean and articulate.
 
Biden makes Quail look like a genius.
 
Biden makes Quail look like a genius.
... and Romney makes Biden look like a genius!

Biden went on to call on the former Massachusetts governor to “tell the American people” if he wants to launch a war with Iran.

“Folks, loose talk about a war has incredible negative consequences in our efforts to end Iran’s nuclear quest,” he warned. “This kind of Romney talk is just not smart. Joe Biden

“Thanks to President Obama, bin Laden is dead and General Motors is alive,” Biden continued. “You have to ask yourself had Governor Romney been president, could he have used the same slogan in reverse?”
 
... and Romney makes Biden look like a genius!

I'm sure to some perhaps... but I'd guess most of them rode a short bus.
 
I'm not convinced about the OBL point though. It is possible that given the same scenario Romney would have authorized the mission.
 
I'm sure to some perhaps... but I'd guess most of them rode a short bus.

Oh Obama is definitely Biden's and Romney's intellectual superior. Biden just has the forethought to recognize it!
 
Oh Obama is definitely Biden's and Romney's intellectual superior. Biden just has the forethought to recognize it!


Your such a well behaved little talking head.
 
I'm not convinced about the OBL point though. It is possible that given the same scenario Romney would have authorized the mission.

Well it was more then authorizing ...Obama reversed the Bush mandate and reignited the hunt for Bin Laden his first days in office ... if Romney had followed Bush would have done the same?

I do believe if Romney was in office in 2008 after Bush and instead of Obama we would have continued downward economic spiral and GM would be bankrupt!

Biden was right on with his comments.

Yet ... fortunately Romney lost to McCain and McCain lost to Obama and here we are in 2012.
 
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This nicely summarizes it!

Andrew Sullivan: How Obama's Long Game Will Outsmart His Critics - The Daily Beast

Given the enormity of what he inherited, and given what he explicitly promised, it remains simply a fact that Obama has delivered in a way that the unhinged right and purist left have yet to understand or absorb. Their short-term outbursts have missed Obama’s long game—and why his reelection remains, in my view, as essential for this country’s future as his original election in 2008.
 
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This nicely summarizes it!

:roll:

I'd ask if you thought what Carter left RR was worse, but we all know the answer you'd give.
 
I'm not convinced about the OBL point though. It is possible that given the same scenario Romney would have authorized the mission.

It's all but impossible to divine what Romney's position is on Afghanistan. This guy is such a snake oil salesman it's hard to believe that anyone takes him seriously.

Romney
 
I'm not convinced about the OBL point though. It is possible that given the same scenario Romney would have authorized the mission.
You might remember that Obama made a campaign promise to go after Bin Laden if he had the intelligence. It took balls to do it because if it failed every one would blame him and he would become Jimmy Carter all over again.
 
You might remember that Obama made a campaign promise to go after Bin Laden if he had the intelligence. It took balls to do it because if it failed every one would blame him and he would become Jimmy Carter all over again.

You are right and I give Obama full props for that. It was one of the gutsier moves I have seen from a POTUS. I am just saying I can't be certain Romney wouldn't have done the same or that he might have done something different that would have had the same effect. I think Romney would make an absolutely horrible President; I am just cautious with my criticisms.
 
You might remember that Obama made a campaign promise to go after Bin Laden if he had the intelligence. It took balls to do it because if it failed every one would blame him and he would become Jimmy Carter all over again.

If the mission had failed how would you have ever known about it?
 
... and Romney makes Biden look like a genius!
What you probably don't know about Biden is that he has often plagiarised in the past... And he has a huge case of womanizing and foot in mouth syndrome... watch as he inserts it here...

From his presidential campaign in 1988



So actually... Biden made himself out to be a genius and a moron at the same time...

(again... this is the guy who moved from PA to DE to go after a Senate seat... and called Obama nice because he's clean)
 
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GM would be bankrupt!
GM did go bankrupt... But, only after taking $65B from the US taxpayers... If Romney were president, they would've gone to bankruptcy after only taking $17B from Bush... So that right there would have Romney saving Americans about $50B...

As far as the rest, there's no way to tell what a Romney administration would've been like... So speculation over it is childish (which I guess stands to reason why Biden is involved in it)...
 
If the mission had failed how would you have ever known about it?

well, did folks find out about Desert One when the hostage rescue in Iran failed?
 
This comment from Biden becomes even more commical now that all the news agencies reporting on the article and book which have just been released about it state that Biden was against the attack...

So the reality is, if Joe Biden were president Bin Laden would still be alive!
 
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