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Ted Nugent and His Death Threat Against the President of the United States

Wiggen said:
What a stupid, non-sensical post. Try keeping up with the discussion.
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Its seemed to be about the right speed to answer the crap you have been posting
 
Wiggen said:
But you're more than willing to trash his service in Vietnam, in spite of eyewitness reports to the contrary. I'd advise you to drop your feud with Doug Reese. You are't in his class.
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I suspect I am far better educated and far less enamored of a turd like Kerry who is a disgrace. He should have been brought up on charges for his consorting with the enemy and the lies he spewed in front of congress were really the pits.
 
"If Barack Obama wins in November, I will either be dead or in jail this time next year." What a pissing hunk of crap this dude is. "America will become a suburb of Indonesia." I mean, WTF? Who is this flame-bait tosser? What a jerk.
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I applaud Ted Nugent for displaying the courage to publicly articulate the risks we pose as a nation, if we are so unfortunate as to suffer the calamity of a second Barack Obama presidential term. I do not see anything in what he said as a veiled assassination threat. Nugent just as easily could be saying that he'll be dead or in jail on account of Obama's negligence as chief executive, and the attendant collapse of the country into anarchy. I share Nugent's fears. A lameduck Obama (which will be the case if he achieves re-election) would be free to pursue his destructive agenda of turning America into "a suburb of Indonesia," the great musician's euphemism for repressive third world mediocrity. We can only hope that Nugent's words will galvanize voters to end the disgraceful reign of the Manchurian.
 
Why the **** is a thread about someone as inconsequential as Ted Nugent over 60 damn pages?

This thread has wandered so far from its original topic that even the Hubble cant get a good picture of it.
 
Gimmesometruth said:
I didn't see an admission of error, I saw a conditional walking back with continuing justification of previous position held.
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Then you have poor vision. What part of "he was making a different point than I thought" is giving you trouble?



You are repeating yourself again....so I'll do the same:

Your last "point" is without real meaning, both from the standpoint that the number killed was a reference to "bloodbath"...and from the standpoint that it wasn't a guarantee of war crimes.
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And this is every bit the gibberish it was before.



You are getting yourself confused because you are parsing my comments, taking them out of context.
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Funny; that appears to be what you're doing.


The point was that the huge numbers of deaths were the "bloodbath", the original reference. Now you want to minimize the size, to deny it, first by diminishing the total size, then by dividing up the bodies. You do this all the while you maintain that your misunderstanding was a "mistake". It is funny how you keep massaging the numbers to minimize your "mistake", obviously you are trying to erase it all together...then you won't be admitting a mistake about anything.....but go on...
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Uh, no, I was accepting the point as made and then discussing it. Don't like that I don't take the 2,000,000 number at face value, especially with the implication that it was 2,000,000 civilians? Too bad.



Your original point? Your so called "admitted mistake" on what the bloodbath was?
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That Wiggen was referring to more than just the American dead.


I mean if Wiggen was referencing war crimes associated with the bloodbath in Vietnam and war crimes in Afghanistan, I do understand why you want to not talk about either the bloodbath in Vietnam, the associated war crimes there or in Afghanistan......but go ahead, you talk about what you want...I'll follow.
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There are MANY things that you apparently don't understand, so it's hardly surprising you're having this kind of trouble following points.
 
TurtleDude said:
I suspect I am far better educated and far less enamored of a turd like Kerry who is a disgrace. He should have been brought up on charges for his consorting with the enemy and the lies he spewed in front of congress were really the pits.
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Funny about those "lies" Kerry spoke of. Many of my family and neighbors, upon their return from Viet Nam in the mid to late sixties, told those same "lies" around our dinner tables when they were telling us what life was like in Viet Nam.
 
Wiggen said:
Vietnam wasn't a bloodbath? I was there. It was a bloodbath. 58,000 dead Americans and hundreds of thousands wounded. 2 million Vietnames dead. You shouldn't shoot your mouth off about subjects you know nothing about.
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No, I do know what I'm talking about, and the 58,000 number is part of it.

It was the lowest-casualty war we had ever had up until that point on a day-to-day basis, by far. 97% of American troops came home alive.

As for the 2,000,000, as I said, credible counts say that number is inflated by quite a bit, and in pretty much every estimation, at least half of the total Vietnamese dead were represented by NVA casualties, whose chief battle strategy tended to be running into our guns in large numbers.

It's true that if you're referring to total casualties rather than just American dead, you're talking about something different than what I thought, and I already said as much.

As for "war crimes" and "blood baths," total casualties in Korea, particularly among civilians, were much higher for a much shorter war, yet no one's going off about "war crimes" in that theater. It takes more than simply numbers to establish them, as I've been saying all along.

Yes, things happened in Vietnam, such as My Lai, but the number of casualties is in and of itself not evidence of it.
 
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TurtleDude said:
I suspect I am far better educated and far less enamored of a turd like Kerry who is a disgrace. .
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Then put your name out there and live with the scrutiny people like that have to instead of hiding behind a nome de plume if you are so much better.
 
Oh my goodness, Ted would waste you dumbass....I havn't laughed soo hard in years.....Worthless liberals everywhere,it's what is wrong with this country!
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This total loser slithered his way off his insanely terminal rock dust music career, and brought his completely delusional antics into the political arena via another NRA convention. He also has given Mitt Romney, his obvious endorsement along with Kid Rock. I think it was Mitt Romney's son who tweeted to his father about how fortunate they were to have been endorsed by Ted Nugent.

So, here are my questions:

1)

At what point does Mitt Romney, after publicly agreeing with his own son that the endorsement from Ted Nugent, was a good thing, at least acknowledge that what Ted Nugent, said at the NRA convention was a bad thing for the country as a whole?


2)

Is it now "ok" for Democrats to make the assertion that Mitt Romney, is happy to have the support of potential Presidential Assassins, if he (Mitt) fails to go public with some kind of statement that acknowledges what Ted Nugent, has stated is just a whisker short of a threat of violence against the President of the United States?

Lastly, I'd really like to get tough guys like Ted Nugent, on a football field - so we could find where the real "punks" like to hang out. I've always looked at football, as the great equalizer and a real genuine Punk Detector. Ted Nugent, likes to call people a "punk," when he does not approve of them.

I'll put this call to action out to Ted Nugent, that anytime he so desires, he can meet me man-to-man on the 50 yard line of any football field of his choice. And, we will learn on that day, what a real genuine "punk" looks like from the inside out.

Football is a great way to find out where the real tough guys live, Mr. Ted "ToughGuy" Nugent.
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