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take off your blinds ron paul is still in the race.with the msm blessings or not.

Fubar said:
stadium speeches of mitt vs paul. what do u think?

Ron Paul California Rally UCLA Amazing!!! - YouTube

During Mitt Romney's DEC Speech, CSPAN Pans The 65K Empty Seats at Ford Field - YouTube

truth is people,especially young people,are waking up to the charade.the circus has been in town for far too long.it's time.
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Being a Paulite doesn't make you enlightened. I've met both moronic Paul supporters and intelligent Paul supporters. Either way though, this isn't evidence of anything. He's too far back in the delegate race to do anything significant.
 
You gotta love it when people call Ron Paul's views not sane when Mitt Romney believes Americas God ordained destiny is to be the world leader. Yea that sounds sane.

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Chaddelamancha said:
You gotta love it when people call Ron Paul's views not sane when Mitt Romney believes Americas God ordained destiny is to be the world leader. Yea that sounds sane.

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Wait, where did Romney actually say this?
 
Dear Ron Paul H8rs,

While I agree many of his ideas are whacked, you look completely moronic bashing the guy considering how badly your people have ****ed over this country for generations to come. When your grandchildren are pissing on your grave, it wont be Ron Pauls name they are cursing.
 
VanceMack said:
Dear Ron Paul H8rs,

While I agree many of his ideas are whacked, you look completely moronic bashing the guy considering how badly your people have ****ed over this country for generations to come. When your grandchildren are pissing on your grave, it wont be Ron Pauls name they are cursing.
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the "grandchildren" in the multiple warring republics that are going to split off from the US are going to be pissing on the open border free trade globalist graves.
 
Chaddelamancha said:
You gotta love it when people call Ron Paul's views not sane when Mitt Romney believes Americas God ordained destiny is to be the world leader. Yea that sounds sane.
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Why would you assume that if someone bashes Ron Paul that they are a Romney'ite?
 
Matt Foley said:
the "grandchildren" in the multiple warring republics that are going to split off from the US are going to be pissing on the open border free trade globalist graves.
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Really? Thats comical. So...Syria's grandchildren are going to piss on Obamas grave because even though he declared in Libya's case that America wouldnt stand by and watched while a brutal dictator murdered his own people APPARENTLY he hasnt been getting the memo's on what is going on there.
AMERICAS grandchildren however are going to be saddled with a mountain of debt thanks to both major political parties. That democrat and republican supporters trash Ron Paul, considering the morons dem and GOP supporters continually send back to congress, is pretty ****ing stupid.
 
Cool he made a good speech.
Still no chance
 
You know who else young people love? Betty White. Sometimes I think they just get a kick out of old people with attitude.
 
The internet and young people are consumed with Ron Paul, and the only ones who care are the internet and the young. Well, that and the 9/11 truthers.
 
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This thread reminds me of the shock I felt when Gene McCarthy was not elected. After all, everyone I knew voted for him.
 
Pat Buchanan got 3 times more votes in the Republican Primary in 1996 than Ron Paul got in Republican Primaries in 2008.

Ross Perot got 20 times more votes than Ron Paul got.

What do Pat Buchanan and Ross Perot have in common? They are anti-globalist nationalists whereas Ron Paul is an ultra-globalist as all Libertarians are.
 
Matt Foley said:
the "grandchildren" in the multiple warring republics that are going to split off from the US...



You truly are a globalist.
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Yeah...considering the ailments the US has.,..your choice is ****ing brilliant. THATS our most pressing concern. And your elected officials are freakin rockstars, baby.
 
Matt Foley said:
Why would you assume that if someone bashes Ron Paul that they are a Romney'ite?
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Didn't. But if we are talking about crazy ideas, Romney certainly has them.

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AreteCourage said:
I've heard this argument too many times. Explain how he is "nutjob." I'll gladly take you on in this issue because a lot of perception of Ron Paul is completely false. Do you understand his policies? Have you ever truly and unbiasedly researched his views?
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Unbiased research? I think going into anything without questioning extreme claims is ludicrous. If you want to call my skepticism and critical examination of his policies 'biased research' then go ahead, but it doesn't remove the facts that a lot of his policies are nuts.

But if you want examples of his nutjob policies, I can give you plenty of examples. He wants to cut $1 trillion in one year. He wants a return to the gold standard. He thinks state governments have the right to legislate what goes on in one's bedroom. Absolute trust in the free market. Complete isolationism. The list can go on.

He is admirable for a few reasons. He is consistent. He attempts to attack actual problems as opposed to pushing politics as normal. He is in touch with his base. However, the positives cannot outweigh the fact he is consistently wrong.
 
Ron Paul's views are alluring to simple people who want to believe that every problem has a simple solution...and that it is the SAME solution to ALL problems (i.e. get the government out of the way). But in reality, the world is far more complex than that. Shrieking "let the free market decide!" as a stock response to ANY political issue is about as anti-intellectual as one can possibly be, and when Ron Paul fans tell everyone else to "wake up" they usually don't even realize that (in most cases) they themselves have adopted an entire ideology as an article of faith. Religious fundamentalism is ugly in all of its forms, regardless of whether the sacred text in question is The Bible, Das Kapital, Atlas Shrugged, The Wealth of Nations, or The US Constitution.
 
VanceMack said:
Dear Ron Paul H8rs,

While I agree many of his ideas are whacked, you look completely moronic bashing the guy considering how badly your people have ****ed over this country for generations to come. When your grandchildren are pissing on your grave, it wont be Ron Pauls name they are cursing.
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NAKED N00B said:
Unbiased research? I think going into anything without questioning extreme claims is ludicrous. If you want to call my skepticism and critical examination of his policies 'biased research' then go ahead, but it doesn't remove the facts that a lot of his policies are nuts.

But if you want examples of his nutjob policies, I can give you plenty of examples. He wants to cut $1 trillion in one year. He wants a return to the gold standard. He thinks state governments have the right to legislate what goes on in one's bedroom. Absolute trust in the free market. Complete isolationism. The list can go on.

He is admirable for a few reasons. He is consistent. He attempts to attack actual problems as opposed to pushing politics as normal. He is in touch with his base. However, the positives cannot outweigh the fact he is consistently

wrong.
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The mere words u use tell me u know of ron Paul only from the media clowns.try to think for yourself,without TV circus.you might discover something.
 
TheNextEra said:
The main problem is Ron Paul wants a lot of change quickly. While that appeals to some younger adults, the one thing politics has taught me is that the majoirty of people do not want a lot of change quickly.
So for the majority of people, they don't like Ron Paul's quick change ideas.
If you really want something to change, it has to be gradual or you will be in a fight for quick change.
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As a Paul supporter myself, I must reluctantly agree to your assessment here, TheNextEra. The only problem is that we've now reached a point in the development of our society where we've been heading toward the cliff of economic collapse and fascism so fast for so long that gradual change is no longer possible. We are going to accept Ron Paul style change (admittedly unlikely, although I would fervently like to believe so), or a complete monetary collapse through hyperinflation and a rapid descent into totalitarianism, which as I type this is well under way. As has been pointed out in this thread already by others, many of Paul's goals would be unattainable as quickly as he (and I) would like, but some things could certainly change immediately. Perhaps we could scale back our warmongering tendencies and develop some international respect once again. Who, besides the dictators that we prop up with our billions, respects Americans anymore? But even more importantly, to me, is that he would immediately scale back the Federal Governments assault on freedom in America. The TSA is a perfect example of government gone completely out of control, now wanting to set up airport style checkpoints in bus terminals and train stations and even freeways. This country is turning into Nazi Germany at an absolutely alarming rate, thanks to Bush's fascist and warmongering policies, every one of which has been continued and embraced by Obama. Romney, were he to be elected, would change nothing. The spending would continue apace and the attacks on our freedoms would also continue. If we cannot, as a populace, wake up to these facts, change will come rapidly whether we want it to or not.
 
Kandahar said:
Ron Paul's views are alluring to simple people who want to believe that every problem has a simple solution...and that it is the SAME solution to ALL problems (i.e. get the government out of the way). But in reality, the world is far more complex than that. Shrieking "let the free market decide!" as a stock response to ANY political issue is about as anti-intellectual as one can possibly be, and when Ron Paul fans tell everyone else to "wake up" they usually don't even realize that (in most cases) they themselves have adopted an entire ideology as an article of faith. Religious fundamentalism is ugly in all of its forms, regardless of whether the sacred text in question is The Bible, Das Kapital, Atlas Shrugged, The Wealth of Nations, or The US Constitution.
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With all due respect sir,worshipping intellectuals got us in this mess in the first place.as far as addopting ideology.....one of my earlier posts covers that.again to much tv.,too little thinking.intellectuals make thousands of new laws of hundreds of pages each every year and then laugh arrogantly at simple ron Paul when he tells them the economy will tank years in advance.when intellectuals rule simple people suffer.
 
Fubar said:
With all due respect sir,worshipping intellectuals got us in this mess in the first place.as far as addopting ideology.....one of my earlier posts covers that.again to much tv.,too little thinking.intellectuals make thousands of new laws of hundreds of pages each every year and then laugh arrogantly at simple ron Paul when he tells them the economy will tank years in advance.when intellectuals rule simple people suffer.
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Which is carte blanche for you to just dismiss any criticism of his policies. You aren't even making an argument here, you're just plugging your ears and saying LA LA LA. How about instead of just making vague accusations, you demonstrate how any particular law has helped to get us "in this mess."
 
Deuce said:
Which is carte blanche for you to just dismiss any criticism of his policies. You aren't even making an argument here, you're just plugging your ears and saying LA LA LA. How about instead of just making vague accusations, you demonstrate how any particular law has helped to get us "in this mess."
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Please read my other posts on this tread and my agreement with criticism of policies of ron Paul.research first then admonish.damn.how many times I have to say this?
 
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