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Rick Santorum Drops Out: GOP Presidential Candidate Suspends Campaigns

Redress said:
You have any evidence of this?
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If anything I am assuming it would have to do with paying down campaign debt, which is certainly not unheard of nor a bad thing at all.
 
Tigger said:
Yes. I also think you'll see one of the lowest (percentage) turnouts in the history of US Presidential elections.
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With social data, that usually implies a relative amount of satisfaction with either party. Knowing you, on the other hand, it would mean that people forfeit the vote because they do not buy into it. I have yet to see that argument actually make sense.
 
Tigger said:
Especially not after seeing his four year "reign" here in Massachusetts.
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Would you elaborate? I've read from a couple of other right-leaning Bay Staters on here and they had favorable responses to Romney's third term.

Tigger said:
NOPE. Not a chance. This may just come close to matching the political pounding that Reagan put on Mondale.
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Not from an Electoral College standpoint, at least...red states are getting redder and blue states bluer right now. There's no way I see a Kansas, Alabama, or Idaho voting for Obama or a New York, Rhode Island, or Maryland voting for Romney. I think ~300 EV's is the best case scenario for either party right now, the GOP maybe 280 depending on the importance of the Hispanic vote in certain states.

00timh said:
Obama is not well liked
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In comparison to Romney? This election shouldn't come down to the 'who do I want to have a beer with: decision-making of a 16-year-old' logic but if it does, that's not helpful to Mitt Romney. He doesn't drink.
 
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Top Cat said:
Rick Santorum Drops Out: GOP Presidential Candidate Suspends 2012 Campaign (LIVE VIDEO)

In a surprise decision Tuesday, former Sen. Rick Santorum (R-Pa.) will announce that he is suspending his presidential campaign, The Huffington Post's Jon Ward has learned and several other outlets have reported.​


Don't let the door hit ya where the good Lord split ya!
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The guy is about to get clobbered in his home state. There's no way he could spin that positively.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
And I would never vote for him, but for the record, I wish his daughter the best of luck in her recovery.
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That's just it: She's not going to recover.
 
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Wiggen said:
The guy is about to get clobbered in his home state. There's no way he could spin that positively.
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Santorum said his ailing 3-year-old daughter's hospitalization over the weekend became “a time for prayer and thought”, which caused him and his wife to think about “the role we have as parents in her life.” Polls show him with a tiny lead over Mitt Romney in Pennsylvania.
 
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GoTim1985 said:
Would you elaborate? I've read from a couple of other right-leaning Bay Staters on here and they had favorable responses to Romney's third term.


Not from an Electoral College standpoint, at least...red states are getting redder and blue states bluer right now. There's no way I see a Kansas, Alabama, or Idaho voting for Obama or a New York, Rhode Island, or Maryland voting for Romney. I think ~300 EV's is the best case scenario for either party right now, the GOP maybe 280 depending on the importance of the Hispanic vote in certain states.


In comparison to Romney? This election shouldn't come down to the 'who do I want to have a beer with: decision-making of a 16-year-old' logic but if it does, that's not helpful to Mitt Romney. He doesn't drink.
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I don't just mean personable liking, I am referring to job rating.
 
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Wiggen said:
The guy is about to get clobbered in his home state. There's no way he could spin that positively.
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although I wonder if he would have stayed in if he was tied or leading the race, but with very little chance of him winning the nom, attending to his ailing daughter obviously becomes his priority.
 
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ThirdTerm said:
Santorum said his ailing 3-year-old daughter's hospitalization over the weekend became “a time for prayer and thought”, which caused him and his wife to think about “the role we have as parents in her life.” Polls show him with a tiny lead over Mitt Romney in Pennsylvania.
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Well, "ailing" is a euphemism for "dying."
 
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Too bad, I was enjoying the freak show.

If Santorum dropping out causes any 'conservatives' to not vote, so much the better and so pu**y the 'conservative'. But I'll bet you a shiny nickle those all butthurt now will pull the Mitt lever come November.

Rick never stood a chance and only the hair brained antics of the anyone but Mitt crowd kept the Greek Tragedy parade of terribly flawed 'candidates' strutting their 5 minutes across the stage behind a porcelain mask.

Any bets on how fast Mitt runs back to the center????
 
GoTim1985 said:
His job rating number isn't going to be of any help to Mitt Romney unless it falls below 40%.
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I wouldn't say that 40% is an auto benchmark... certainly if it goes below that Obama is in serious trouble. I would think that any number below 50 is serious cause for concern. With food and fuel prices being what they are, it will be hard for Obama to get his JR up and is likely to go down.
 
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notquiteright said:
Too bad, I was enjoying the freak show.

If Santorum dropping out causes any 'conservatives' to not vote, so much the better and so pu**y the 'conservative'. But I'll bet you a shiny nickle those all butthurt now will pull the Mitt lever come November.

Rick never stood a chance and only the hair brained antics of the anyone but Mitt crowd kept the Greek Tragedy parade of terribly flawed 'candidates' strutting their 5 minutes across the stage behind a porcelain mask.

Any bets on how fast Mitt runs back to the center????
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As a republican in the primary, he is already farther left than most ever run. That will be a concern obviously for the devout conservatives such as myself. And yeah, many of us are not afraid to pull the lever for a 3rd party or not pull one at all. Romney winning will depend on how many of the swing voters swing his way, which will offset the conservatives who will choose not to vote for a liberal.
 
00timh said:
I wouldn't say that 40% is an auto benchmark... certainly if it goes below that Obama is in serious trouble. I would think that any number below 50 is serious cause for concern. With food and fuel prices being what they are, it will be hard for Obama to get his JR up and is likely to go down.
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Obviously any number below 50% is of concern but I don't think there's enough information to say whether it is likely to go up or down at this time, especially not off of this poll because there are many voter-wide responses that are extremely contradictory to the poll result.

P.S. I'm also a Tim H....good name.:)
 
Back when I was a young June Bug Republicans ran and WON by being centrists, moderates, not hard right, radical right, religious right, etc.

They promoted the EPA, Earth Day, warned about the military gaining too much influence...

Those were the days my friends, we thought they'd never end....

Damn I must be old
 
Fiddytree said:
That unnamed Senator was more for the purposes of being funny than taking it seriously. You may be the only person that would share such sentiments.

I am politically expedient enough in that I am willing to compromise on some grounds in order to get the whole of what I agree, or a perceived improvement. I think it is the most effective route in democratic politics.
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It sounds like you're compromising on all the grounds! With someone like Romney, If I was going to vote, why WOULDN'T I vote for Obama? As a conservative, Obama is slightly more right-wing than Romney is, so WHAT IS THE ****ING POINT?
 
What happened to all of Santorum's pomises that he would stay on until the Convention and that his campaign was expecting big things from Pennsylvania and Texas?

What happened to his assertion that Romney was the worst presidential candidate to represent the Republican Party in the fall?

Either this was all a lie, or wose yet, he has accepted a backroom political deal!
 
00timh said:
It will be close. Reagan was a popular POTUS running against the VP of an unpopular POTUS whom he had beaten soundly. Mondale was just a sacrifice for the party to put up a candidate. Obama is not well liked and has not had a good presidency. His signature health care has been a disaster and is not well liked. Add on a flailing ecomony that is likely to go back into recession by the summer if gasoline remains high or god forbid goes even higher.
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Obama may not be well liked, but his base will show up and vote. He'll draw at least as much of the centrist/spineless crowd as Romney, and that centrist crew is ALL that Romney will draw. You could see the best showing in history for third party candidates this year.

00timh said:
I would not predict a Romney win, but I doubt there is a single liberal pundit or politician who would be surprised if Obama were to lose. Also though, I don't think there is a conservative pundit or politician who would be surprised by a romney loss either.
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I would be SHOCKED if Obama doesn't win by double digits (percentagewise).


Fiddytree said:
That unnamed Senator was more for the purposes of being funny than taking it seriously. You may be the only person that would share such sentiments.
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Being RIGHT doesn't necessarily mean being in the Majority.

Fiddytree said:
I am politically expedient enough in that I am willing to compromise on some grounds in order to get the whole of what I agree, or a perceived improvement. I think it is the most effective route in democratic politics.
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Yep. Expedience over Principles. Please excuse me while I go puke.


Fiddytree said:
With social data, that usually implies a relative amount of satisfaction with either party. Knowing you, on the other hand, it would mean that people forfeit the vote because they do not buy into it. I have yet to see that argument actually make sense.
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There really isn't much satisfaction with either party right now. The Right Wing now has NO REASON WHATSOEVER to come to the polls in November. Much of the Left wing will realize their guy is a sure winner and stay home as well.


GoTim1985 said:
Would you elaborate? I've read from a couple of other right-leaning Bay Staters on here and they had favorable responses to Romney's third term.
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When he came into office this was a Leftist State. When he LEFT office it was a FAR Leftist State.... socialized medicine, gay marriage, no reduction in the taxes that wasn't offset by a MASSIVE increase in fees (my CCW went from $35 to $100). Most "Republicans" in Massachusetts would be hard-core Democrats anywhere outside of New England.

GoTim1985 said:
Not from an Electoral College standpoint, at least...red states are getting redder and blue states bluer right now. There's no way I see a Kansas, Alabama, or Idaho voting for Obama or a New York, Rhode Island, or Maryland voting for Romney. I think ~300 EV's is the best case scenario for either party right now, the GOP maybe 280 depending on the importance of the Hispanic vote in certain states.
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I get the feeling you're going to be very surprised to see the LACK of Republican votes this fall. Obama may not get many more votes, but the Republican candidate will probably get 10% less votes than his 2008 counterpart.
 
Tigger said:
I get the feeling you're going to be very surprised to see the LACK of Republican votes this fall. Obama may not get many more votes, but the Republican candidate will probably get 10% less votes than his 2008 counterpart.
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I wouldn't be shocked...this election definitely isn't as energizing as 2008.
 
notquiteright said:
Back when I was a young June Bug Republicans ran and WON by being centrists, moderates, not hard right, radical right, religious right, etc.

They promoted the EPA, Earth Day, warned about the military gaining too much influence...

Those were the days my friends, we thought they'd never end....

Damn I must be old
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When all you knew politically for 40 years was that you were going to have to work with, get along, and get things passed through a Democratic controlled legislature you tended to have to act moderate, centrist, and bend/compromise often on Principle.

Strangely, apparently a number of those that lean left seem to have not realized that it's not JUST the Republican lean that has changed over the past 20 years. The entire political landscape has shifted and is largely responsible FOR that shift in Republicans. Since the late 80's and especially 1994, suddenly the notion that Republican's in Congress or in the white house will HAVE to work with Democrats and bend on principle to get anything done went out the window as there's been legitimate reason to believe there are actual possibilities to WIN in congress...something that likely existed as much as unicorns and leprechauns at the point when you were a kid.
 
jgarden47 said:
Either this was all a lie, or wose yet, he has accepted a backroom political deal!
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Or his youngest daughter is possibly weeks away from death and he feels there's some things in life more important.

That is at the very least a legitimate possibility and is hardly a "back room political deal" nor a lie...unless you think he was fully expecting severe health issues popping up right now in a family member.
 
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