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Another open mike issue...will they never learn??

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SAN DIEGO, Ca. – Mitt Romney seized on President Obama’s remarks to Russian President Dmitri Medvedev during which he was caught over an open microphone saying that he would have more “flexibility” after the upcoming election, dubbing the conversation “alarming” and “troubling.”

President Obama, who was visiting with Medvedev Monday in South Korea during an international summit on nuclear weapons, was talking about the need for incoming Russian President Vladimir Putin to give him “space” when it comes to missile defense when he told Medvedev, “This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility.”
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Romney Seizes on Obama’s Open Mic Moment - ABC News

Wow, I wonder what he has in store for the American people after his re-election?
 
Pilates?

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I don't get it. What's so bad about what he said?
 
If you read the full transcript then you would know its really not that big of a deal. Basically, neither of them want to be seen as disarming Durning an election, but that's the ultimate goal, and a smart one IMO

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When you think about it, what Obama said is pretty blatantly obvious.

a) He'll have more time after the election when he's not trying to run a full-time campaign while being President

b) He won't have to worry about getting hammered in the polls

In essence what I heard him say was, "Tell your boss to call me when this is done, and I can actually take his call."
 
If the etch-a-sketch issue is supposedly a big deal... then this is bigger...

the etch-a-sketch was a campaign advisor saying their relationship with conservatives will be anewed during the general election...

this is a quote directly attributable to the president, and was done off mic, purposely... because he is saying one thing in public and doing another... it basically proves that he is not going to be the person he respresents himself as during the election process... in other words... the person you think you're voting for is not who will be the one governing... it'll be the one who is willing to do all sorts of things without concern about how the public feels about it...

this was supposed to be the president of transparency... hopefully that means everyone can see through the lies now...
 
IndepCentristMA said:
If the etch-a-sketch issue is supposedly a big deal... then this is bigger...

the etch-a-sketch was a campaign advisor saying their relationship with conservatives will be anewed during the general election...

this is a quote directly attributable to the president, and was done off mic, purposely... because he is saying one thing in public and doing another... it basically proves that he is not going to be the person he respresents himself as during the election process... in other words... the person you think you're voting for is not who will be the one governing... it'll be the one who is willing to do all sorts of things without concern about how the public feels about it...

this was supposed to be the president of transparency... hopefully that means everyone can see through the lies now...
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What lies? This is exactly what people expect of Obama, to negotiate with the further super power to disarm and reduce useless weapon programs that are seen as a threat to a non-hostile nation. All this gaff boils down to is "let's talk about this later"


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xpiher said:
If you read the full transcript then you would know its really not that big of a deal. Basically, neither of them want to be seen as disarming Durning an election, but that's the ultimate goal, and a smart one IMO

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From what I can find in articles, it's about a European missile shield. It's supposed to protect against Iran. Do you have the full transcript to show where they were talking about disarming?
 
IndepCentristMA said:
If the etch-a-sketch issue is supposedly a big deal... then this is bigger...

the etch-a-sketch was a campaign advisor saying their relationship with conservatives will be anewed during the general election...

this is a quote directly attributable to the president, and was done off mic, purposely... because he is saying one thing in public and doing another... it basically proves that he is not going to be the person he respresents himself as during the election process... in other words... the person you think you're voting for is not who will be the one governing... it'll be the one who is willing to do all sorts of things without concern about how the public feels about it...

this was supposed to be the president of transparency... hopefully that means everyone can see through the lies now...
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Do you really think so? I guarantee you that no one will remember Obama's comment three days from now, but etch-a-sketch will dog Romney until November.
 
Republic Now! said:
From what I can find in articles, it's about a European missile shield. It's supposed to protect against Iran. Do you have the full transcript to show where they were talking about disarming?
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A missle shield not being built is disarming, but I can see why my comment made you think I was taking about something else. The problem Russia had with it us the missile locations and possibility of it being used offensively and neither party wants to seek weak during an election

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AdamT said:
Do you really think so? I guarantee you that no one will remember Obama's comment three days from now, but etch-a-sketch will dog Romney until November.
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The all inclusive statement "no one". I'll take your bet. I will remember it a great deal more than the etch-a-sketch comment.
You are partially correct. Some people a few days from now will care less what President Obama said during an open mike. As some will care less about Romney comment.
Yet there are those that will remember. I bet I know which one you will.
 
mike2810 said:
The all inclusive statement "no one". I'll take your bet. I will remember it a great deal more than the etch-a-sketch comment.
You are partially correct. Some people a few days from now will care less what President Obama said during an open mike. As some will care less about Romney comment.
Yet there are those that will remember. I bet I know which one you will.
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I was speaking figuratively, of course. :lol:

Etch-a-sketch is memorable because it's such a well known visual, and because the metaphor ties in so tightly with Romney's core ... or lack thereof ... problem.
 
IndepCentristMA said:
If the etch-a-sketch issue is supposedly a big deal... then this is bigger...

the etch-a-sketch was a campaign advisor saying their relationship with conservatives will be anewed during the general election...

this is a quote directly attributable to the president, and was done off mic, purposely... because he is saying one thing in public and doing another... it basically proves that he is not going to be the person he respresents himself as during the election process... in other words... the person you think you're voting for is not who will be the one governing... it'll be the one who is willing to do all sorts of things without concern about how the public feels about it...

this was supposed to be the president of transparency... hopefully that means everyone can see through the lies now...
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The etch-a-sketch was an emperor has no clothes moment, as was this. Hard to get excited by what is patently obvious....

"Rick: How can you close me up? On what grounds?
Captain Renault: I'm shocked, shocked to find that gambling is going on in here!
[a croupier hands Renault a pile of money]
Croupier: Your winnings, sir.
Captain Renault: [sotto voce] Oh, thank you very much.
[aloud]
Captain Renault: Everybody out at once! "
 
Enola said:
I don't get it. What's so bad about what he said?
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I really shouldn't have to be saying this....

What part of running for office under deceptive premises to achieve a high-office under a false pro-American Agenda to then betray that office by implementing an Anti-American Policy don't you get?

In the fictional version of the Manchurian Candidate, the operative had to HIDE is true agenda to succeed.

In the bizarre Twilight Zone version of the Obama-nation, it seems that requirement is somehow gone; Go Figure?
 
MaggieD said:
Perhaps women and men should be doing kegals...looks like we all might be ****ed.




Maggie!!!! You did NOT say that!
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Must have been a very good bottle of wine. ;)
 
did romney mess up again????

quick someone give him a few shakes and lets see if he gets any better.
 
I fail to see the big deal on this one.

1) He can't make unpopular promises right now, right in the middle of an election campaign.

2) His presumption that he will be re-elected is probably spot on... given who the Reps are choosing to throw against him.

3) Romney, for all his criticism, would have probably said the same thing in the same situation.
 
xpiher said:
If you read the full transcript then you would know its really not that big of a deal. Basically, neither of them want to be seen as disarming Durning an election, but that's the ultimate goal, and a smart one IMO

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Yeah, because the people don't want it. So they have to do it steathily, against the will of the people. No, nothing wrong with that. :roll:
 
In a nutshell, its Obama asking Putin not to publicly piss and moan about the missile defense shield in Poland until after the election, at which point Obama will gladly take it down since he's a lame duck.
 
rocket88 said:
When you think about it, what Obama said is pretty blatantly obvious.

a) He'll have more time after the election when he's not trying to run a full-time campaign while being President

b) He won't have to worry about getting hammered in the polls

In essence what I heard him say was, "Tell your boss to call me when this is done, and I can actually take his call."
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No, what he said was that after the election, nothing can stop him from getting rid of almost all of our nukes. That's what he meant, the socialist son of a bitch.
 
American said:
Yeah, because the people don't want it. So they have to do it steathily, against the will of the people. No, nothing wrong with that. :roll:
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Maybe conservatives don't want it but they aren't the majority.

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American said:
No, what he said was that after the election, nothing can stop him from getting rid of almost all of our nukes. That's what he meant, the socialist son of a bitch.
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They weren't taking about nukes :banghead::banghead:

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rocket88 said:
When you think about it, what Obama said is pretty blatantly obvious.
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It is obvious. However, the problem is this.

Some Republicans have been saying for some time now that "We must defeat Obama because if given a 2nd term he won't have the confines of re-election hampering him and he will go even farther to the left".

You then have some Democrats responding with "Obama is a moderate, look at how he's governed, he's not an ideologue and its just fearmongering of republicans trying to say he's anything but."

Making comments like this gives power and backing to the notion that the Republicans are pushing that Obama, after reelection, would veer farther left then he did during his first term. While that may be "obvious" to the objective observer that knows politics in general and honestly looks at his thoughts and record prior to his position on the Presidency, to the general public or to those on the left who view things only through a lens of what is best for their argument it's not so obvious.

There's nothing inherently wrong with the notion. It's a reasonable one to have. The issue however is what it represents in terms of the political ramifications.
 
American said:
Yeah, because the people don't want it. So they have to do it steathily, against the will of the people.
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No one said anything about doing it against the will of the people, or doing it without anyone knowing about it. You only think of that because you're paranoid.
 
Yeah, it's just wrong to suggest that one might consider politics during an election. Oops!

One of the things I found in a short campaign against Ted Kennedy was that when I said, for instance, that I wanted to eliminate the Department of Education, that was used to suggest I don’t care about education,” Romney recalled. “So I think it’s important for me to point out that I anticipate that there will be departments and agencies that will either be eliminated or combined with other agencies. So for instance, I anticipate that housing vouchers will be turned over to the states rather than be administered at the federal level, and so at this point I think of the programs to be eliminated or to be returned to the states, and we’ll see what consolidation opportunities exist as a result of those program eliminations. So will there be some that get eliminated or combined? The answer is yes, but I’m not going to give you a list right now.

Mitt: I Won
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