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Obamaville

Yeah, I suppose as a student you haven't gotten to the depression and the Hoovervilles yet. As I said, I prefer to pre-empt idiotic exchanges and someone who denies that equating Obama to food stamps and blames Reagan and Bush for Obama's failures is a sure harbinger of just that. Study history then and get back to me when you think you're ready. I doubt I'll still be around by that time, but you never know.

Ciao

(chuckle) You assume I knew nothing about history to begin with, so that's why I chose it as a field of study . . . I think you're meeting your match, and you can't hack. I've already informed you that food stamps go back to 1939; something that is very easily verified: my material comes mostly from my encyclopedia of American History anad other educational material that I have collected over many years.

And BTW, Reagan and Bush + Bush a rehte ones responsible for the country's failures both domestic and abroad, and that record has been made very clear by so many sources, that you; who's smarter than me . . . should know that already.

So, thrall me with your historical expertise now.
 
You do know that once you dare disagree with Republicanism, you aren't a centrist right? He's not one who believes in the center, only right and left, which also means right and wrong.

Reagan and the Bushes weren't nearly as laissez-faire as Herbert Hoover was. In fact, W's "laissez-faireness" was pretty much blown out of the water with the bailout.

Where do you find that I've disagreed with Republicanism? I disagree vehemently with the right-wing however; I think that the ideal of both Republican and Domocratic platforms are the answer, not the extreme's.

Reagan and Bush belived so much in laize-faire that they created an environment to support it. And as you may recall, Bush didn't want to bail out the banks, his own people pressured him into it.

As for Hoover of course, once his laize-faire failed, he did what Bush'e people did: ask for bailouts, and tried to do what FDR did, and Obama is doing now:

Herbert Hoover (president of United States) -- Britannica Online Encyclopedia

During the 1928 presidential campaign, Hoover said, “We are nearer today to the ideal of the abolition of poverty and fear from the lives of men and women than ever before in any land.” One year later the Stock Market Crash of 1929 plunged the country into the worst economic collapse in its history. President Hoover parted ways with those leaders of the Republican Party—including Secretary of the Treasury Andrew Mellon—who believed there was nothing for the government to do but wait for the next phase of the business cycle. Hoover took prompt action. He called business leaders to the White House to urge them not to lay off workers or cut wages. He urged state and local governments to join private charities in caring for Americans made destitute by the Depression. He asked Congress to appropriate money for public-works projects to expand government employment.

Demands rose for greater government action, especially direct relief payments to the most impoverished of the millions of unemployed. (Just like today)

So, I'm afraid that your assessment doesn't hit the mark.
 
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