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Romney to eliminate Planned Parenthood

Never change? :lol: Their raw numbers are going to be different every year.

now you are just being silly, show me where i said the raw numbers wont change? thats right i didnt LMAO :lamo

the fact remains:
3% does not define an organization no matter how hard you try. :2rofll:

more egg on your face :hitsfan:
 
Incidentally, it's not just one year's numbers with a disturbing trend in terms of their services for pregnant women.

Even as the recent annual estimated abortions are dropping somewhat, Planned Parenthood's numbers show a trend of increasing, while their numbers for prenatal care and adoption referrals, meager though they may be, are dropping.
 
Incidentally, it's not just one year's numbers with a disturbing trend in terms of their services for pregnant women.

Even as the recent annual estimated abortions are dropping somewhat, Planned Parenthood's numbers show a trend of increasing, while their numbers for prenatal care and adoption referrals, meager though they may be, are dropping.

It still doesn't change the fact that abortions are far far lower (less than 5% even using a liberal number), compared with everything else they do.

even 5% of what an organization provides, does not define them.
 
now you are just being silly, show me where i said the raw numbers wont change? thats right i didnt LMAO :lamo

TNE said: "...the FACT that abortions are only 3% of ALL of the services they provide."

yep this fact will never change.

You said the fact WILL NEVER CHANGE. Every year that fact will change, because the raw numbers will change.


Basically, pal... :screwy
 
TNE said: "...the FACT that abortions are only 3% of ALL of the services they provide."



You said the fact WILL NEVER CHANGE. Every year that fact will change, because the raw numbers will change.


Basically, pal... :screwy

nope you guessed wrong and ASSumed wrong like usual LMAO

what he actually said was "3% does not define an organization no matter how hard you try."

and I agreed that fact will never change :)

nice try but you fail just like you have been for pages and pages, please keep going though because this is hilarious, its very entertaining watching your you lie and make stuff up :popcorn2:
 
Incidentally, it's not just one year's numbers with a disturbing trend in terms of their services for pregnant women.

Even as the recent annual estimated abortions are dropping somewhat, Planned Parenthood's numbers show a trend of increasing, while their numbers for prenatal care and adoption referrals, meager though they may be, are dropping.

This is a remarkably disingenuous picture you've painted. PP does a lot more than abortions, adoption referrals and prenatal care. Here's a short list:

STI Tests (for women and men)
HPV Treatments
HIV tests
Female sterilization procedures
emergency contraception services
vasectomy's
Pap Tests
Breast Exams

These things (and other types of tests and procedures that are harder to spell), collectively, make up the bulk of what PP does.

While I'm at it, are you ever going to respond to my response to your bull**** assertions about the Constitution back on approximately page 9?
 
So like I said, it would be nice if pro-abortion folks weren't intellectually dishonest and could be rational, but as evidenced above, that's rare.

Pro-abortion people are very rare too.
Most of the pro-choice people I know would only choose abortion in extreme cases such as incest, rape, life of the mother, or if the fetus were so malformed it would only live a few minutes or hours.
Most pro-choice people, however, will leave the choice of an abortion or no abortion up to the pregnant woman and her doctor.
We do not know all there is to know about the woman's health , her state of mind, her emotions, her financial status, or her ability to care for a child.

I can speak myself and say I do not believe that a fetus becomes a baby/person until about 20-22 weeks gestation when it becomes viable and is able to survive outside of womb.
So to me abortion before 20-22 weeks gestation is not murder because there is no baby or child until viability.
 
Yup, it's an insult when you call yourself something. And Planned Parenthood's own numbers are truth if they come from their flier, but if I use those same numbers and perform a basic math problem, suddenly, the evil numbers are lying.
Your math was not basic math.
You have have include all 11 million services PP provides.
 
it was basic, basically dishonest :D

I noticed after the whole math thing was brought up, JayDubya ran out of here REAL quick.

No matter how you group abortions, no matter what catagory you put them in, it doesn't change the fact they are only 3% of what PP does.
 
I noticed after the whole math thing was brought up, JayDubya ran out of here REAL quick.

No matter how you group abortions, no matter what catagory you put them in, it doesn't change the fact they are only 3% of what PP does.

And it's 91% of how they deal with pregnancy.

Which amounts to over 25% of the abortions performed in the country each year.

My percentages are as valid as yours, PR parrot.
 
And it's 91% of how they deal with pregnancy.
Pregnancies are not all they do. As a whole, even with pregnancies, it is a smaller percentage than the whole.

And abortion still only accounts for 3% of all their services. 300,000 compared with 11,000,000. Sorry, you lose again.

Which amounts to over 25% of the abortions performed in the country each year.

My percentages are as valid as yours, PR parrot.

You have to compare ALL of their services, which you don't. You are cherry picking your values while I am showing as a whole abortions account for only a small percent of ALL they do total.

It's quite pathetic you don't realize that you lost, but hey everyone else can see. It's why noone else is supporting your idiotic claims.
 
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That "3%" (332,228 in 2011) represents over a quarter of all the abortions done in this country (~1.2 million per year), cementing them as the leading provider of abortion in the country.

So yeah. That defines what they do.

Duh?
ultimately, what is your point?

That if PP went out of business, abortions would drop by 25%?

Since they provide much more in pregnancy prevention, don't you think abortion rates would rise?
 
I noticed after the whole math thing was brought up, JayDubya ran out of here REAL quick.

No matter how you group abortions, no matter what category you put them in, it doesn't change the fact they are only 3% of what PP does.

Well the problem is you are looking for logic, rational and objective discussion where there is none. No matter how much BS and spin he lays down he knows for a fact that 3% will never define what they do, but if he admitted that, what would he have to be bias about and base his partisan rhetoric and hyperbole on. :)

He can twist and paint any picture he wants it will never work on objective honest posters, we just sit back and laugh.
 
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