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What Super Tuesday results means for the GOP - A strategy

danarhea

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Mitt Romney is claiming momentum for the Republican nomination, but clearly, the results from Super Tuesday show a lack of enthusiasm. Mitt barely won Ohio, and in Virginia, where Gingrich and Santorum were not even running, Ron Paul garnered 40% of the vote in a contest that Romney should have totally run away with.

The results from Super Tuesday clearly show that the Republican party is not going to capture the White House this year, and in the face of that, I have a suggestion to make..... Don't pour all your money into a race you can't win, but pour it into House and Senate races. By holding onto the House and capturing the Senate, you stop EVERYTHING that Obama might attempt, thus making him a lame duck at 12:01AM on the very day he is inaugurated.

Discussion?
 
danarhea said:
Mitt Romney is claiming momentum for the Republican nomination, but clearly, the results from Super Tuesday show a lack of enthusiasm. Mitt barely won Ohio, and in Virginia, where Gingrich and Santorum were not even running, Ron Paul garnered 40% of the vote in a contest that Romney should have totally run away with.

The results from Super Tuesday clearly show that the Republican party is not going to capture the White House this year, and in the face of that, I have a suggestion to make..... Don't pour all your money into a race you can't win, but pour it into House and Senate races. By holding onto the House and capturing the Senate, you stop EVERYTHING that Obama might attempt, thus making him a lame duck at 12:01AM on the very day he is inaugurated.

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This is one of the reasons politics disgusts me, especially partisan politics, the whole strategy thing seems like an attempt to circumvent the democratic process. But from my personal perspective the question should be "whats the right thing to do when in office" not "whats the best way to get into office." Of course I understand its impossible to not think about how to win an election, even if there were no political parties individuals running for office would have that question naturally pop into their head. But when you start listening to and reading political news and journalism all you see is talk about strategy for winning winning winning and to me I see the individual voter completely colored over.

Of course most individual voters are idiots about most issues anyway. I guess what I'd like to see then is strategy focused around things that will be done and how they will be done, and a partisan system where parties are true to their guns about the issues so the voters can better equate parties to political issues, rather than pandering to a certain crowd. Of course there's issues with that.

O well I've gone off topic, but ya I don't like politics or attempts to sway elections even if that swaying is just honest all American campaigning.
 
danarhea said:
Mitt Romney is claiming momentum for the Republican nomination, but clearly, the results from Super Tuesday show a lack of enthusiasm. Mitt barely won Ohio, and in Virginia, where Gingrich and Santorum were not even running, Ron Paul garnered 40% of the vote in a contest that Romney should have totally run away with.

The results from Super Tuesday clearly show that the Republican party is not going to capture the White House this year, and in the face of that, I have a suggestion to make..... Don't pour all your money into a race you can't win, but pour it into House and Senate races. By holding onto the House and capturing the Senate, you stop EVERYTHING that Obama might attempt, thus making him a lame duck at 12:01AM on the very day he is inaugurated.

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that's what rush is calling for!
 
danarhea said:
Oh damn, me agreeing with Rush Limbaugh? Hell just froze over. LOL.
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it's actually a good strategy. no shot at beating obama for the wh, so beat him in congress. although that might not be so easy either.
 
liblady said:
it's actually a good strategy. no shot at beating obama for the wh, so beat him in congress. although that might not be so easy either.
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The House is a lock, but the Senate will be tough, which is why the GOP should pour ALL of it's money into those races. That is their best shot.
 
danarhea said:
The House is a lock, but the Senate will be tough, which is why the GOP should pour ALL of it's money into those races. That is their best shot.
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Sadly you may be right.
 
I think it's way too soon to write the epitaph for the GOP's presidential election. Before the self-destructive primaries kicked into high gear Romney was running neck-and-neck with Obama. Once he secures the nomination I think it will tighten up again and his chances will rise and fall with the economy.
 
danarhea said:
Mitt Romney is claiming momentum for the Republican nomination, but clearly, the results from Super Tuesday show a lack of enthusiasm. Mitt barely won Ohio, and in Virginia, where Gingrich and Santorum were not even running, Ron Paul garnered 40% of the vote in a contest that Romney should have totally run away with.

The results from Super Tuesday clearly show that the Republican party is not going to capture the White House this year, and in the face of that, I have a suggestion to make..... Don't pour all your money into a race you can't win, but pour it into House and Senate races. By holding onto the House and capturing the Senate, you stop EVERYTHING that Obama might attempt, thus making him a lame duck at 12:01AM on the very day he is inaugurated.

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The markets and corporate America would love it. It'd be lame-duck Clinton all over again.
 
AdamT said:
I think it's way too soon to write the epitaph for the GOP's presidential election. Before the self-destructive primaries kicked into high gear Romney was running neck-and-neck with Obama. Once he secures the nomination I think it will tighten up again and his chances will rise and fall with the economy.
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And if he selects Rubio as a running mate, it could really change things as well. Not only does that appeal to Hispanic voters, Rubio is probably the golden child of the Republican party right now, along with Paul Ryan.

Romney needs to convince the GOP that he will take down Obamacare, demontrate his economic knowledge and experience, and pick the right running mate to make this close.
 
Thunder said:
but...but...I thought even a blind/deaf/mute could beat Obama?????
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It's damn hard to get people to vote against the welfare check provider.
 
danarhea said:
Mitt Romney is claiming momentum for the Republican nomination, but clearly, the results from Super Tuesday show a lack of enthusiasm. Mitt barely won Ohio, and in Virginia, where Gingrich and Santorum were not even running, Ron Paul garnered 40% of the vote in a contest that Romney should have totally run away with.

The results from Super Tuesday clearly show that the Republican party is not going to capture the White House this year, and in the face of that, I have a suggestion to make..... Don't pour all your money into a race you can't win, but pour it into House and Senate races. By holding onto the House and capturing the Senate, you stop EVERYTHING that Obama might attempt, thus making him a lame duck at 12:01AM on the very day he is inaugurated.

Discussion?
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The goal should not be to stop the Obama administration. This is pointless and does not further the Conservative cause. The goal should be to hold the House and Senate to FORCE Obama to give the Conservatives some of what they want in exchange for some of what he wants.
 
Thunder said:
the poverty rate was higher under Reagan, than it is today. I guess by your logic, Reagan was the Welfare-President?

;)
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What? I thought you guys keep telling us how the middle class is shrinking?
 
danarhea said:
The House is a lock, but the Senate will be tough, which is why the GOP should pour ALL of it's money into those races. That is their best shot.
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I and I suggest many republican's avoid buying the narrative that Obama is a lock. I ask one simple question. What exactly has Obama done to earn another term? What record does he have that makes him a lock? I see him locking up 33% of the vote nationally (however that too assumes that the minorities will come out as they did in 08). I see Romney, Santorum or whomeever locking up 33% of the vote (however that assumes that all republicans and conservatives will vote), and the rest is up for grabs IMO. Idependants more than any other group actually weigh the issues and the record of the candidates. There is that 15 - 20 % of the population that will vote on single issues, and or from drive by media snippets, so lets assume that the GOP and Dem's split that vote, we still have a significant number of American's that actually do vote that vote cautiously. We'll give them a pass for 08, as it was easy to see how the historic nature of that vote ushered Obama in, but everyone I talk to that is moderate, or independant are looking at all the issues, and Obama's record this time. My own personal scorecard (not scientific) is that Obama has lost these folks by a large margin.

Obama has, (and this is why he is doing what he's doing) one option, and that is to create ideological rifts between American's in a way the United States has never witnessed. No President in my lifetime has gone to such great lengths to marginalize large segments of the population that he is purported to represent as the President. THAT, my fellow DP's is the narrative that should be made center stage. Obama is trying (And may well succeed) in buying votes, and he's not even trying to hide it.


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danarhea said:
Mitt Romney is claiming momentum for the Republican nomination, but clearly, the results from Super Tuesday show a lack of enthusiasm. Mitt barely won Ohio, and in Virginia, where Gingrich and Santorum were not even running, Ron Paul garnered 40% of the vote in a contest that Romney should have totally run away with.

The results from Super Tuesday clearly show that the Republican party is not going to capture the White House this year, and in the face of that, I have a suggestion to make..... Don't pour all your money into a race you can't win, but pour it into House and Senate races. By holding onto the House and capturing the Senate, you stop EVERYTHING that Obama might attempt, thus making him a lame duck at 12:01AM on the very day he is inaugurated.

Discussion?
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You've been listening to Rush, haven't you? He keeps saying this.
 
danarhea said:
Mitt Romney is claiming momentum for the Republican nomination, but clearly, the results from Super Tuesday show a lack of enthusiasm. Mitt barely won Ohio, and in Virginia, where Gingrich and Santorum were not even running, Ron Paul garnered 40% of the vote in a contest that Romney should have totally run away with.

The results from Super Tuesday clearly show that the Republican party is not going to capture the White House this year, and in the face of that, I have a suggestion to make..... Don't pour all your money into a race you can't win, but pour it into House and Senate races. By holding onto the House and capturing the Senate, you stop EVERYTHING that Obama might attempt, thus making him a lame duck at 12:01AM on the very day he is inaugurated.

Discussion?
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Correct. It is House and Senate races that matter. Campaigning further and further to the right on social issues for evangelicals and far rightwingers has made winning the White House all but impossible.
 
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joko104 said:
Correct. It is House and Senate races that matter. Campaigning further and further to the right on social issues for evangelicals and far rightwingers has made winning the White House all but impossible.
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Where's this going on?
 
Erod said:
And if he selects Rubio as a running mate, it could really change things as well. Not only does that appeal to Hispanic voters, Rubio is probably the golden child of the Republican party right now, along with Paul Ryan.

Romney needs to convince the GOP that he will take down Obamacare, demontrate his economic knowledge and experience, and pick the right running mate to make this close.
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Perhaps, but Rubio is extremely untested. Believe me, he's got a few skeletons in his closet that would come out. And Mexican-Americans won't necessarily fall over for a Cuban American.
 
I wouldn't say that the Republicans cannot beat Obama, especially considering that the generic congressional ticket is completely tied with both sides at 44.2% RealClearPolitics - Election Other - Generic Congressional Vote

People said Santorum had no shot at getting the GOP primary, and he has risen in the nominee polls. I wouldn't call the election for Obama. Currently in the polls for the general presidential election, Obama is only up by 1.2%. Rasmussen has the Republicans up by 5% and Pew has them completely tied.
 
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Erod said:
And if he selects Rubio as a running mate, it could really change things as well. Not only does that appeal to Hispanic voters, Rubio is probably the golden child of the Republican party right now, along with Paul Ryan.

Romney needs to convince the GOP that he will take down Obamacare, demontrate his economic knowledge and experience, and pick the right running mate to make this close.
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No. Romney needs to do the one thing that would require a miracle of epic proportions..... Convince CONSERVATIVES that he isn't the gutless, disgusting, spineless LIBERAL that he is and has always been. Oh, he'll pick up a bunch of the slightly conservative Republicans if he chooses some loud-mouth quasi-Conservative like Rubio or Bachman, but most of the REAL Conservatives are not going to vote for a Vice-Presidential candidate. Most of us are just going to stay home.
 
Tigger said:
No. Romney needs to do the one thing that would require a miracle of epic proportions..... Convince CONSERVATIVES that he isn't the gutless, disgusting, spineless LIBERAL that he is and has always been. Oh, he'll pick up a bunch of the slightly conservative Republicans if he chooses some loud-mouth quasi-Conservative like Rubio or Bachman, but most of the REAL Conservatives are not going to vote for a Vice-Presidential candidate. Most of us are just going to stay home.
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We need a moderate/centrist. A hyper-conservative or hyper-liberal president will only hurt the nation and halt recovery.
 
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