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After Tuesday Nights' Wins, Santorums Poll Numbers Double

well thus far where Romney has won he has done so by making the rubble bounce in expensive ad campaigns. we will see if that tactic continues to work for him. though with Santorum he might find it works not quite so well as with Newt; who was happy to provide the ammo for Romney to shoot at him.
 
same, general, three legged stool it has since the late 50's.
 
nota bene said:
"Bigot" is a reckless term to use.

Santorum may not win the nomination--who will is anybody's guess right now--but much of what he has to say resonates with me, and I am an independent.

I think often about how Obama and the GOP candidates are proxies for the real battle which is, I think, being fought among Americans to direct our nation's path. We are deeply divided, and those on both sides of many of the major issues are passionately convinced that they are right.
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He is a bigot. There is a reason I and many others ranked him as the dead last candidate I would support for President. This guy is a bigot, especially towards homosexuality. He compared homosexuality with bestiality and polygamy. On another issues, he is a big lobbier and is extremly annoying. Just listen to him.

Santorum would be like the worst choice ever for me. As I am neither for big government, USA as a global police or theocratic policies. Still, I think he is a better choice than Romney for nomination, because he does not represent the 1% like Romney does. And I can at least trust that he says what he believes.

Fletch said:
I am not a particularly big fan of any of the republican candidates, but Santorum just might have the best chance of winning. I think the Obama people are salivating over the prospects of facing Romney, because he is everything they want to run against, and he was the inspiration for Obamas biggest liability--Obamneycare. Santorum just might be able to run as Joe Lunchpail or David to the Obama Goliath and pull it out. I still give Obama the edge, but you never know.
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I believe their chances are approximately the same. Santorum has many negatives as well.

They are both going to lose by a landslide.
 
TheDemSocialist said:
I love to see the Republican party so divided... Its awesome!
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Yeah, because four years ago when Hillary was up against Obama the Dems weren't devided or nasty ;)
 
digsbe said:
Yeah, because four years ago when Hillary was up against Obama the Dems weren't devided or nasty ;)
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From what I know, during the 2008 primary Democrats had 2 pretty good candidates and they disagreed which one they should pick. Of course, it can get somewhat dirty but that is just politics. We can see evidence from this in the results, twice as many Democrats voted in 2008 than Republicans in 2012.

However, in the Republican lair there are four factions, there are the fiscal conservatives who cares about integrity and deficit reduction, there are establishment conservatives, there are the family oriented social conservatives who may or may not be economically conservative. There are also libertarians. Only establishment conservatives like Romney. Social conservatives who will probably find santorum a good match, libertarians like Ron Paul, and the fiscal conservatives are not interested in any of them.

The field is divided, and all of the options are absolutely terrible. Maybe the establishment Republicans may realize that they need to give the GOP a better option. They were greedy and went for a candidate who would give them all they want. A candidate who are not a social conservative, not a fiscal conservative, loves the military, loved by Wall Street as he was an investor, and easy to work with since he has no principles. Not only did they ignore the main parts of the GOP, but to win they used the most dirtiest tricks in the check book to eliminate opponents. That certainly backfired.
 
radcen said:
I'm starting to wonder if the word "conservative" really means anything anymore. (Politically speaking, I mean)
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Sure it does. Problem in modern politics, particularly with a pretty biased media, any candidate that espouses these views are vilified as wanting starve grandma, being racist, etc, etc. Perfect example is Romney's comments about the "poor" and Gingrich's comments about food stamps. There was nothing evil or nefarious about either of the comments yet its painted that way.

In addition, the two main factions of the GOP are pretty divided. Its inherently difficult if not impossible to be a true social conservative and small government conservative.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Ron Paul is, yet no one seems to take him seriously.
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Perhaps because Ron Paul himself does not take his campaign for the GOP nomination seriously. Its very very hard to do that when the candidate himself is involved in a shell game and is fooling very few but the True Believers.
 
Dittohead not! said:
Ron Paul is, yet no one seems to take him seriously.
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For the most part, he is an earmark hound. No one takes him seriously because his foreign policy approach is over a 100 years old. Mind you, I'm not a fan of being overly hawkish either but there is a balance. Frankly on this issue, regardless of who the GOP nominates, the foreign policy debate would be uneventful as Obama has adopted some hawkish approaches. Find it interesting that there hasn't been any large scale anti-war protests going in DC in the last few years.
 
Redress said:
I would recommend against getting too confident. I remember this board in 2009 when we discussed how it looked like the end of the republican party. Things change, and sometimes scarey fast.
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Excellent advice. How many politicians thought they had it in the bag. One of the things that keeps my faith is that the voting public is so fickle and are more now than ever demanding results. There is a laundry list of candidates and elected officials who have lost due to that over confidence. Bush Sr. Al Gore, Hilary Clinton, GW Bush with his second term. The GOP in 06, the dems in 2010.... There are so many others.
 
While I am not yet firmly behind Santorum, I am happy nonetheless that this will be no cakewalk for Romney and that the establishment is now learning that they cannot take advantage of the conservative base expecting them to roll over and play dead so they can keep the status quo of liberal leaning corporatism and big government.
 
Everyone thinks it Romney and Santorum keeps winning. I think all Moderates and Conservatives should rally behind him.
 
Navy Pride said:
Everyone thinks it Romney and Santorum keeps winning. I think all Moderates and Conservatives should rally behind him.
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Sadly, there are at least two who feel very very differently. One is Newt Gingrich and the other is Ron Paul.
 
radcen said:
I'm starting to wonder if the word "conservative" really means anything anymore. (Politically speaking, I mean)
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It's still around, I can even use it in a sentence:

Derek said "I used to think most Republicans were conservative, but this year they are nominating a liberal named Mitt Romney."
 
Navy Pride said:
Everyone thinks it Romney and Santorum keeps winning. I think all Moderates and Conservatives should rally behind him.
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Why, the contest isn't over yet? Obviously you'd dismiss someone who said everyone should rally behind Romney after FL....right?

Frankly, Santorum is good red meat for social conservative. He decent on taxes and below average on budgetary issues. He is hideous on being big government when the issues fall in the social conservatism (remember the Terri Schiavo issue where he supported the federal government intervening in a private family matter, supports a Constitutional Amendment on marriage) and is tremendously weak on standing up to big labor. Lets not forget that endorsement of that stalwart of a conervative Arlen Specter.

At the end, Santorum or Romney would still be huge leaps and bounds of an improvement over the current WH occupant.
 
Navy Pride said:
Everyone thinks it Romney and Santorum keeps winning. I think all Moderates and Conservatives should rally behind him.
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Why would moderates rally behind Santorum? He is very much not moderate.
 
Good for Santorum. He's more socially-conservative.
 
This is interesting: Intrade has Romney under 70 % to get the nomination. Obama however is at 59 % to win in November, which is well up from where he was.
 
What would be hilarious would be to see Santorum riding high on this wave, imply that Gingrich should drop out of the race so that he doesn't spoil his chances to consolidate the social conservatives and defeat Romney. Just like Gingrich did to Santorum when he won South Carolina.
 
poweRob said:
What would be hilarious would be to see Santorum riding high on this wave, imply that Gingrich should drop out of the race so that he doesn't spoil his chances to consolidate the social conservatives and defeat Romney. Just like Gingrich did to Santorum when he won South Carolina.
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I think he has to make a joke along those lines. Don't make it serious, but make the joke. Gingrich is pretty much sunk at this point, at least until the next big shock that seems to come along every week during this primary season.
 
Your Star said:
A Santorum nomination means 4 more years for Obama.
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A Santorum nomination means a landslide re-election for Obama.

Nixon's corpse has a better chance of beating Obama than Santorum.
 
Santorum is just the latest in a long line of 'Great White Hopes'. He'll be about as successful as his predecessors - let's see Palin, Bachmann, Cain, Gingrich, Romney, Gingrich again. I've probably missed one or two. All the new wave, destined to drowned Obama. Lots of luck with that.
 
Wake said:
Good for Santorum. He's more socially-conservative.
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Couldn't agree more. Let's hope the Republicans nominate the most socially conservative candidate they can find. It plays so well throughout the country. And if you could actually nominate a guy that was so right wing he could only get 40% of the vote in his own state when he ran for re-election because the voters thought he was a right wing nut, so much the better.
 
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