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Who won the CNN GOP Debate tonight? Thursday, Jan. 26th

Who won?

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haymarket said:
Barack Obama is the clear winner.
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Obama was in the Republican debate? Whatever drugs you were taking at the time, please share. They must be pretty damn good. :mrgreen:
 
hazlnut said:
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Wolf Blitzer won the debate.

Wolf Blitzer asked a perfectly reasonable question. And when Newt tossed the audience a trained seals a fish ('MSM is liberal' nudge-nudge, wink-wink) they clapped, but Blitzer didn't back down and basically said look, fat man, you run your mouth attacking Romney with b.s., you're going to half to explain yourself.
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Media sponsored/handled debates are ridiculous. If they only asked those types of questions -- of each and every participant, by the way, because they're all guilty of bashing their opponents, the American people wouldn't ever get to hear candidates' positions on the real issues we care about. And, by the way, it is not a moderator's job to determine "what's B.S." They are supposed to be facilitators.
 
Psychoclown said:
I hate to say it because I truly loathe the man, but Santorum had the best overall performance. When he asked if they could stop talking about the petty personal stuff and get back to the issues, it was a great moment for him. And he hammered Romney on Romneycare. Fortunately, Santorum is Santorum and I don't think even this strong performance will help him much. I hope not.

Romney was pretty effective. And with Gingrich's poor performance, he probably helped himself.

Edit: I clicked Romney in the poll by mistake. Meant to hit *shudder* Santorum.
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ehh, Sant just rode off Paul previous answer.



Anyway. I think Sant & Paul did better then Mitt & Newt. Sant brought NewtRomney down to Earth, Paul stuck to the issues and was funny. I think everyone is getting tired of NewtRomney tbh.

In order Sant/Paul, Romney, Newt.
 
danarhea said:
Obama was in the Republican debate? Whatever drugs you were taking at the time, please share. They must be pretty damn good. :mrgreen:
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Its simple. Obama has been the ghost figure on the stage in every Republican debate. That is unavoidable. As the Republicans turn on themselves in public acts of cannibalism, they repeatedly violate Reagan's 11th commandment.

The winner from all this fratricide is Obama.
 
haymarket said:
Its simple. Obama has been the ghost figure on the stage in every Republican debate. That is unavoidable. As the Republicans turn on themselves in public acts of cannibalism, they repeatedly violate Reagan's 11th commandment.

The winner from all this fratricide is Obama.
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I would be interested if you could prove that the Republican debates have been boosting Obama's poll number. Otherwise this is just an opinion. I don't necessarily agree either which way, I am just interested in what the numbers actually are.
 
DarkWizard12 said:
The debate was botched by Blitzer. I'm pretty sure It's not going to affect much. Paul helped himself the most. Gingrich came in second, and Romney and Santorum sharing 3rd.
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actually, gingrich was annihilated
everyone else helped themselves
santorum was effective in exposing romneycare as romney's achilles heel in the national election
 
Chaddelamancha said:
I would be interested if you could prove that the Republican debates have been boosting Obama's poll number. Otherwise this is just an opinion. I don't necessarily agree either which way, I am just interested in what the numbers actually are.
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Funny you should ask since I woke up to this on the front page this morning

Obama leads 2 GOP contenders in state as better economy helps cut Romney's lead | Detroit Free Press | freep.com

Obama making a big comeback here in the important state of Michigan.
 
I do not think there was a clear winner. They each had shining moments ... and revealed there is no phenomenal conservative candidate.

Paul is probably the most genuine and honest yet I would never vote for him based on two of his issue stances.

Romney ... he runs on his expertise on the economy which imho is a false premise (yet on most issues he is quite moderate). He landed a good punch at Gingrich on the PAC where instead of denying the ad he simply turned and said "did you say it?'

Gingrich needed a clear win and he did not pull it off (imho) although he made no enormous mistakes. I could be wrong ... if he would win Florida than anything could happen.

Santorum ... he is the least qualified of the four and comes off as angry and running on emotional and social issues. he might appeal to an uneducated bible belt demographic yet the GOP knows he would lose the election.

I predict Romney will win the nomination ... the pressing question is ...will Paul run a third party campaign?

If Romney takes the nomination I predict he will lose to Obama. That might not be so bad for the GOP ... Obama has earned a second term and the GOP will have a chance to vet and run an intelligent candidate who is worthy in 2016 as opposed to being stuck with a so so candidate they do not really support.

Think ... Obama 2012 than Huntsman 2016.

It would be really awesome if eventually independents could get a viable candidate and move us away from the entrenched two party system.
 
Well with the re-implosion of Gingrich I guess it's back to Ole Unlikeable Default Mitt Romney for the Republicans then. lol.
 
Dion said:
I do not think there was a clear winner. They each had shining moments ... and revealed there is no phenomenal conservative candidate.
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what was newt's shining moment?

Paul is probably the most genuine and honest yet I would never vote for him based on two of his issue stances.
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curious. what two Ron Paul positions cause you to be unable to support him? (i thought his unemotional, almost indifferent description why his wife would be an excellent first lady revealed a personal weakness on his part)

Romney ... he runs on his expertise on the economy which imho is a false premise (yet on most issues he is quite moderate). He landed a good punch at Gingrich on the PAC where instead of denying the ad he simply turned and said "did you say it?'
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didn't romney insist he was not behind an attack ad in which the ad shows romney asserting that ad was placed with his approval?

Gingrich needed a clear win and he did not pull it off (imho) although he made no enormous mistakes. I could be wrong ... if he would win Florida than anything could happen.
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gingrich was the only weak performer in that debate in my never humble opinion. when he again tried to play victim to the media/cnn moderator, he was shut down. as was he when he attacked romney. worst performance for newt thus far ... he who wants the moon to be out 51st state. that throw off comment should give any rational voter pause

Santorum ... he is the least qualified of the four and comes off as angry and running on emotional and social issues. he might appeal to an uneducated bible belt demographic yet the GOP knows he would lose the election.
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can't stand the guy or his political positions, but where you saw anger i saw someone convincingly destroy romney's ability to contest Obama in the fall, when santorum pointed out the close similarities - especially the mandate - between romneycare and Obamacare
he seemed most sincere when he spoke about why his spouse would make an excellent first lady
i did not see the anger that turned you off

I predict Romney will win the nomination ... the pressing question is ...will Paul run a third party campaign?
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would those libertarians who support Ron Paul likely vote instead for Obama or romney ... to me, it will be a wash

If Romney takes the nomination I predict he will lose to Obama.
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only if there is videotape of Obama smoking crack while engaging in "indecent" homosexual acts could he possibly lose this election


That might not be so bad for the GOP ...
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why would the gop losing be good for that party?

Obama has earned a second term
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excuse me; what has Obama done which makes him worthy of a second term?

and the GOP will have a chance to vet and run an intelligent candidate who is worthy in 2016 as opposed to being stuck with a so so candidate they do not really support.

Think ... Obama 2012 than Huntsman 2016.
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here is the primary reason for my response
you got it wrong ... Elizabeth Warren will be elected president in 2016


It would be really awesome if eventually independents could get a viable candidate and move us away from the entrenched two party system.
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could not agree with you more. there is a certain need for a viable third political party in the USA
 
If you could get the 30 and under crowd to really rally behind Ron Paul and actually show up and vote, it would be a different GOP right now. There are a ton of viral Ron Paul campaigns, almost every quick poll that I have come across show a strong Paul support. Even looking at the exit polls, in Iowa he dominated the independent vote. I thought he had a great debate, he stated his stance clearly and was even joking around. I would like to hear more about how he plans on cutting 1 trillion from the budget the first year. We all know he wants to eliminate spending on troops overseas, but that can't be all. If he leaned a little more on how he will fix the government and less on how the government is taking our civil liberities, he would be doing better in the polling. But then he wouldn't be Ron Paul.

And I have to say, Santorum, whether I agree with him or not, he really believes in what he says and you have to respect that in a candidate.
 
justabubba said:
.......santorum was effective in exposing romneycare as romney's achilles heel......
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That's not Romney's only achilles heel.

Romney raised taxes while he was governor of Massachusetts.

Bain Capital will also be an issue that could cost him dearly.
 
Santorum on substance. Romney on politics. Josie on that new avatar.
 
cpwill said:
Santorum on substance.
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I must say whether I agree with him or not I found Santorum very strong that night.

I particularly liked when he broke away from Wolf Blitzers relentless pursuit of fireworks between Newt and Romney before the first break.
 
Jetboogieman said:
I must say whether I agree with him or not I found Santorum very strong that night.

I particularly liked when he broke away from Wolf Blitzers relentless pursuit of fireworks between Newt and Romney before the first break.
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that was well played. He was able to capture the "early Newt" role in the debates of appearing to emphasize substance, while still making Newt look less-than-desirable on the particulars. Sweet Spot Right In The Middle, there.
 
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