Carville to GOP: You have a disaster on your hands

Wiggen said:

Examples? How about the entire Conservative movement? You've got one candidate for President who thinks the wrong side won the Civil War and that the 1964 Civil Rights Act was a terrible piece of legislation. You've got your shock troops - the so called Tea Pary movement - that only exists because we elected a black President.

Just the KKK with a modern face.

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Thanks for answering my questions...you chose option number two.

Wiggen said:

Examples? How about the entire Conservative movement? You've got one candidate for President who thinks the wrong side won the Civil War and that the 1964 Civil Rights Act was a terrible piece of legislation. You've got your shock troops - the so called Tea Pary movement - that only exists because we elected a black President.

Just the KKK with a modern face.

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Good God, LOL. You've taken the Democratic cheese hook, line, and sinker, haven't you? LOL

I'm guessing your black, and the vast majortiy of issues within your community are entirely self-inflicted. Get over it. And no, those many black people out there that actually do thrive are not Uncle Tom sell-outs. They're just kicking your ass at everything they do.

It might help you feel better about yourself, but no, white people don't have secret meetings designed to keep you down. You're managing that quite on your own.

Wiggen said:

Examples? How about the entire Conservative movement? You've got one candidate for President who thinks the wrong side won the Civil War and that the 1964 Civil Rights Act was a terrible piece of legislation. You've got your shock troops - the so called Tea Pary movement - that only exists because we elected a black President.

Just the KKK with a modern face.

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Dissatisfaction with Obama. Yep, white people hate him. However, it took a MAJORITY of white people to elect him, so big ****ing deal.

Wiggen said:

Examples? How about the entire Conservative movement? You've got one candidate for President who thinks the wrong side won the Civil War and that the 1964 Civil Rights Act was a terrible piece of legislation. You've got your shock troops - the so called Tea Pary movement - that only exists because we elected a black President.

Just the KKK with a modern face.

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So many logical fallacies in this post that the Obama administration would like to hire you as a speech writer.

Oh look shock troops---where is that civility? The tea party exists due to ever expanding government, they actually began by protesting things Bush was doing. Contact Hollywood for a rewrite did you?

Care to place some quotes on the Civil War and Civil Rights Act legislation? Id love to see how out of context they are.

ric27 said:

When people aren't smart enough to run their own lives, so for their own good, the elite, the thinkers, need to make more and more rules to control behavior....thats a liberal, dude

You can label it however you want, but the left wants more control, less freedom. On the other hand... conservatism seeks to increase individual freedom and limit control and interference by the state.

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You mean by telling women what to do with their bodies and telling Muslims that they can't build places of worship, and telling gay people that they can't get married.

That kind of freedom?

teamosil said:

No, liberal means placing more priority on individual liberty and being more accepting of economic intervention by government. Conservative means placing more priority on economic liberty and being more accepting of government intervention in people's personal lives.

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Today, it means buying into the myth that everyone except themselves uses "government services".

It means supporting companies that take jobs overseas and get tax breaks for doing it. It means driving down wages for working people so CEO's can get bigger bonuses. It means supporting loopholes that allow giant multinationals don't have to pay taxes while small businesses do, thus allowing giant corporations to have an unfair advantage in the business world and drive their competition out.

And it means telling women what to do with their bodies, telling gays that their second-class citizens unworthy of marriage, and telling people that they can't smoke pot at home, and telling Muslims that they can't build places of worship, and suspecting anyone of brown skin of being illegal and making them show their papers.

But as long as Exxon doesn't have to pay taxes and Google can pretend that all of it's profits were made in Ireland and Bermuda, then America is a land of liberty and freedom.

Wiggen said:

Examples? How about the entire Conservative movement? You've got one candidate for President who thinks the wrong side won the Civil War and that the 1964 Civil Rights Act was a terrible piece of legislation. You've got your shock troops - the so called Tea Pary movement - that only exists because we elected a black President.

Just the KKK with a modern face.

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During the time that the KKK actually had any relevance to anything, which of the two major parties was most closely aligned with it?

Hint: The last KKK member to hold a federal elected position was Senator Robert Byrd. With which party was he affiliated.

Bob Blaylock said:

During the time that the KKK actually had any relevance to anything, which of the two major parties was most closely aligned with it?

Hint: The last KKK member to hold a federal elected position was Senator Robert Byrd. With which party was he affiliated.

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And then all of those old Racist Democrats of the South switched to the Republican party, which is why the South is largely Republican today (though less racist in most parts of it...at least to a degree).

Bob Blaylock said:

During the time that the KKK actually had any relevance to anything, which of the two major parties was most closely aligned with it?

Hint: The last KKK member to hold a federal elected position was Senator Robert Byrd. With which party was he affiliated.

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Everyone knows who the racists are, and which party they infect. It would be better for the right to simply ignore the obvious rather than try to argue that it doesn't exist... especially since Newt is planning on winning a nomination, and quite possibly an election, based upon it.

Karl said:

Everyone knows who the racists are, and which party they infect. It would be better for the right to simply ignore the obvious rather than try to argue that it doesn't exist... especially since Newt is planning on winning a nomination, and quite possibly an election, based upon it.

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Whenever anyone says "everyone knows"...that person is most assuredly engaging in wishful thinking.

ric27 said:

When people aren't smart enough to run their own lives, so for their own good, the elite, the thinkers, need to make more and more rules to control behavior....thats a liberal, dude

You can label it however you want, but the left wants more control, less freedom. On the other hand... conservatism seeks to increase individual freedom and limit control and interference by the state.

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Sure they do, unless you're gay or want an abortion.

ksu_aviator said:

LOL...Joe Scarborough and Mike Murphy...there's two died in the wool conservatives for ya. They both happen to be on MSNBC...go figure.

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Which does not at all change the political record and history of both men.

Bob Blaylock said:

During the time that the KKK actually had any relevance to anything, which of the two major parties was most closely aligned with it?

Hint: The last KKK member to hold a federal elected position was Senator Robert Byrd. With which party was he affiliated.

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There's either:




... with regards to the party switching going on behind the civil rights movement and why.