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Santorum vs. Obama

If the Election were today, who would you vote for?

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Boo Radley said:
Nor could I. Not that I'm a likely republican voter to begin with. I could consider Paul, Romney or Huntsman. Not a likely voter, but they are better than a fork in the face. The rest of the field is a waste.
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And the infamous Undisclosed here wonder why they could vote for Santorum over Obama when you have liberals saying they could consider Paul, Romney, or Huntsman. LOL! What a joke!
 
With the record Obama has, Bill the Cat ought to beat him. Go Meadow Party! LOL!
 
LesGovt said:
Please forgive me for my somewhat less than respectful response, but you don't get to decide such things and Republicans don't really give a rats patootie about what you think. The American voters get to decide and they have yet to cast one ballot. It's amazing how all of you Undisclosed people know more about what Republicans should do than Republicans.
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It has nothing to do with what Republicans think. Registered Republicans make up about 27% of the voting public. If they all voted for Santorum... who cares? The Republican candidate will not win because of what Republican voters think. He will win because of what everyone else thinks. And Santorum is too extreme for the other 73% of the population. So, give Santorum the nomination. And prepare for 4 more years of Obama.
 
If people start paying attention to Santorum he will flame out faster than the other notRomneys.
 
CaptainCourtesy said:
It has nothing to do with what Republicans think. Registered Republicans make up about 27% of the voting public. If they all voted for Santorum... who cares? The Republican candidate will not win because of what Republican voters think. He will win because of what everyone else thinks. And Santorum is too extreme for the other 73% of the population. So, give Santorum the nomination. And prepare for 4 more years of Obama.
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As I said the "American voters get to decide." I think that is a much clearer than your "He will win because of what everyone else thinks." If a person thinks and doesn't vote in the general election, he has no impact on the vote. On the other hand, it does matter what Republicans think as the Republican candidate has to win the Republican primaries. Got it? And we still do not give a rat's patootie for what you think. You are irrelevant.
 
AdamT said:
If people start paying attention to Santorum he will flame out faster than the other notRomneys.
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Ah, another Undisclosed provides us with his infinite wisdom. Let's let the voters decide the election. I bet they will know far more than you do about the actual result.
 
LesGovt said:
As I said the "American voters get to decide." I think that is a much clearer than your "He will win because of what everyone else thinks." If a person thinks and doesn't vote in the general election, he has no impact on the vote. On the other hand, it does matter what Republicans think as the Republican candidate has to win the Republican primaries. Got it? And we still do not give a rat's patootie for what you think. You are irrelevant.
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You're right about the comment, "the American voters get to decide". That's pretty much what I said. And I showed how any Republican candidate has to figure out out to get some of the 73% of Americans who are NOT Republicans to vote for him. That is why I am not irrelevant, AND why, once the Republican candidate is chosen, registered Republicans ARE irrelevant. So, choose who you want... but remember... you cannot win a national election with 27% of the vote.
 
Obama signed the exec order to close Gitmo on 1/22/09...congress refused/refuses to fund it...

Obama signs order to close Gitmo

Today when the President signed H.R. 2055, the “Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2012″ into law, he issued another signing statement in his battle with congress over the closure of Gitmo. Ever since Obama issued an executive order to close Gitmo, Congress has been running end games around funding the closure and transfer of detainees. This year was no different.

Obama takes on Congress' refusal to close Gitmo
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Primaries...in some states, those registered "unaffiliated", such as me, can choose which primary we vote in. I could vote in the R primary, then vote for Obama in the general. For that matter, an R can vote for Obama, and I know quite a few who will do just that. No one is "irrelevant" as long as they vote.
 
LesGovt said:
Then, be my guest and change the word to something you find more agreeable. If you don't understand the point, that is not my problem.
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Ug why do you support the guy when you don't know diddly squat about the guy?

here is one of his positions:

Repeal and Replace ObamaCare with
PATIENT-CENTERED HEALTHCARE
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  • Every American should have access to high-quality, affordable health care, with health care decisions made by patients and their physicians, NOT government bureaucrats

  • America needs targeted, market-driven, patient-centered solutions to address the costs and underlying causes of being uninsured rather than a one-size fits-all, government-run health care system
THE SANTORUM HEALTH CARE SOLUTION​
  • Priority number 1 = repeal ObamaCare and its burdensome job-destroying bureaucracy, taxes, mandates, and heavy-handed government decision-making… and replace it with market-driven, patient-centered alternatives to increasing health care access and affordability
    • President Obama promised that ObamaCare would decrease health care costs – but in a cruel bait-and-switch, the law significantly increases costs and mandates that working Americans foot the bill through unprecedented mandates, taxes and fees
    • Especially cruel are ObamaCare’s multiple incentives for employers to discontinue offering health care coverage to their employees – leaving patients uninsured and required to purchase health insurance the government chooses or pay stiff penalties
  • Strengthen patient-driven health coverage options such as Health Savings Accounts coupled with high deductible insurance plans (and repeal ObamaCare policies that gut such options)
  • Reduce costs through competition, increased transparency, electronic records, and health care literacy – empowering patients and their doctors with information and options
  • Allow patients to purchase health insurance across state lines to gain access to the best insurance coverage to fit their individual needs – patients shouldn’t be required to pay for (and subsidize for others) coverage for services they don’t want or need
  • Allow those who purchase their own health care coverage to do so with pre-tax dollars, including a refundable tax-credit for the purchase of health coverage (so that employees are not tied to jobs solely for health coverage, but have portability of affordable coverage)
  • Enact meaningful medical liability reform – to increase access, and reduce added costs and inefficiencies from defensive medicine for federal programs and incentivize state liability reforms
  • Block-grant Medicaid so that states aren’t burdened by unfunded, crippling, one-size-fits-all federal mandates, so that states can implement solutions to address their unique health care needs
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My position is a bit different seeing that in any risk pool the healthy are going to pay for sick. And I think the capital gains are a good thing through that system.
 
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The problem with your poll is that you are assuming that everybody is going to vote for either the Republiscum or the Demoscum. I wouldn't vote for either. Again, I will be voting third party, so answering your poll is meaningless for me.
 
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I don't know how someone who labels themselves as "very conservative" supports more war and nation building. Then again, Obama doesn't offer too much of a difference, but that is hardly the OP's contention.

However, that is conservatism for you - spreading a global empire in the name of patriotism, while eroding freedoms at home; both civil and monetary. Then again, most conservatives are neocons.
 
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Zyphlin said:
The constitution prohibits all guns, so stopping a state from banning guns isn't unconstitutional but rather enforcing the constitution

The constitution says jack and **** about marriage, so attempting to stop a state from doing so at a presidential level saying "**** the 10th amendment" isn't exactly comparable.
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Santorum said he favored a Constitutional Amendment defining marriage. Explicitly that involves following the Constitution.
 
The same things they said about Reagan; are being said about Santorum; "Ah! he is way too extreme, he'll never get the middle!" Oh really? And McCain was wonderfull, right? No! he was a moderate like Romney, and Huntsman, and that is what loses!
 
Huntsman a moderate? Surely you jest, señor. The man's conservative through and through.
 
Viktyr Korimir said:
Huntsman a moderate? Surely you jest, señor. The man's conservative through and through.
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Not fully! BTW, if you like Conservatives, why don't you go for the best, i.e Bachmann or Santorum. :)
 
Amigo said:
Not fully! BTW, if you like Conservatives, why don't you go for the best, i.e Bachmann or Santorum. :)
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Tell me what is not Conservative about Huntsman.
 
LesGovt said:
And the infamous Undisclosed here wonder why they could vote for Santorum over Obama when you have liberals saying they could consider Paul, Romney, or Huntsman. LOL! What a joke!
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Santorum, like Bachman, is more nutter and extreme to have a vote. Few people are actually all liberal or all conservative. I merely spoke for myself and what I could live with. It would be extremely disappointed in America if they ever elected someone like Santorum or backman, or Perry for that matter.
 
LesGovt said:
Hello Pot. Didn't you just provide us with an annoying and condescending opinion of someone else's political views?
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No. I called his comments precisely what they are, BS.

I have never claimed I love America more than those with whom I disagree or am "more American", or the infamous Palineqsue "Real American" etc. For some reason, some righties (I haven't seen a lefty do this, but if and when one does, I will say exactly the same thing) seem to think they are more American or love America more than those on the left. Ala Michelle "There should be a Congressional Investigation" Bachmann.

So to those who think their political views are more American than those with whom you disagree...y'all can KMA.
 
Top Cat said:
No. I called his comments precisely what they are, BS.

I have never claimed I love America more than those with whom I disagree or am "more American", or the infamous Palineqsue "Real American" etc. For some reason, some righties (I haven't seen a lefty do this, but if and when one does, I will say exactly the same thing) seem to think they are more American or love America more than those on the left. Ala Michelle "There should be a Congressional Investigation" Bachmann.

So to those who think their political views are more American than those with whom you disagree...y'all can KMA.
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Why would anyone be foolish enough to kiss that stinky thing? Obama is the one who is out of the mainstream. He is the one who is looney. He is the extreme leftwing ideologue. He is the one who needs to be defeated. Most Republicans would support Santorum over Obama and we would expect liberals to be liberal.
 
disneydude said:
Just Google Santorum and you'll see.
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Ah, another liberal who has advice for Republicans. Pshaw! What wrong with Obama? Hell, you don't even need to Google. Common sense tell you the answer to that question.
 
Boo Radley said:
It is, however, true none the less. :coffeepap
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Yadda, yadda, yadda. Obama is an extreme leftwing ideologue. The worst Republican candidate is far superior to him.
 
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